Senior C# Software Developer - CPT

WayneWilson

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Our client is looking for a Senior C# Software Developer to join their ranks.

A bit about the company
Provides software development and consulting services in the United Kingdom and South Africa, offering their clients a platform of professional and affordable expertise.They have key experience developing workflow and collaborative solutions in a range of industries from Retail Marketing, Packaging and Print to Construction Management and Manufacturing. They are growing their development team in Cape Town offering competitive resources for both their local and international clients.

Why you would want to work here
Great company culture and atmosphere.
Everyone gets along extremely well, the Bossman is super easy to work for, not strict and really takes a personal interest in your career development and makes sure you will never be bored.
Working hours are Monday to Friday 08h30 to 17h00
Free coffee and snacks are always available and parking right in front of the office
Situated in Goodwood

Requirements:
Degree qualification (4-year honours preferable) in Computer Science with at least 2-3 year’s work experience within a senior level(or software engineering diploma with more work experience)
Solid experience with front-end UI development in ASP.Net C#, jQuery, CSS, HTML5, AJAX and other latest web technologies (MVC, Angular and/or mobile development all BIG advantages).
Experience with SQL Server a plus.


Salary Range R40k - R55K per month

If this sounds like your IDEAL position then forward your CV on to wayne@idealstaffing.co.za today for consideration.
 
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WayneWilson

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I know I’m going to questions relating to salary so please PM me for info regarding this as our client would like to keep it confidential:)
 

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Keeping salary confidential? Really? What could the reason possibly be? To try gauge what you currently earn so they can do the current + R2k deal again? Already seems like a dishonest company.

Central location might be great for the business in that they can get chancers from all sides of the city but for most a central location means being stuck on the highway for 2 hours each way.

"...what more could you want" - where would you like me to start?
 

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Seems the company is too embarrassed to post a salary which will give them a bad name.
 

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Reasons why salaries will not be shared is due to current employees who have access to all advertising and social media platforms and are on different salary bands.Salaries in the work place are kept confidential. Always remember that Recruiters will not try and get you the bare minimum, the higher the salary the better off we are. So make sure you get a recruiter that is trying to please you as the candidate and not always the client.
 

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Your thoughts Sonic?

Sounds like a nice job, but then again... salary is that hot potato...

Reasons why salaries will not be shared is due to current employees who have access to all advertising and social media platforms and are on different salary bands.Salaries in the work place are kept confidential. Always remember that Recruiters will not try and get you the bare minimum, the higher the salary the better off we are. So make sure you get a recruiter that is trying to please you as the candidate and not always the client.

This always makes me laugh. I know how recruitment works... so I will give it to you.
You are what we call in Afrikaans "kommissie kabouters"
Most of you don't give a toss, all you care about is making monthly targets.

The company has told you what they want to pay and finished. There is no room for negotiation. Especially not in this economic climate. However that said, I don't know what its like in Cape Town.

I also don't buy this crap about salary bands, and let me tell you what- my ex-employers, I can tell their ads in PNET from all the others, and I can tell this by the tell-tale language and clues they leave. They still think they can pay the cheap salary for another sucker to come and perform my duties. Three years later, still no takers, apparently my desk is still the way I left it in September 2012.

And, FWIW, I registered this account on MyBB whilst working there.
 

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Always remember that Recruiters will not try and get you the bare minimum, the higher the salary the better off we are.

Bull****. I asked for a figure a few years ago and the recruiter said, 'Um well, I think you should ask for less otherwise you won't get the job.' So I did rather reluctantly, because I really wanted that particular job. Then I joined and the IT director says to me one day quite casually, 'We were willing to give you at least 100k more, why did you ask for so little?'. Turns out the recruitment agent and HR had a sweet deal going.

Recruitment agents. Estate agents. Car salesmen. It's all about the money, and they sweeten you up for the same reason. You are just a commodity.

Which is fine, but best you don't trust them too much.
 

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Bull****. I asked for a figure a few years ago and the recruiter said, 'Um well, I think you should ask for less otherwise you won't get the job.' So I did rather reluctantly, because I really wanted that particular job. Then I joined and the IT director says to me one day quite casually, 'We were willing to give you at least 100k more, why did you ask for so little?'. Turns out the recruitment agent and HR had a sweet deal going.

Recruitment agents. Estate agents. Car salesmen. It's all about the money, and they sweeten you up for the same reason. You are just a commodity.

Which is fine, but best you don't trust them too much.

Perfectly put +10
 

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You have a valid point, however we do not work towards targets, left corporate recruiting because of it. We actually do really care about our candidates and clients well being. Unfortunately this is only something you can decide on your own once partnering with us.

We have the same frustrations, we wish we could advertise company names and salaries as this would get us noticed and have candidates apply without giving us grief. Many corporates as you mentioned have strict policies with regards to advertising roles and we too have to stick to these policies.

We always welcome the criticism and try and communicate this information to clients to educate them on why we have so few applications through advertising by these means.
 

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You have a valid point, however we do not work towards targets, left corporate recruiting because of it. We actually do really care about our candidates and clients well being. Unfortunately this is only something you can decide on your own once partnering with us.

We have the same frustrations, we wish we could advertise company names and salaries as this would get us noticed and have candidates apply without giving us grief. Many corporates as you mentioned have strict policies with regards to advertising roles and we too have to stick to these policies.

We always welcome the criticism and try and communicate this information to clients to educate them on why we have so few applications through advertising by these means.

First of all, I do not trust anyone, especially not since all the hell I have been through and yes, employers lying to me in the interviews about exactly what it is I would be doing, and lying about benefits, etc.. This is why I want to know who I am dealing with, so I can do the necessary. Background checks go both ways, what is good for the goose, is good for the gander. If I had to ever work for a small 5+ employee company again I would first insist on a credit record. Not so nice being paid late, or not at all for a month because "there was no income"

Secondly, this is the trend I have seen:
Company uses a whole slew of recruitment agencies. Eventually word gets out in the recruitment industry and they start doing the direct approach themselves in PNET, and elsewhere, on forums such as these. I am not implying this is the case with you, I am merely stating what I have seen
 

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Reasons why salaries will not be shared is due to current employees who have access to all advertising and social media platforms and are on different salary bands.Salaries in the work place are kept confidential. Always remember that Recruiters will not try and get you the bare minimum, the higher the salary the better off we are. So make sure you get a recruiter that is trying to please you as the candidate and not always the client.

Urgh - no. There is far more motivation for any recruiter to just get the deal done, than to get top price, which becomes exponentially more difficult. Recruiters are motivated to talk up the candidate's worth to the employer, and talk down the candidate's worth to the employee, to the point where the two values overlap, and then a deal can be made. There is only marginal motivation to get a higher salary and hence higher commission, since the marginal increase in commission is generally never worth the vast increase in time and effort to get it.

If commission is 20% of first year's salary, a candidate who wants R1.1m, rather than R1.0m, will mean a difference of R200k vs. R220k commission - the extra R20k over R200k is just not worth the effort if you have someone willing to pay R1m right now. If a recruiter can easily place 10 people/year at below market related values (say R1.05m is market, and they are places at R1m), then they can easily make R2m commision, however, if they only place 7 people at above market rates (1.1m), the commision is only R1.54m.

I.e., in order to maximize commission, it makes sense to get the best possible salary for the candidate, however, in order to maximize commission per unit time, it makes sense to push for a below market salary.
 

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Reasons why salaries will not be shared is due to current employees who have access to all advertising and social media platforms and are on different salary bands.Salaries in the work place are kept confidential.

Requiring employees to keep salaries in the workplace confidential is illegal.

IT workers are in hot demand. If you don't post a salary range , the candidates you want will not go to the effort of finding out. They simply don't need to. There are so many positions available and so few workers to fill them.

Interesting point - at one time I posted all my employees and contractors salaries and pay on a board with their names on it and updated it with their cuts or raises - in rank order from highest to lowest.

I told them - "this is what you are worth. If you want more - become more skilled or produce higher output , take initiative etc."
 
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Requiring employees to keep salaries in the workplace confidential is illegal.

IT workers are in hot demand. If you don't post a salary range , the candidates you want will not go to the effort of finding out. They simply don't need to. There are so many positions available and so few workers to fill them.

Interesting point - at one time I posted all my employees and contractors salaries and pay on a board with their names on it and updated it with their cuts or raises - in rank order from highest to lowest.

I told them - "this is what you are worth. If you want more - become more skilled or produce higher output , take initiative etc."

Fascinating... and let me guess this was a far better motivational tool than all these other bullshyte management systems?

As for the confidentiality clause... didn't know that was illegal... are you sure about that?
 

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Fascinating... and let me guess this was a far better motivational tool than all these other bullshyte management systems?

As for the confidentiality clause... didn't know that was illegal... are you sure about that?

It worked well. I don't think it would work for different types of employees throughout a company , but we were all developers or analysts or tech- related managers. When you see yourself at the bottom day in and day out , you want to change it. Its socially embarrassing and creates a desire to learn , act and think.

It requires pretty regular performance reviews (like once a month) and a structure where salaries can be increased or decreased based on performance and output , initiative taken and skills learnt.

Employees are often times "nudged" not to talk about their salaries and try to enforce this. There are ways to convey this type of culture without it being illegal. However , explicitly telling employees not to discuss re-numeration is illegal under labour laws.
 
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IT workers are in hot demand. If you don't post a salary range , the candidates you want will not go to the effort of finding out. They simply don't need to. There are so many positions available and so few workers to fill them.

Now this is true! Those of us in CPT and JHB/PTA are incredibly lucky.
 

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Employees are often times "nudged" not to talk about their salaries and try to enforce this. There are ways to convey this type of culture without it being illegal. However , explicitly telling employees not to discuss re-numeration is illegal under labour laws.

I wouldn't say "nudged" mate. It is often put in the disciplinary code as a dismissable offence. But more often than not, it is usually those companies that have directors earning fatcat paychecks while the minions get paid crap, that have this kind of attitude.
 

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Requiring employees to keep salaries in the workplace confidential is illegal.

This is the first that I have heard of it being illegal. With many of my previous careers and management of employees, disciplinary codes were signed and it was noted that salaries were to be kept confidential and failure to do so would lead to misconduct and the disciplinary process would be followed. This could possibly be sector related, however with the new POPI Act I am sure such information cannot be shared freely without the consent of the employee.
 
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