Sentech mum on potential spectrum interference

This is the 3rd or 4th article that's been published on this website, and this website only, on this alleged agreement in a week and will probably draw as little interest from genuine users as the first 3 did.
In fact the only parties who have any interest in this issue are the large entrenched monopolies who hate competition and the fact that a largely unnoticed ISP is showing them up in terms of service and delivery.

As I said in response to your first article.."Go Screamer, go"
 
It really saddens me that companies who can and DO deliver services have to possibly resort to illegal spectrum usage just to rollout products to hungry customers. WTF is wrong with ICASA and telecomms in general for this to be necessary. Yet we have bloated, slow companies sitting on valuable spectrum they aren't even using. It's sickening.
 
Sentech and Screamer's denials sound like Bill Clinton did during his trial:

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman."
 
ICASA was asked for information about the apparent illegal use of spectrum by Sentech, but to date the regulator, which should police South Africa’s airwaves, could not provide feedback regarding this issue.

Setting a precedent...

We may now all use spectrum as we wish.

Spread the word.

Thanks ICASA...
 
I find it really sad that a company who are actually using the spectrum for normal customers, are being hounded like this...
Hi Zamicro

Let me be the first to say that I hope a company like Screamer Telecoms will get their own spectrum from ICASA since they are willing to invest in a network. They are offering services to consumers which is great.

There are however other concerns which is why we are writing about this situation: Screamer is using Sentech spectrum, and Sentech says they are using it illegally. If this is indeed the case, then ICASA can take down their network at any time. This means that consumers may sit without telecoms services: something which I am sure they would have liked to be warned about. I am definitely not saying that this is the case, but don’t you think it should at least be reported on?

We asked Screamer Telecoms to explain the situation, and will give feedback soon.
 
Hi Zamicro

Let me be the first to say that I hope a company like Screamer Telecoms will get their own spectrum from ICASA since they are willing to invest in a network. They are offering services to consumers which is great.

There are however other concerns which is why we are writing about this situation: Screamer is using Sentech spectrum, and Sentech says they are using it illegally. If this is indeed the case, then ICASA can take down their network at any time. This means that consumers may sit without telecoms services: something which I am sure they would have liked to be warned about. I am definitely not saying that this is the case, but don’t you think it should at least be reported on?

We asked Screamer Telecoms to explain the situation, and will give feedback soon.

The problem is that a new spectrum may require new hardware - so they are doing no one any favours. Clients are going to be upset when they must buy new.
 
The problem is that a new spectrum may require new hardware - so they are doing no one any favours. Clients are going to be upset when they must buy new.

And hardware is not cheap either.

Hope this issue can be resolved to the benefit of all concerned.
 
Hi Zamicro

Let me be the first to say that I hope a company like Screamer Telecoms will get their own spectrum from ICASA since they are willing to invest in a network. They are offering services to consumers which is great.

There are however other concerns which is why we are writing about this situation: Screamer is using Sentech spectrum, and Sentech says they are using it illegally. If this is indeed the case, then ICASA can take down their network at any time. This means that consumers may sit without telecoms services: something which I am sure they would have liked to be warned about. I am definitely not saying that this is the case, but don’t you think it should at least be reported on?

We asked Screamer Telecoms to explain the situation, and will give feedback soon.

@RPM

Your sentiments are admirable if they are in fact true. However your protestations that, your repeated "5 star labelled" articles on this subject are designed to protect the clients of Screamer, are suspect.


If your article is to be believed it states that Sentech is aware of Screamer using its spectrum as far back as 2005 and that there might be an agreement or correspondence of some sort that exists. This agreement in itself cannot be your issue as there are a number of agreements that Sentech and Screamer could have concluded that are completely legal and could even be designed on the basis that Screamer has built a network on behalf of Sentech and is testing and maintaining it for them. In any case this is not something then that MUST be disclosed to anyone, including the nosiest of reporters. You by your own admission have harrased Sentech and ICASA "numerous times" and they have ignored you. Screamer and Sentech are quite entitled to keep their agreements to themselves and are entilted to keep ignoring you and/or leading you up the garden path.

The bottom line however is that Screamer, Sentech and ICASA have lived happily with this situation for the past 2.5 years and will continue to do so for many years to come. That is, unless Screamer is successfull with this network and the "industry leaders" as you like to call them, but IMHO are the "industry monopolists" manage to pursuade the media, in this case you, to try and complain that they, sorry you, don't quite know what Sentech's/Screamer's strategy is. Why on earth would an "industry spectrum analyst" want to remain anonymous, unless of course he works for your "industry leader" who are probably the only people, apart from ICASA, able to analyse spectrum issued from a tower, or who would even bother.

What real harm is this arrangement about 10 Mhz of Sentechs 50 odd Mhz doing apart from the fact that some gutsy ISP has managed to outsmart the "industry leaders". On one hand you complain that Sentech is not using it's spectrum and then when it looks like they have done something with 10Mhz you complain about that aswell:confused: They are damned if they do and damned if they don't

If Sentech and Screamer were left alone they, and their clients, would continue happily along the route and strategy they have chosen and their clients would be quite safe and continue receiving the good service they are receiving (yes I am one of their happy clients). However your repeated articles (and I am sure if this one doesn't do it there will be plenty more) are designed to scare their clients, and damage Screamers business and that is the only real threat that their clients are exposed to.

So let's be honest RPM, whose interests are you really looking after??
 
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It was recently established that Screamer Telecoms is using Sentech’s WiMax spectrum to offer telecoms services around the country. According to spectrum analysis by an independent telecoms expert Screamer Telecoms is using spectrum in the 2.5 GHz to 2.6 GHz band which has been assigned to Sentech.
Firstly, I don't agree that the link provided "established" that Screamer is using Sentech's spectrum; it merely speculates that it does since neither screamer or sentech confirmed it.

Secondly, I think the writer could have requested feedback from screamer. Sure, the CEO said he'll make a statement "within the next 6 weeks" but that was before this analysis of the specturm by 'an independent telecoms expert'. Sentech was asked for comments following this analysis, why not afford Screamer the same opportunity.

Nice going for following up on this; I certainly think this is news worthy
 
Screamer and Sentech are quite entitled to keep their agreements to themselves and are entilted to keep ignoring you and/or leading you up the garden path.
Nope. Screamer is doing the ignoring, Sentech actually said that they don't have an agreement with Screamer

What real harm is this arrangement about 10 Mhz of Sentechs 50 odd Mhz doing apart from the fact that some gutsy ISP has managed to outsmart the "industry leaders". On one hand you complain that Sentech is not using it's spectrum and then when it looks like they have done something with 10Mhz you complain about that aswell:confused: They are damned if they do and damned if they don't
I don't get your logic. Are you saying that anyone should use the spectrum if it isn't used by the appointed company? So free for all, but only in used spectrum; wait doesn't it become used then?

I agree with the principle of "use it or lose it". But there needs to be a single authority (unfortunately it is ICASA) that makes the call of when it's lost and who gets the next turn to try and use.
 
I hope this gets resolved soon. I would like to change from Neotel to Screamer. I have Screamer coverage.

They responded to my enquiry first thing the next morning.
 
I read:
Sentech mum on potential spectrum interference
and go, hmmmm. then read:

“Sentech is not aware if Screamer Telecoms is using its broadband spectrum, if so it is illegal,” said Sentech’s Head of Corporate Communications, Polly Modiko.

and go WTF?!?!?!? That's certainly not being mum on the issue ...

then I read:
Staff Reporter MyBroadband | 06 August, 2009

'nuff sed.
 
It really saddens me that companies who can and DO deliver services have to possibly resort to illegal spectrum usage just to rollout products to hungry customers. WTF is wrong with ICASA and telecomms in general for this to be necessary. Yet we have bloated, slow companies sitting on valuable spectrum they aren't even using. It's sickening.

+1

Well Sentech says there's no agreement and Screamer's not saying anything.

What's with the 60 days though?
Surely if they were not hiding anything they could comment immediately.

From what I can understand, even if there is an agreement between the two - it was not for them to decide on it.
Though spectrum handouts are reliant on ICASA which is sad, but if there was any dealings that went against legislation - I'd like to know about it.

I reckon that if there is a solid basis to the argument of Screamer using Sentech's spectrum - they should be fined and then be bought out by Sentech to cause as little impact as possible to the network and it's customers.

Good luck to you Screamer customers if that does happen :erm:
 
Sub-Letting

What does the law say about the "sub-letting" of Spectrum :confused:

Are Screamer paying "rent" to Sentech :confused:
ie. Sentech still "own" the Spectrum but Screamer are just "renting" it :confused:
ie. Screamer are a Sentech "proxy".

Sentech has previously said that it does not have any relationship with Screamer Telecoms.
“Sentech is not aware if Screamer Telecoms is using its broadband spectrum, if so it is illegal,”
said Sentech’s Head of Corporate Communications, Polly Modiko.

Perhaps Polly wants a biscuit :confused: ( new BMW 7 series -- WITH all the trimmings):D


MW
 
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