Bobo_Minky
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Has Anyone Noticed That Sentech Has Changed Their Pricing Structure And No Longer Offer The Vstar 512 Connection. In Fact Their Prices Have Sky Rocketed.
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I think it may be bacause they are not doing as well as they had originally expected. Here is a copy of the news as posted by RPM:
by Cuasa
Had either Two Consortium or CommuniTel won the 51% share of the SNO, it is likely that Telkom’s competitor would already be offering services instead of the current mess and mud slinging by some shareholders in the SNO, according to the Communications Users Association of South Africa (CUASA) spokesman, Ray Webber.
by Cuasa
Had either Two Consortium or CommuniTel won the 51% share of the SNO, it is likely that Telkom’s competitor would already be offering services instead of the current mess and mud slinging by some shareholders in the SNO, according to the Communications Users Association of South Africa (CUASA) spokesman, Ray Webber.
martin
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neobyte, how does the article about the SNO relate to Sentech?
Bobo_Minky
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From what ive heard, the technical genius behind sentech left. Some of the other tech crew left as well because of him leaving. And now sentech is battleing to make the magic happen due to lack of expertise. (im not sure how true this all is)
Can anyone explain what this BS about SENTECH being cheap broadband connectivity. Irrespective of how you do the maths their pricing is still higher than Telkom (irrespective of how good or bad telkom is, and BTW they are BAD news for many reasons). Maybe my maths is defective. I have ADSL and by and large have a good speeds (certainly better than SENTECH'S entry level speed. So what would be the bid deal about changing (other than the CAP issue which is a real issue). My speeds are generally at the second pricing package SENTECH offers 256 and better is what I am generally getting all the time (so why pay R800-00++)?
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">From what ive heard, the technical genius behind sentech left<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">This was a MyWireless guy, and no one followed his example.
VStar was introduced long before his existance.
jeffs, you make it a habit to slam things you know nothing about.
Both ADSL and MyWireless have their advantages and disadvantages and for those reasons I have both.
I can download 24/7/365 and often it will burst to 95 KB/sec, something you can only dream about on ADSL.
I'm in the gaming world (programmer) so I need the good pings for testing stuff and ADSL is much better than MyWireless in that regard.
ADSL also has more solid uploads (ave 30KB/sec) as against MyWireless which kinda spike all over the place, (also ServerAdmin Mweb).
But then again when there is a storm on the go, ADSL is bad news so I unplug it and hop onto MyWireless.
Then there is the port prioritization with ADSL, why Telkom do this I just dont know, it is so unnecessary.
Normal surfing on MyWireless is great, knocks spots off ADSL and when I'm in the mood for surfing I switch to MyWireless.
So both are great, it just depends on what you want out of life [
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At least people have a choice - 6 months ago there was no choice.
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VStar was introduced long before his existance.
jeffs, you make it a habit to slam things you know nothing about.
Both ADSL and MyWireless have their advantages and disadvantages and for those reasons I have both.
I can download 24/7/365 and often it will burst to 95 KB/sec, something you can only dream about on ADSL.
I'm in the gaming world (programmer) so I need the good pings for testing stuff and ADSL is much better than MyWireless in that regard.
ADSL also has more solid uploads (ave 30KB/sec) as against MyWireless which kinda spike all over the place, (also ServerAdmin Mweb).
But then again when there is a storm on the go, ADSL is bad news so I unplug it and hop onto MyWireless.
Then there is the port prioritization with ADSL, why Telkom do this I just dont know, it is so unnecessary.
Normal surfing on MyWireless is great, knocks spots off ADSL and when I'm in the mood for surfing I switch to MyWireless.
So both are great, it just depends on what you want out of life [
]At least people have a choice - 6 months ago there was no choice.
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sybawoods
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by ProAsm</i>
<br />At least people have a choice - 6 months ago there was no choice.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Aye-Aye Sir! Personally, would like for the changes and general deregulation to happen much quicker, but all too often we loose perspective. A little more than a year ago, all we had was dial-up. Now we're debating which broadband solution is better... of course, we all know what is possible, but I'd rather be debating MyWireless vs ADSL than 56K vs ISDN.
<br />At least people have a choice - 6 months ago there was no choice.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Aye-Aye Sir! Personally, would like for the changes and general deregulation to happen much quicker, but all too often we loose perspective. A little more than a year ago, all we had was dial-up. Now we're debating which broadband solution is better... of course, we all know what is possible, but I'd rather be debating MyWireless vs ADSL than 56K vs ISDN.
Come on people, how about getting some concrete information before just slanting services like MyWireless.
Jeffs.. have you ever thought of the advantages of MyWireless for ADSL users. If MyWireless becomes strong enough and start causing Telkom to lose ADSL clients, Telkom will have to respond, either by dropping prices or lifting caps. They have invested too much in the infrastructure and I don't think they could afford losing ADSL clients.
On the flip side, they might just start raising ADSL prices if they lose clients which isn't really an option because there's a new buzzword in SA regarding broadband access.
It's called COMPETITION << always a good thing !!
Jeffs.. have you ever thought of the advantages of MyWireless for ADSL users. If MyWireless becomes strong enough and start causing Telkom to lose ADSL clients, Telkom will have to respond, either by dropping prices or lifting caps. They have invested too much in the infrastructure and I don't think they could afford losing ADSL clients.
On the flip side, they might just start raising ADSL prices if they lose clients which isn't really an option because there's a new buzzword in SA regarding broadband access.
It's called COMPETITION << always a good thing !!
Ja their prices have gone up big time for VSTAR, the 512 package was 2,999 and now its 8,899.
At least one gets a fixed IP, no cap and a 15:1 contention...
<b>Where others have progress, we have Telkom.</b>
Hellkom website - http://telkomsucks.0catch.com
At least one gets a fixed IP, no cap and a 15:1 contention...
<b>Where others have progress, we have Telkom.</b>
Hellkom website - http://telkomsucks.0catch.com
First off, I am not slamming anyone BTW. The issue that I raised was "Low cost broadband access - the story and advertising put out by SENTECH. For the 'ordinary'(whatever that is) user the issue is cost, and cost, and then cost. A good example would be a pupil or graduate clean out of school/university who has thesavvy to try and earn through the web(unless they do programming for games or gamble!)they would soon see that SENTECH is all talk and no action when it comes to pricing. The real issue is 'who is fooling who'. Jo soap average cannot afford the call rates let alone an ADSL and SENTECH set-up. That's for the rich, or fortunates of this world.
Secondly, this is not a game of playing the one against the other (the expression I believe is palying the left against the right for the middle - with the middle being low cost!). What kind of consumer/business strategy is that to get prices to drop?
Thirdly. if SENTECH also tries to fool one with the fact that you are saving ISP fees that doesn't count. You have to compare appples to apples to get to the real base price of SENTECH which no one knows? Would be very keen to find out what it is. essentially it's really just an email service which can be bought anywhere (I assume) at a low cost.
Secondly, this is not a game of playing the one against the other (the expression I believe is palying the left against the right for the middle - with the middle being low cost!). What kind of consumer/business strategy is that to get prices to drop?
Thirdly. if SENTECH also tries to fool one with the fact that you are saving ISP fees that doesn't count. You have to compare appples to apples to get to the real base price of SENTECH which no one knows? Would be very keen to find out what it is. essentially it's really just an email service which can be bought anywhere (I assume) at a low cost.
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Jeffs: The cost of ANY kind of communication in SA is exhorbitant - cell phones, landlines, MyWireless are all pretty damn expensive.
However basic economics is to "play one side against the other" - its called competition dude - and that way the competing players force each other's costs down. As a consumer, if one has no choice then the provider can do whatever the hell they want - eg. Telkom and ADSL.
So whilst I agree with your point about the costs of any kind of comms access, you really need to get a clue when it comes to basic economics. Nothing - even govt. regulations - will provide a sustainable low-cost communications environment besides competition, lots of it.
Oh an if you wanna compare apples, check out this calculation:
Residential ADSL Option: roughly R850 depending on ISP.
512kbps = 64kbytes/s -> Max data download allowed from international sites = 3GB (roughly 14hrs of downloading before cap is hit)
Rough cost per international MB: R0.27 (R850/3072MB)
MyWireless 256K Option: roughly R850
256kbps = 32kbytes/s -> Max data download allowed from international sites = roughly 73GB (28 days, 24/7)
Acceptable use is loosely set at 2GB per day, so I'll use 2 * 28 days =56GB for the cost calculation.
Rough cost per international MB: R0.015 (R850/57344MB)
Those figures assume 100% uptime and do not include installation costs.
Telkom ADSL costs <u><b>18x</b></u> more for international bandwith on a MB for MB basis.
Now who's ripping off the customer again???
<font color="blue">Telkom needs a leash, ICASA needs some guts, and the </font id="blue"><font color="red">SA consumer</font id="red"><font color="blue"> needs to make it happen</font id="blue">
However basic economics is to "play one side against the other" - its called competition dude - and that way the competing players force each other's costs down. As a consumer, if one has no choice then the provider can do whatever the hell they want - eg. Telkom and ADSL.
So whilst I agree with your point about the costs of any kind of comms access, you really need to get a clue when it comes to basic economics. Nothing - even govt. regulations - will provide a sustainable low-cost communications environment besides competition, lots of it.
Oh an if you wanna compare apples, check out this calculation:
Residential ADSL Option: roughly R850 depending on ISP.
512kbps = 64kbytes/s -> Max data download allowed from international sites = 3GB (roughly 14hrs of downloading before cap is hit)
Rough cost per international MB: R0.27 (R850/3072MB)
MyWireless 256K Option: roughly R850
256kbps = 32kbytes/s -> Max data download allowed from international sites = roughly 73GB (28 days, 24/7)
Acceptable use is loosely set at 2GB per day, so I'll use 2 * 28 days =56GB for the cost calculation.
Rough cost per international MB: R0.015 (R850/57344MB)
Those figures assume 100% uptime and do not include installation costs.
Telkom ADSL costs <u><b>18x</b></u> more for international bandwith on a MB for MB basis.
Now who's ripping off the customer again???
<font color="blue">Telkom needs a leash, ICASA needs some guts, and the </font id="blue"><font color="red">SA consumer</font id="red"><font color="blue"> needs to make it happen</font id="blue">
Firstly, I believe that Sentech and Telkom try not to step on eachother's turf. They structure their services in such a way as to not really offer products that can replace one another. It is a case where one is priced right but the service options lack. Then the other one's service options are perfect but priced wrong. Sad, so sad!
Then there is the question of why we cannot even give dialup users fixed rate 24/7 Internet access in this country... This will be a revolution of note in South Africa!
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Cheers
Ant
Then there is the question of why we cannot even give dialup users fixed rate 24/7 Internet access in this country... This will be a revolution of note in South Africa!
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Cheers
Ant
mithrandi
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">jeffs, you make it a habit to slam things you know nothing about.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Don't feed the trolls too much, they can get aggressive and start biting humans if they get fed too much, and then people start feeding them. Maybe we should put a sign up...
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Don't feed the trolls too much, they can get aggressive and start biting humans if they get fed too much, and then people start feeding them. Maybe we should put a sign up...
<hr noshade size="1">mithrandi, i Ainil en-Balandor, a faer Ambar