Sentech Response to ASASA and ISPA

Sentech: great on promises, poor on delivery. Especially Winston Smith. He comes up with a new interpretation every month. Unfortunately he has consumers who have agreed to a service for 24 months at a time, so reinterpreting what is being offered is not going to help.

I have every intention of pinning them down on specific, measurable performance criteria. Of course they are wriggling - they know that they are promising A and delivering B. Watch this space.

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OK, now for the bad news: there will be no demonstrations to the ASASA. "We don't do demonstrations" I was told today.

More bad news: Page 8 of their original response is "confidential".

And there is no reply from Sentech about the speeds that users should be able to accept. Not yet anyway. I will give them a few more days before posting my reply to Winston Smith here.

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From: Donn Edwards
Sent: Monday, 18 October 2004 08:15
To: Smith, Winston
Cc: Potgieter, Michelle
Subject: RE: [despammed] Complaint to the Adertising Standards Authority


Dear Mr Smith and Dr Potgieter

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "I could discuss when and how we are ale to allow you to do the demonstration". I would prefer to keep these discussions in writing. There have been so many conflicting statements in the media about the MyWireless service that it seems like MyWireless "reinvents" itself on a monthly basis.

The "specific constraints" of the service are obvious, even to a novice user. The "MyWireless 128kbps" service does not operate at 128kbps, as you well know, even though the modem is capable of "download speeds up to 3Mbps". Similary the 256k users do not experience speeds of 256k, and 512k users do not obtain speeds of 512k. Not even when doing the Sentech speed test. So clearly there is a problem.

My question is simple: Sentech insists on using the term "broadband" to describe its service. Yet very few of the users ever experience broadband connection speeds, even when doing the local speed test. Furthermore, the Sentech submission to the ASA dated 16/07/2004 delibrately ignores the Sentech press release in which it is clearly stated

"Broadband refers to a connection speed from 128Kbps and higher from the end user to the network provider."

So by your own definition the MyWireless 128 service is sub-broadband (since it doesn't work at 128kbps), yet you insist on using the term "Enter the Sentech Broadband Zone". Even after the ISPA has stated

... in ISPA's opinion, "broadband Internet access" is any form of Internet access which provides significantly faster access to the internet that traditional dial-up services. In ISPA's view, "significantly faster" means at least four or five times the speed of traditional dial-up services.

In my email I specifically requested the following information:

What download speeds should MyWireless users expect from
a) The Sentech Speed test http://www.sentech.co.za/speedtest/display_speed.php
b) Local web sites, such as http://www.702.co.za or http://www.mweb.co.za
c) International web sites, such as http://www.cnn.com or http://news.bbc.co.uk
for each of the 3 packages.

The reason for asking this specific question is precisely because <b>Sentech has been deliberately vague and evasive about answering this question</b>, either on its web site or in its media statements. Had you clarified this at the beginning, your customers would have been able to make a properly informed decision on whether to commit themselves to a 12 or 24 month contract, and would not have been misled by all the hype about "broadband".

For further information on my specific complaint to the ASA, please visit http://privacy.4mg.com/MyWireless.html

You will find copies of the complaint, details of tests that I and others have conducted, and proof that using a dial-up modem is faster than MyWireless.

I look forward to your reply

Best wishes
Donn Edwards
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No reply has been received to date. They obviously don't want to admit the truth.

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Donn, I think they're stonewalling you till they've bought enough bandwidth so that the speed tests don't reflect so badly. Local speed is a good example, a few days after us posting those horrid speeds on 256K package to local speed tests, 256K local speed "magically" got fixed. I'm now getting a constant 256K (32KB/s) from local sites (ftp.is.co.za etc). International speed is still wrong. It seems to be capped at 8KB/s no matter what I do. My guess is, when they finally respond, they've probably fixed the network, and end up being "innocent"
I think it's important for us to collect this historical data, if they try to pull that move.

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256k ... BAH..more like 25.6k
FSCK YOU Sentech!! [:(!]
 
patiently waiting for my port allocation on my nearest exchange... and i'll be on my way to TRUE broadband...adsl

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Dude, while reading through http://privacy.4mg.com/MyWireless.html I notice I was quoted in saying my gran on a scooter is faster than mywiresuck... hehehehe

:) I'm so cool

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in all honesty I think Sentech know they still have a lot of work to do. I dont think they would like to admit publicly that their speeds aren't up to scratch for obvious reasons.

Sentechs user base is not in the high numbers and I imgaine that it is difficult to home in on users to rectify their speed related issues as there could be various reasons for the crap speeds.

Atleast I know Sentech have acknowledged a prob with my tower and lets see.

I figured at the end of the day there is a possiblity of cancelling.


myWireless 128, 64, 48, 16 - depends on its mood.
 
if I get 32KB/s local, but 8KB/s intl, then it's pretty obvious the problem is not on the wireless network

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256k ... BAH..more like 25.6k
FSCK YOU Sentech!! [:(!]
 
Unless they were trying to do bandwidth management (local vs int) on each tower! This is what I was told they are doing by one of the "help" guys!
 
Unless I'm missing something fundamental, the reason for their stonewalling is quite simple. If they should buy enough bandwidth to give 128 users 128kb/s, 256 users 256kb/s, and 512 users 512kb/s international bandwidth, or even say 90% of that, the cost per user, that of course includes their massive overheads because of their incompetence and obvious hopeless management, would probably be higher than the subscription income for the service obtained from the users. So they would make a loss in the MW division that would mean that this division must be subsidised by another division.

This, a parastatal like ST, that does not know the basics of competitive business, CRM, and technical management would never do. It's much easier just to keep stonewalling, lying and screwing their users, wiping their asses off on the ASA, and hope if they ignore the problem long enough it will go away.
 
Perdition - If they are not carefull that is exactly what will happen. There is only so much a person will take.

They came in offering a choice between Telkom or them. The have fscked up. For me I am giving them time because they have asked me for time, but that time is ticking... and the sad thing is I dont want to go to telkom...

I would love to carry on supporting Sentech if only they will support me... I think that is fair.


myWireless 128, 64, 48, 16 - depends on its mood.
 
I think that time has run out for most people and that's why this part of the forum is fairly quiet lately. People just don't have the energy to complain anymore and would rather just cancel and get on with life. With the regulatory changes coming Feb next year I think Sentech will see their asses unless they have a miracle up their sleeve.
 
sentech 512 is *** that 10k a sec is a blessing :P

<b>in chaos all things are harmonious</b>
<i>Tower 82 14% Signal 512k package </i>
 
has anyone noted the subtle changes to the sentech homepage. I think it was spurred by what has been happening with the ASA. But then Sentech just moved info and were clever not to mention broadband next to 128K and 256K on the homepage.

But we have a 512K at work and even that aint broadband and I am sure an ISDN 128K line will give it a run for its money.


myWireless 128, 64, 48, 16 - depends on its mood.
 
I think the bandwidth management system is responsible for all of their problems. If it won't let you do their own speed test at the "package" speed then what hope do we have of getting decent speeds anywhere else.

I accept that international bandwidth speeds will vary, but I'm tired of Winston Smith giving us a different spin every month on what the MW service actually is supposed to provide.

As far as I can see, with possibly the exception of the 512k package, everything that ST is providing is less than "broadband" so they should be prevented from advertising it as broadband.

As you may know from my earlier posts, it is possible to get better download speeds from a 45k modem connected to SAIX. Now that is a scary thought.

I think I'm going to point out to ASASA that the MW service is well below advertised speeds, and well below what the ISPA has said is "broadband", and ST should be ordered to avoid using the term "broadband" and "broadband zone" until such time as it is truly broadband.

If they were HONEST and said what their true speeds were, they wouldn't be taking so much flak from their customers.


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That's all fine. But I also want them to give their users who signed up under the "broadband" pretense an option to cancel the service without financial/legal penalties, and the means ANY user. Not the "selected" few who got out and the rest have to pay 70% penalty

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256k ... BAH..more like 25.6k
FSCK YOU Sentech!! [:(!]
 
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<br />patiently waiting for my port allocation on my nearest exchange... and i'll be on my way to TRUE broadband...adsl

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Telkom ADSL is not TRUE BROADBAND.

At best it is the best broadband available in a technological sabotaged country.

South Africa needs World Class Broadband at World Competitive Prices.
 
I don't think they can force anyone to pay 70%. After all, its not in the contract.

There are plenty of guidelines in the AUP for what to do to get them to ask you to leave. I'm sure an open proxy, plus Kazaa and a web server would be a good place to start [;)]

To set up a web server, use dyndns.org to set up a url, then install Abyss Web Server X1 and you're up and running. It shouldn't be too difficult to put some high-demand content on it, such as bootleg software, dodgy pictures or long video clips. I have done this for legitimate puposes, basically to allow my brother to access his home PC from the office, and it works pretty well.

Remember: the customer is always right.

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