My position is pretty moderate (and from what I have seen, pretty common). Should you wish I could PM (worried about the stalkers so will pm you) you the links to one international forum I post on, and you will see what I am saying is 100% true.
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My position is pretty moderate (and from what I have seen, pretty common). Should you wish I could PM (worried about the stalkers so will pm you) you the links to one international forum I post on, and you will see what I am saying is 100% true.
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Fudzy
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Yeah like a Boeremag Youth League... eish.
Didn't the AWB have a youth wing too?
Relax, conscience you're not one of them.
R13...
Honorary Master
Zero on both sides mainly because your imagined Malemanites do not exist.
Anyone listened carefully to the kids commenting before and after the camp? How their views about a "rainbow nation" has changed from "yeah I have no problem with it" to, "no, white cannot live with black and they are inferior". Not to mention that Franz Jooste (the man in charge), was an apartheid general...
And there are more than one of these camp's going btw.
http://afrikanerjournal.wordpress.com/tag/col-franz-jooste/
And there are more than one of these camp's going btw.
http://afrikanerjournal.wordpress.com/tag/col-franz-jooste/
Nerfherder
Honorary Master
Its quite easy to call bullshlt on that.
You can see that the "major" in that video has the same views as he had before 1994, its not like he was happy when the liberation came, nothing since 1994 has changed the way he thinks.
Its the "born free's" that are being changed. They even admit it in the video... they seem quite happy with the country they live in. There are no big speeches about crime and corruption, just comments on the challenges of a new democracy.
Its the poison from the old man that changed them.
daveza
Honorary Master
Everyone seems to have forgotten what happened to the last group of boer heroes - some of them ended up slumped next to a beaten up Merc.
It's all just a great big w4nk and will amount to nothing.
It's all just a great big w4nk and will amount to nothing.
R13...
Honorary Master
Meh. Another day another racist getting defended by them cry racism boys at myBB central (or is that right)
Nerfherder
Honorary Master
Worries me as well that they hide behind this "black revolution" threat, mainly because its not a defined event. They will decide when that time is.
Its just a rehash of the normal "Swaart gevaar" rubbish that we have seen for ages. Its simply a revamp of "Operation Uhuru" (which is apparently when the communists are ganna kill us all). The only people who fall for that stuff these days are uneducated trailer trash. Right wing conservatives (of all races) have always and will always try grow fear in people. The more scared the dumb people in their population group are, the easier they are to manipulate.
TheHiveMind
Banned
Oh? I read the other day about Zoom zooms ancyl days. Sounded pretty close to me.
you still have proved nothing ? cause there is a video i must believe it ? next time i go to the cinema, i guess i will believe everything i see, cause it must be true!!
You are asking us for this level of proof, so i require it back. Until you have 1st hand testimonies, and accounts, that you recorded on your own camcorder, this is just a sensationalist story to me that they got actors to do.
must i bring you my maids son, who went on the black version of this camp to tell you his experiences ?
Ive given you evidence, I can also give you evidence from those racists confirming that what they are doing is true. Theyre not shy about it. They have blog posts and everything! Catch a wake up dude. Provide evidence please. Thats all I am asking. It doesnt have to be your own eye witness testimony, just ... you know.. .video confirming the crap you are speaking. I have video and testimony from the people running the place confirming what they are doing. Including publications from several respected media houses. Where`s your`s? best you can do is offer your opinion without even the slightest bit of evidence... and then cry because a forensic audit was not done on the mountains of evidence on this side.
This whole bluster of yours is your way of saying, "I dont have any evidence so I am going to be pendandic to try cover up the fact that I have absolutely no evidence, I will also be sure to ignore what several media houses are saying and what the leaders of kommando camp THEMSELVES are saying... cause I am right, no matter what. Video is all evil!"
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Nerfherder
Honorary Master
Well firstly its from A legitimate source with real journalists and its staring an actual person who is real and has those views.
Also there are many other accounts of these camps so not just this video.
I think its more stupid to assume that this is some kind of charade.
I can't see how anything other than a lobotomy can cure anyone of racism, whether it's white racists like the mob bring discussed here or Malema's fan base. They both deserve each other. We should lock these white racists up in a small room with ANCYL and then lobotomise whoever comes out after a week.
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Fudzy
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Got a link? That should be interesting reading.
Put them on and island like that Japanese movie the Battle Royale
(that is one really strange movie).Should I take you to my cousin so he can tell you all about what it was like on a camp like this? (He also met Eugene Tereblance)
Sure, M&G set up this site to make their story seem true right?
http://www.kommandokorps.org/
http://afrikanerjournal.wordpress.c...ween-afrikaner-resistance-movements/#comments
I havent seen the video, its blocked at my work so i never commented on that - that is exactly why i said the only thing "I" can think of is ...... perhaps you are right about the born free's that are being changed, i was not taught to hate black people but like i said with my circumstances and what has happened to me can easily lead me to believe that it could be much worse for some other white people out there (inflicted pain from black people) and that is also a reason why alot of them are starting to become racist - not because they just hate black people but because how they have been affected since the democracy.
you are probably right in your own way and my opinions probably have nothing to do with the people at the camps but its just another reason based on what i read in the article without seeing the video. To me it doesnt sound very far off what the black people did in the old days - (sure it wasnt made out to be a "training camp" but it certainly was a group of people)
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/406943-Zuma-lashes-out-at-ANCYL
"Zuma said he was once a militant youth league member and had been part of a plan to descend on Durban's old Smith and West streets to kill white people. They had been gossiping among themselves outside meetings and decided they would buy bush knives and descend on the two streets at about 11:00 on a Saturday when it was busy."
The question is why would the black people want to do this? its cos they had a **** life with the government that was ruling, I dont see any reason why these white people would want spread hate unless something bad has happened against them. maybe they just dont like the opposite colour skin (cant really say as its not me) - i suppose it goes both ways considering the afrikaans have "no home land" and now the government wants to take the land they paid for - maybe the land was originally taken from the blacks but that was more than likely not by these white guys at this camp - probably a generation or 2 before that. anyway this is getting off topic. Im just speculating about what i see and the reasons why people would act like this.
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Fudzy
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You should read a bit more on that story you posted. Also have a look at the MK page on Wikipedia.
yea maybe so... but that doesnt prove my view wrong... and it doesnt change the fact that pre apartheid my parents could go into a bank, leave the car on the street with the doors wide open and car running and come back with the car still perfectly intact (which they did on many occassions not just 1).... doesnt change the fact that my parents got sacked (with 15 years at the company) and replaced with somebody that does not even know how to do the job, then still be expected to train the new person (my mom actually even spoke to one of her manager friends who gave her the score and result sheet, mom had 90% score, new person had 32%)... this is only the tip of the iceberg for the problems our family has struggled due to black people... so how am i supposed to feel about this...
now to add to my statements above, what about people that have been affected worse than my family (deaths and murders and ransacking and torture).. how should they feel, oh its a rainbow nation we must all work together etc... just saying things like that unfortunately does not change what is happening to the white people now. sure maybe ***** happened to the black's back in the day but doesnt mean everything must just be handed to them on a golden platter now and doesnt mean that the white people who worked hard to get where they were should be suffering now.
again this is getting off topic. its my opinions, agree if you want, dont agree it doesnt change my life in the slightest and i honestly dont give a ***** about anyone elses opinions on this topic. it doesnt take a genius to see what is right and wrong.. in my opinion these camps for training white people to hate blacks looks pretty damn similar to articles and everything i have heard about the old regime (and how they planned to kill whites outside of meetings, sure maybe the MK didnt do that but certainly a few of there members did outside of meetings in a seperate group) im not making anymore comments on this thread because we can argue for a lifetime on this. each to their own