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Im busy speccing an elemental shaman, but early game its dps is very very lame, and while running deadmines I felt next to useless. Im going to be duel speccing this shaman for elemental and restoration.

Should I rather concentrate on restoration in early game or carry on my elemental build until I can do decent damage? At least as a healer I feel like I am useful.

What are your suggestions?

This is the elemental talent build I am following: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#hEh0qcdItGfzAo0xxco

This is the restoration build I will be following: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#hZ0xxIZx0euIxoxkrIRt

What kinda items should I be needing for? Im currently looking at anything that boosts agility and spell power. Is there a good shaman leveling guide I should look at?
 
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Why not go enhancement till 40 and then go elemental and restro?
You will level much better I think
 
I dont know, I never thought of that as an option, why would I do that rather?
 
I dont know, I never thought of that as an option, why would I do that rather?

I would have rather gone for a Druid if you want to do Resto+DPS

However, I level'd a Shaman and loved it, even raided pre WoTLK as Enchancement and it was Brilliant. Shaman's are an awesome class to play but the problem with it is the same as any other Hybrid. You lack to be the best at any given function. The Shaman healers are EPIC in raids, but pretty much less fun in a 5 man setup. I have never played as Elemental so I have no idea what it's like. I know that between 60-70 they do insane damage, but it dies down from there.

If you really want to have fun playing a shaman go enchancement. 1-40 BIG axe with WF weapon. At 40 Dual wield, get 2x 2.60 speed 1h weapons and PewPew. You rip through mobs like nothing else I have ever seen, then you have the added benefit of instant heals (Talent) and WF weapon+Lava Lash is insane. You also never run out of Mana. You get Mana on damage dealt based on your AP (Talent)
 
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Having an 80 shammy myself. I would say go enhancement all the way to 70, then you can decide whether you want to level enhancement or elemental. Save restoration for 70 - 80, that way you will enjoy the instances more ;)
 
Having an 80 shammy myself. I would say go enhancement all the way to 70, then you can decide whether you want to level enhancement or elemental. Save restoration for 70 - 80, that way you will enjoy the instances more ;)

Okay... Ill spend some money and drop my elemental skills... and go enchantment. Anyone got an enchantment build they can recommend? What items should I be needing for an enchantment build?

One handed weapon or two?
 
Get a two hander till you can dual wield, then go 2 one handers
 
I have an 80 shaman which is dual spec elem/resto...Unfortuantely you have to level as enhancement up until lvl 75...then you get lava burst and elemental shaman becomes much better to play. With lava burst you should be able to kill the mob before he reaches you LightningBolt + flameshock + Lavaburst(CRIT) = mob dead....enhancement is fun up until then. :P
 
why on earth did you roll a shaman ?

shamans are the long and forgotten uber class, i should know , I have an orc shaman and a Drae Shama both 80, I have raided and pvp 'd extensivley with with both shamans and found them to be pretty uselss.

Resto was the only real tree for me , The dps in our raiding guild was insane and had no place for Encha shaman. I even tried Ele to find my dps was even lower than what it would be with Duel W/F.

Dont get me wrong , shamans have alot of buffs , alot of chaotic buffs with windfurry and some descent totems for any type class , But that my friend is where it ends and has ended for me.

I then rolled a rogue and palla to find them far more superior to the shaman.

As I stated earlier , Shamans are the forgotten uber class and used to feared by many in pvp and pve, but with the new expansions and all the new talents and buffs for all the other classes, the shaman has dropped to the bottom of the food chain.
 
why on earth did you roll a shaman ?

shamans are the long and forgotten uber class, i should know , I have an orc shaman and a Drae Shama both 80, I have raided and pvp 'd extensivley with with both shamans and found them to be pretty uselss.

Resto was the only real tree for me , The dps in our raiding guild was insane and had no place for Encha shaman. I even tried Ele to find my dps was even lower than what it would be with Duel W/F.

Dont get me wrong , shamans have alot of buffs , alot of chaotic buffs with windfurry and some descent totems for any type class , But that my friend is where it ends and has ended for me.

I then rolled a rogue and palla to find them far more superior to the shaman.

As I stated earlier , Shamans are the forgotten uber class and used to feared by many in pvp and pve, but with the new expansions and all the new talents and buffs for all the other classes, the shaman has dropped to the bottom of the food chain.

Epic or not when it comes to DPS/Healing

I have to rate Shaman as one of the most fun classes to play. And I have played a Warlock, Pala, Rogue and Shaman at raid levels. And just about every other class to desent levels to be able to rate it one of my favourite classes to level and raid with. Now with 4 instant totems .... AWESOMENESS.

Just wish I had the time to level my Shaman to 80 now from 73 :(
 
Epic or not when it comes to DPS/Healing

I have to rate Shaman as one of the most fun classes to play. And I have played a Warlock, Pala, Rogue and Shaman at raid levels. And just about every other class to desent levels to be able to rate it one of my favourite classes to level and raid with. Now with 4 instant totems .... AWESOMENESS.

Just wish I had the time to level my Shaman to 80 now from 73 :(

fun yes , in the begining , so are all the other classes when you hit a specific level.

Try do a pvp battle ground with a encha shama at lvl 80 , let me know how it goes.

Try be a main tank healer for lengthy fight and let me know

To the OP , dont roll a shaman , roll something that has more to offer for end game content.
 
fun yes , in the begining , so are all the other classes when you hit a specific level.

Try do a pvp battle ground with a encha shama at lvl 80 , let me know how it goes.

Try be a main tank healer for lengthy fight and let me know

To the OP, don’t roll a shaman, roll something that has more to offer for end game content.

Then you sir, fail at being a shaman.

I do fine in battlegrounds as enhancement, only having a real issue is with rogues and I have the least amount of issues with paladins. (If you have not discovered that the Purge ability is the key to killing a paladin, then I guess you really shouldn't be playing a class which has more than 4 to press). As enhancement in pve content as a secondary spec, I do about 4400 dps (10man buffed).

In my healing gear I have 21300 mana and 2230 spell power unbuffed. I do a lot of MT healing and I have never run into an issue. If you are running oom, then you are not using all your skills correctly or not using the correct heal for the correct situation. But is saying that, shaman's by design, are not designed as MT healers, that roll would go to a Paladin healer. Shaman's are designed as a raid wide healing class and when doing so I can push our around 3800 - 4200 HPS (healing per second).

To the OP, shaman's are an amazingly fun class to play, but you have to understand that a shaman is THE support class in wow. Your roll is to make other classes look better than what they really are. Be it as elemental, enhancement or restoration.

Yes you could go roll a rogue who's raid roll is just DPS and brings little to no raid utility or buffs. But keep in mind that as a shaman, the only reason that rogue is looking so shiny at the top of the dps list is because of your totems and utility buffs.

As enhancement, you scale like a warrior, so without buffs you will do 2500DPS on a heroic test dummy, but throw down your totems, get Blessing of might from a paladin and suddenly you shoot up to over 3500dps. Needless to say that because of Unleased Rage, you are increasing the entire raids attack power by an additional 10%. there is also windfury totem, talented strength of earth, etc... You are the melee buffs God of wow. You alone make all the other melee dps in the raid feel stronger than what they really are. With a simple drop of totems and an auto attack, you give each of these melee dpsers an additional 800 dps each. If you had to include the additional dps you provide into your personal dps, you would be considered a Heroic mode boss.

As elemental, you have the same rotation as a destruction warlock except you have totem wrath, 280 extra spell power to the raid and an extra 3% crit. you are to casters what an enhancement shaman is to melee

As resto, you the most awesome raid healer, to have a spamable aoe heal which has incredible reach, you have mana tide totem, which is a god send in extremely long fights for all other healers. You are also very efficient at keeping the other raid healers alive and making their lives easier with cleansing totem, cleanse spirit, earth shield, ancestral awakening and backing up their healing when they can't keep up with the incoming damage. Allowing them to focus on keeping the tanks up.

You also hold some raid altering tools like Tremor totem, resistance totems and Heroism / Bloodlust. All of which no raid will ever say no too.

Shamans are the wow support class and there is not one successful high-end raiding guild that does not have shamans in their raid setup.

If you like Hoodlum and only care about what personal dps you do with the 4 buttons you have, then yes roll something else. If you want to be a raid altering class, roll a shaman.


As for levelling, level enhancement all the way, duel wield windfury at 40 and only use weapons around the 2.60 speed. Elemental is only _really_ viable at 75 when you get lava burst as it's a key component to the elemental rotation and will account to around 35% - 40% of your DPS.
If you choose to go enhancement all the way, then you change from Windfury/Windfury to Windfury/Flametongue at around lvl 75 when you can put 5 points into elemental fury.

This is not to say you can't level elemental, if you enjoy the playing style of elemental, then go with that :)
 
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Then you sir, fail at being a shaman.

but you have to understand that a shaman is THE support class in wow. Your roll is to make other classes look better than what they really are.

I stopped reading the big wall of text after that.
 
Perhaps you should have continued your reading hoodlum... i agree 100% with pitbull and murmaider.
 
fun yes , in the begining , so are all the other classes when you hit a specific level.

Try do a pvp battle ground with a encha shama at lvl 80 , let me know how it goes.

Try be a main tank healer for lengthy fight and let me know

To the OP , dont roll a shaman , roll something that has more to offer for end game content.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Either that or you never played in wotlk. Shaman is pretty decent MT healer with earth shield and the LHW glyph. I can spam LHW on the tank for 10 mins without going OOM. My normal LHW hits is 6k, with my crits going between 9-10k. Tank also gets the armor buff on my crits, which happens often. Raid healing shaman is still one of the best since the range of CH got increased.

Enhancement is doing really well in BG's if you have any clue what you are doing, and you know how to use your totems. Clothies goes down in seconds, and snares is less of an issue than it was a while ago due to GW changes. You also have a spell called purge that helps as well.

So in summary I want to suggest that you please get a clue before you post as an 'expert'
 
Can definitely recommend this a watch :

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxrUVGpaZ18[/ame]

Obviously those occasions where all the stars align but if rets can make em with wings , this is quite enjoyable :P

Warning : probably 0 res targets shown :P
 
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