Shockingly Bad service from Neotel & Co!

Glkfrans

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My wife and I were shopping at N1 City Mall Cape Town and NEOTEL was doing a presentation of its products and services. We naturally stopped and an enthusiastic consultant / rep asked us if we would like to hear a bit more and see a demo of the products on display. We then listened to what he had to say and he then took our details and said that a NEOTEL rep would do a demonstration at our home. We got a call and the caller arranged that a rep come to our home. A rep by the name of Mondre’ came to us and basically told us everything we heard from the rep at the Mall. We asked that he bring a PRIME handset to do a demo of the internet connection and the telephony system as this product would best suit our needs. Mondre’ then came back the next and explained that if we signed up that evening that that the application process would take at most a day and if approved our handset would be delivered within 48 hours of approval.

We then filled in all forms and supplied all the necessary supporting documentation for the application. Before Mondre' left our he home that night he informed us that that he would be off on holiday for the next week however his partner JJ from their company would be in contact with us regarding our application. We heard nothing from these gentlemen on Monday and I then proceeded to give JJ a call and he informed me that due to it being Christmas period things were a bit difficult on NEOTEL’S side in order to reach the promised Turnaround times however he confirmed that our application was definitely approved and that the handset was dispatched and that delivery would probably take place on Wednesday 24th December 2008. At approximately 14h00 on the 24th I called JJ to follow up on the delivery of the handset, however he was not answering his phone. I then gave Monde’ a call and he said that he would get back to me in the next 30 minutes.

After boxing day I called back to find out that our application was not actually successfull however there would be another process to be followed in order for us to have it appoved. JJ said that we would get feedback from him on Monday 5th January 2009. That never happend and i proceeded to write to NEOTEL ([email protected]) and their very poor response was "We at Neotel are very apologetic in the way that your application was handled but you application can be picked up on our system. I have checked the coverage in your area as well and found that you are covered only for the Lite device." This suggests that everything is back on track, our application is approved and it's just a coverage issue now. When I called into their call centre a lady by the name of Mapula refers this response with the reference number given to me to her team leader who was to get back to me the next very same day. This too did not materialise.

This was almost 2 weeks after our initial application (very far from the 48hr TAT that Neotel claim to meet)

Two days later mondre calls to say that our line has been approved subject to us paying a laughable "deposit" for the duration of 2 year contract. We refused and took our business somewhere else.

My wife and I were so optimistic and excited about the prospects on offer and were almost going to cancel our Telkom line in order to use the NEOTEL service. Luckily for us we did not do this yet otherwise we would have been sitting without a landline. When we were in the N1 City Mall and the NEOTEL rep asked us if NEOTEL could contact us from thereon in I was to be dealing with NEOTEL (even if an outsourced company was handling this on your behalf). Treating potential clientele in this manner is really unacceptable. As the official competitor to Telkom I cannot foresee NEOTEL making a real impact in the consumer market with the service standards and unprofessionalism as detailed above.

THIS IS JUST BAD!!!:(
DON'T BE FOOLED!
I'M SO UPSET THAT I'M GOING TO ARGUS ACTION IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS!
 
I have been a Prime member since July last year and I can also confirm that their service has gone from good, to bad, to pathetic. There has been a decrease in internet speed over the last week and I phoned the call center (and confirmed the call via e-mail) but have not heard anything. I have followed-up via e-mail but not even an automated response.

I am of the opinion that Neotel has thrown all resources onto the Neoflex project and have forgotten about the rest of the business.

The only comment I can make: "Welcome to Afrika"...
 
I have been a Prime member since July last year and I can also confirm that their service has gone from good, to bad, to pathetic. There has been a decrease in internet speed over the last week and I phoned the call center (and confirmed the call via e-mail) but have not heard anything. I have followed-up via e-mail but not even an automated response.

I am of the opinion that Neotel has thrown all resources onto the Neoflex project and have forgotten about the rest of the business.

The only comment I can make: "Welcome to Afrika"...


I agree 100%, their service has degraded at an exponential rate since I first signed up for Prime at the start of August last year.
As of the last week my connection is barely usable, I am getting 2000+ errors received, packet loss, slow speed and high latency.

Even something as basic as checking my email has become a hassle on Neotel, refreshing the page 3 times just to get it open.
I first logged a technical ticket around 3 months ago, in December I was told RF and Network engineers would look into the problem and behold 1 month later it has gotten worse, not better.
After upgrading due to overbilling issue atleast I can download, too bad the speed is at 12kb/s.
 
My wife and I were shopping at N1 City Mall Cape Town and NEOTEL was doing a presentation of its products and services. We naturally stopped and an enthusiastic consultant / rep asked us if we would like to hear a bit more and see a demo of the products on display. We then listened to what he had to say and he then took our details and said that a NEOTEL rep would do a demonstration at our home. We got a call and the caller arranged that a rep come to our home. A rep by the name of Mondre’ came to us and basically told us everything we heard from the rep at the Mall. We asked that he bring a PRIME handset to do a demo of the internet connection and the telephony system as this product would best suit our needs. Mondre’ then came back the next and explained that if we signed up that evening that that the application process would take at most a day and if approved our handset would be delivered within 48 hours of approval.

We then filled in all forms and supplied all the necessary supporting documentation for the application. Before Mondre' left our he home that night he informed us that that he would be off on holiday for the next week however his partner JJ from their company would be in contact with us regarding our application. We heard nothing from these gentlemen on Monday and I then proceeded to give JJ a call and he informed me that due to it being Christmas period things were a bit difficult on NEOTEL’S side in order to reach the promised Turnaround times however he confirmed that our application was definitely approved and that the handset was dispatched and that delivery would probably take place on Wednesday 24th December 2008. At approximately 14h00 on the 24th I called JJ to follow up on the delivery of the handset, however he was not answering his phone. I then gave Monde’ a call and he said that he would get back to me in the next 30 minutes.

After boxing day I called back to find out that our application was not actually successfull however there would be another process to be followed in order for us to have it appoved. JJ said that we would get feedback from him on Monday 5th January 2009. That never happend and i proceeded to write to NEOTEL ([email protected]) and their very poor response was "We at Neotel are very apologetic in the way that your application was handled but you application can be picked up on our system. I have checked the coverage in your area as well and found that you are covered only for the Lite device." This suggests that everything is back on track, our application is approved and it's just a coverage issue now. When I called into their call centre a lady by the name of Mapula refers this response with the reference number given to me to her team leader who was to get back to me the next very same day. This too did not materialise.

This was almost 2 weeks after our initial application (very far from the 48hr TAT that Neotel claim to meet)

Two days later mondre calls to say that our line has been approved subject to us paying a laughable "deposit" for the duration of 2 year contract. We refused and took our business somewhere else.

My wife and I were so optimistic and excited about the prospects on offer and were almost going to cancel our Telkom line in order to use the NEOTEL service. Luckily for us we did not do this yet otherwise we would have been sitting without a landline. When we were in the N1 City Mall and the NEOTEL rep asked us if NEOTEL could contact us from thereon in I was to be dealing with NEOTEL (even if an outsourced company was handling this on your behalf). Treating potential clientele in this manner is really unacceptable. As the official competitor to Telkom I cannot foresee NEOTEL making a real impact in the consumer market with the service standards and unprofessionalism as detailed above.

THIS IS JUST BAD!!!:(
DON'T BE FOOLED!
I'M SO UPSET THAT I'M GOING TO ARGUS ACTION IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS!


Hi,

Although, this most probably is the right place to post this story, you are mainly reaching members of this forum and most of us KNOW what chit service NeoPathetic is trying to offer.

Post this in the press like you intend to do and I suggest Hellopeter.com as well, at least you will cover more possible "suckers".

Pardon my terminology but right now only suckers will fall for the pathetic service NeoChit is offering.
 
The only comment I can make is TIA--This is Africa (This must be said in a fake South African Accent)
 
I can agree with Glkfrans,

I also applied and with a huge fuzz and lots of calls and emails, I finally told them that I am pissed off at them and this is not the 48 hours promise that I heard. And I want the device today. No questions or excuses. They had more than enough time to do nothing.

( I ordered on the 2nd of Jan and received today....)

The only thing I can recommend is be PERSISTENT. Call them everyday and complain and what finally worked for me, I told the operator," I am going to hold for your team leader. I want this sorted today. " And after about 20minutes I finally spoke to the team leader, asked whether he was informed of my situation and told him I wanted this sorted today. And it was sorted. They delivered 17h45.

*Thanx at the driver for making the delivery.


When I got the package, I saw it was checked on the 8th......

Took 6days for the device to get to me.....
Mmmm.... Perhaps it is not Neotel but their distribution channel?



Have anyone tried getting Neotel from Postnet? Please state your comments.
 
Looks like I'm stuck with my Telkom ADSL line for quite a while longer then. It appears all out hopes for a viable alternative to Telkom have been shattered. I must admit Telkom is slowly improving their turnaround times and customer service, whereas Neotel seems to be doing the opposite.

Maybe MTN or Autopage will offer the service that I should be receiving one day.
 
This is just sad that Neotel turned out this way! They could have made such a huge impact!

Like Heltel said, post this on Hellopeter as well...


If I may ask, what was the amount they needed you to put down?
 
Looks like I'm stuck with my Telkom ADSL line for quite a while longer then.
Maybe MTN or Autopage will offer the service that I should be receiving one day.
I'm no Telkom fan, but ADSL is still by far the most reliable, stable, and most responsive of all internet services available in our country today. You're lucky to be able to have ADSL - most folks are on some form of wireless alternative because either they don't have coverage for dsl, have had their cables stolen, or don't have the money to pay for it.
If you can afford it, ADSL is the way to go - no questions asked. If you cancel your ADSL, you most surely will regret it.
 
What about NeoFlex coming... was thinking about getting it, but neotel can take it and stick it in that orange whole of theirs. Until they get there act together, they are going to go the same way as iBust
 
From a potential customer of Neotel (wanna drop iBurst), I've got a few thoughts on this.

The issue as far as I can see is not so much the product, but rather the service aspect of their business.

I think as their customer base crew, their staffing solution stayed the same and therefore there are still the same amount of people to do more work. This is typical to most companies in South Africa. For service levels to go from 0 to 60% is easy, implement a few policies and procedures, catch the low hanging fruit, you know, the easy stuff. But to get your service level from 60% up to 80%, will start to cost you money, I think Neotel was in this bracket. BUT to keep your service offering in this bracket and gradually (It will NOT happen over night) move it into the 90's, will take a massive amount of focus, teamwork and money. This is where most companies fall out the bus, they then realise what is going on and then need to start building from a low base.

The product they offer will start to show signs of degraded service as more people join the network. I'm prepared to suck that up for a few months until mid 2009 when the new cable lands, but then the customer service needs to be good, if not excellent.

Maybe I too will just hang around with the devil I know for a few more months and see what Neotel is going to do to rectify small irretations that might turn into major issues (maybe even turn into Telkom).

Just my 2c
 
Glkfrans,

Are you sure it wat Neotel ??? There is no one by the name JJ or Mondre' working in the Cape Town office. Maybe log a call again for someone to scan for you, i can assure you the one person here that do the scans is very clued up. And he dont sell you the product, he works under the tecnical staff

Regards
 
Glkfrans,

Are you sure it wat Neotel ??? There is no one by the name JJ or Mondre' working in the Cape Town office. Maybe log a call again for someone to scan for you, i can assure you the one person here that do the scans is very clued up. And he dont sell you the product, he works under the tecnical staff

Regards


I know that iBurst was doing promotions at N1 City Mall. Never saw Neotel and I come there often.
 
Hey GlkFrans

This is all part of the special Neotel experience. Pricewise you can't beat Neotel, but in almost every other respect they are lacking.

I've always said that based on the policies that Neotel has enforced they are not planning on tackling Telkom except in the high-end user market (where the Big Money lies). However, this also makes them open to a lot more criticism.

I know that some people on this forum believe that people are too critical of Neotel. Well, Neotel doesn't pay my salary and as a critical consumer I have the right to demand good service :D

Don't ditch your Telkom landline in any event, Neotel's voice quality really sucks. When I phone people they think I'm overseas. Oh, I can also make international calls on my Telkom line WITHOUT paying a deposit.

I also think that the deposit that Neotel applies to clients depends largely on whether you have a good bank balance or not. Good bank balance = R1000 deposit for Neotel.

I think Ivy forgot to put in a clause about Neotel servicing the low end market when awarding them a license.

I will get off my soapbox now. I am sure you will see from this forum that there are a lot of Neotel users who are frustrated with the service they receive from Neotel.

B.
 
Oh, I have often confused IBurst billboard ad's with Neotel because their icons utilise the same colours. Then when I read the description of the package, I think "Neotel doesn't offer that package." What is it with orange anyway?
 
I have been a Prime member since July last year and I can also confirm that their service has gone from good, to bad, to pathetic. There has been a decrease in internet speed over the last week and I phoned the call center (and confirmed the call via e-mail) but have not heard anything. I have followed-up via e-mail but not even an automated response.
I have been a client of Neotel since September last year.
I will have to agree, their customer service is going down the drain with empty promises and various support tickets I have lodged and no call-back or follow-up with regards to issues. I have been experiencing with them.

I have to agree with you with the slow internet connection it is truly becoming a nightmare for some websites to load or just taken ages.

Some sites take longer than others to load.
 
So perhaps its back to the Devil we know! Telkom! :( I think RPM should do an article about the growing dissatisfaction of our second operator! - that could shake things up a little!

Tonight I'm battling majorly with speed issues. No errors, no disconnections, but just SLOW. 1 - 3Kbs...
 
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Yes support is bad but i can get over that because of how much i download , im with them for a few weeks ,the helpdesk support is bad but the techinicians are great , a techi came to my house and worked 3hrs non stop and did not leave till he fixed my problem

if anything is typed wrong its because im using a broken keyboard:(
 
Dear Neotel Rep,

Also caught in this trap. As they say...Better the devil you know than the Devil you don't so HellKOM I'm still stuck with you.

Still waiting for the trouble ticket to resolved... THE LONG ROAD TO FREEDOM
 
A rep by the name of Mondre’ came to us and basically told us everything we heard from the rep at the Mall. We asked that he bring a PRIME handset to do a demo of the internet connection and the telephony system as this product would best suit our needs. Mondre’ then came back the next and explained that if we signed up that evening that that the application process would take at most a day and if approved our handset would be delivered within 48 hours of approval.

We then filled in all forms and supplied all the necessary supporting documentation for the application. Before Mondre' left our he home that night he informed us that that he would be off on holiday for the next week however his partner JJ from their company would be in contact with us regarding our application. We heard nothing from these gentlemen on Monday and I then proceeded to give JJ a call and he informed me that due to it being Christmas period things were a bit difficult on NEOTEL’S side in order to reach the promised Turnaround times however he confirmed that our application was definitely approved and that the handset was dispatched and that delivery would probably take place on Wednesday 24th December 2008. At approximately 14h00 on the 24th I called JJ to follow up on the delivery of the handset, however he was not answering his phone. I then gave Monde’ a call and he said that he would get back to me in the next 30 minutes.

After boxing day I called back to find out that our application was not actually successfull however there would be another process to be followed in order for us to have it appoved. JJ said that we would get feedback from him on Monday 5th January 2009. That never happend and i proceeded to write to NEOTEL ([email protected]) and their very poor response was "We at Neotel are very apologetic in the way that your application was handled but you application can be picked up on our system. I have checked the coverage in your area as well and found that you are covered only for the Lite device." This suggests that everything is back on track, our application is approved and it's just a coverage issue now. When I called into their call centre a lady by the name of Mapula refers this response with the reference number given to me to her team leader who was to get back to me the next very same day. This too did not materialise.

This was almost 2 weeks after our initial application (very far from the 48hr TAT that Neotel claim to meet)

Two days later mondre calls to say that our line has been approved subject to us paying a laughable "deposit" for the duration of 2 year contract. We refused and took our business somewhere else.

My wife and I were so optimistic and excited about the prospects on offer and were almost going to cancel our Telkom line in order to use the NEOTEL service. Luckily for us we did not do this yet otherwise we would have been sitting without a landline. When we were in the N1 City Mall and the NEOTEL rep asked us if NEOTEL could contact us from thereon in I was to be dealing with NEOTEL (even if an outsourced company was handling this on your behalf). Treating potential clientele in this manner is really unacceptable. As the official competitor to Telkom I cannot foresee NEOTEL making a real impact in the consumer market with the service standards and unprofessionalism as detailed above.

THIS IS JUST BAD!!!:(
DON'T BE FOOLED!
I'M SO UPSET THAT I'M GOING TO ARGUS ACTION IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS!
Dear Glkfrans;

It is common practice for customers to go through a credit vetting process when applying for post paid services, dependant on customers credit profile a refundable security deposit is requested. The deposit is intended to give services to customers who will normally not qualify due to their credit profile. Turnaround times for delivery may be affected by the time customers take to pay the deposit.
 
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