Siener van Rensburg

Do you think there is merit in siener Van Rensburg's predictions?

  • Yes

    Votes: 49 27.8%
  • No

    Votes: 93 52.8%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 34 19.3%

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Are you suggesting that over a century of substandard education and opportunities can be simply wiped out in 15 years? If so, you truly have no grasp of the situation.



Can you give me a link to the exact prophecy?


No, i listed all the prophesies. You are welcome to read through them or you my use the search function whereby you can search this thread for the word "laken"


In other words, for the majority of the countries, the figure quoted is completely unverified and largely unsubstantiated?

The authors of the book are world renowned for their research in this particular field. I find no reason to question them or the methodology they used.



You obviously like stereotypes. Have you ever met a real American?
Yes, i have.
I met a number of CIA guys whilst they were building the American embassy in Pretoria.




Werner von Braun was Jewish?

No Werner was not Jewish. He was not American either. If i recall correctly he was a German. Involved with the German V 2 project.


Master Cain, so far, everything you've posted on this thread demonstrates that you cannot be bothered to fact-check a single thing you believe. Is this really how you live your life?

Please enlighten. You have lost me.



And, in case you'd forgotten:
Is there a comprehensive, verbatim, properly sourced & referenced list of this Siener's prophecies, in Dutch/Afrikaans? I'm sure people would be happy to translate it themselves.

There is a comprehensive, verbatim list of Sieners prophesies in Dutch/Afrikaans on this thread.
I suggest you read this thread and look for it yourself.

As far as sourcing is concerned, as far as i am aware, the original documents are in the Lichtenburg museum.
I doubt if anyone ever bothered to reference any of these prophecies.
 
No, i listed all the prophesies. You are welcome to read through them or you my use the search function whereby you can search this thread for the word "laken"

Thanks. Interesting list there. Not much use without interpretation pre-event though.

The authors of the book are world renowned for their research in this particular field. I find no reason to question them or the methodology they used.

You mean, apart from their book receiving almost universal criticism? There seem to be a whole lot of things wrong with their data, methodology, and conclusions. For example, the small number of countries they extrapolated to many more; the fact that they took other studies and averaged data; the fact that IQ tests are not standardised across all their sources; the fact that IQ scores are not really representative of much besides how well people do IQ test. And last but not least, they correlated IQ with GDP. That does not imply any form of causality, and even if it did, the causality would seem to be more logical the other way around (i.e., wealthier countries lead to people doing better on IQ tests due to beteer education, nutrition, etc.).

I met a number of CIA guys whilst they were building the American embassy in Pretoria.

And they couldn't locate the US on a map? Because I have a number of US friends, and they're pretty well informed and educated, generally.

No Werner was not Jewish. He was not American either. If i recall correctly he was a German. Involved with the German V 2 project.

My point exactly.

Please enlighten. You have lost me.

You've made a number of statements in posts where you've simply made statements, without being able to provide backup for them; more particularly, statements that are not exactly correct. Do you research stuff before posting?
 
This is my favourite prophecy:

29 Now
Twee groot snÿe brood met heuning op gesmeer kom na mÿ toe.

I'd say that this is a pretty obvious reference to 9/11. The great pieces of bread are the twin towers, and the honey is a reference to the land of milk and honey, i.e. the Middle East, signifying that something from the Middle East is coming into the towers.
 
You mean, apart from their book receiving almost universal criticism? There seem to be a whole lot of things wrong with their data, methodology, and conclusions. For example, the small number of countries they extrapolated to many more; the fact that they took other studies and averaged data; the fact that IQ tests are not standardised across all their sources; the fact that IQ scores are not really representative of much besides how well people do IQ test. And last but not least, they correlated IQ with GDP. That does not imply any form of causality, and even if it did, the causality would seem to be more logical the other way around (i.e., wealthier countries lead to people doing better on IQ tests due to beteer education, nutrition, etc.).

You are indeed correct.
Looking at the info from your point of view certainly cast doubt on the information.
To those offended by my posts ,i apologise.
 
This is my favourite prophecy:



I'd say that this is a pretty obvious reference to 9/11. The great pieces of bread are the twin towers, and the honey is a reference to the land of milk and honey, i.e. the Middle East, signifying that something from the Middle East is coming into the towers.

LOL! I love your interpretation of this vision.

Ever considered writing a book on Sieners visions in English?
It seems that there is a demand for it.

Adriaan Snyman sold 50 000 books in Afrikaans.
An English version would sell millions.
Just think of the royalties you can make.
An instant millionaire.
 
Hi
I quickly joined this forum to find out if you found Siener in english, sorry don't want to read all the pages. too late in the morning.

Anyhoo, I have two chapters translated into English if anyone wants to read it just pm me.
G nyt
 
They're preparing for war?

Oh god here we go!

Guys,

I posted this in a thread a while ago. We where hunting on a Farm in NW. And there was somekind of training going on at one of the neighbouring farms. Flares, bombs, automatic gun fire and so forth.

This is happening, I actually heard it myself. There is some very far right people out there. Don't be so naive ;)
 
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Oh get off this topic FFS, you people are worse than bunnies in heat.

huh?

I read throught the entire thread since I only saw it this morning.... Am I not even allowed to comment on one post in it?

Fk me mate, I know it's very close to payday and you might be aggitated because of it but seriously, get off your little pony ;)
 
Master_Cain, a question, if I may? Do you perchance belong to the religion that refers to itself as "die verkore volk" or "die israeliete"?
 
Master_Cain you seem to have spent quite a bit of time researching siener- I was wondering something- unfortunately my Afrikaans is terrible, so I cant look it up myself. I read an article a while back that seemed to indicate the following concerning the events leading up to the Boers regaining power, are they correct:
1) the white Afrikaans leader would hand over power to a Black Man that was loved and respected
1b)when THAT black man died, there would be mourning for 7 days
firstly is there anything to indicate that they were the same person
2) that people all around the world were mourning his death
3) that the uprising would take place in an election year

just a quick comment, if the Afrikaans nation loosing their land was Gods judgement for his people turning their backs on him, wouldnt it follow that the re-establishment of the Afrikaans nation, (and South Africa being a safe haven for Christians during the coming war), would be for God to once again be acknowledged by His people. If Gods kingdom is indeed the central issue around this whole series of events, and He is orchestrating them, then wouldnt it also stand to reason that Gods people would be the ones who are established, and not just the Boer, regardless of religious persuasion?
 
Ha ha ha this thread makes me laugh! You can read anything into most of those predictions. A bit like reading poetry at school... as long as you justified why you interpreted it a certain way you could never be told you were wrong.

Twee groot snÿe brood met heuning op gesmeer kom na mÿ toe.

I pretty much interpret that as meaning that he was getting rather hungry while making his predictions and he started hallucinating about a honey sandwich!
 
I voted yes, because I was bored.

btw I just saw the future in my dreams the other day. I also have these gifted powers.
Unfortunately my dog woke me up before I could finish this dream. In the next 3 months eat carrots, lots and lots of carrots and you'll be saved from "this unknown threat".
Oh yeah die bokke is gonna draw the next match against New Zealand.
 
Master_Cain, a question, if I may? Do you perchance belong to the religion that refers to itself as "die verkore volk" or "die israeliete"?

No, i do not belong to any religious grouping. I know of the Israeliete, and also know the basics of the religion. It is a bit far fetched for me as well! LOL!
 
Master_Cain you seem to have spent quite a bit of time researching siener- I was wondering something- unfortunately my Afrikaans is terrible, so I cant look it up myself. I read an article a while back that seemed to indicate the following concerning the events leading up to the Boers regaining power, are they correct:
1) the white Afrikaans leader would hand over power to a Black Man that was loved and respected
1b)when THAT black man died, there would be mourning for 7 days
firstly is there anything to indicate that they were the same person
2) that people all around the world were mourning his death
3) that the uprising would take place in an election year

just a quick comment, if the Afrikaans nation loosing their land was Gods judgement for his people turning their backs on him, wouldnt it follow that the re-establishment of the Afrikaans nation, (and South Africa being a safe haven for Christians during the coming war), would be for God to once again be acknowledged by His people. If Gods kingdom is indeed the central issue around this whole series of events, and He is orchestrating them, then wouldnt it also stand to reason that Gods people would be the ones who are established, and not just the Boer, regardless of religious persuasion?

I will try and answer your questions.
1) Siener predicted that a traitor from Vereeniging would hand power over to a black government. FW de Klerk was from Vereeniging. (His constituency was Vereeniging) Siener said nothing about a loved Black leader.

1b)Siener predicted that a Black leader would die and that the glass coffin would be placed on Church square in Pretoria. The black leader would lie in state for a period of 7 days. At his burial, as the coffin is lowered into the ground, fire would break out around the coffin and quickly spread around the country. (Serious riots) (The black leader might not be Mandela as previously thought.) Any state leader would qualify for a state burial in state.

2) After the black leaders death, people would mourn him the world over. Mourning in South Africa would be for a period of 7 days. During the 7 day mourning, dignitaries from the world over would attend the funeral.

Yes, most of us do believe that we are being punished for moving away from God.
Siener foresaw that we would take control of the country again. Siener also foresaw that Christians would come to South Africa in their hundreds of thousands, as this would be one of the few habitable places left on earth after the third world war.
Siener said that we would be ignorant of the third world war, and by the time that we realise that the third world war has begun, it would be far developed.

Siener predicted that England would dissapear as a country. Before that happened, however, England would be destryed financially first.
Germany would destroy England until even the English soil would dissapear.
England would be obliterated.

As to your last question: We would give shelter to the fugitives from Europe. Siener said he sees Thousands of white tents all over as emergency shelter for the people from Europe.
 
a questions...after reading the lat post regarding England.
Could the visions be influenced through his own personal ideas?
 
Ha ha ha this thread makes me laugh! You can read anything into most of those predictions. A bit like reading poetry at school... as long as you justified why you interpreted it a certain way you could never be told you were wrong.



I pretty much interpret that as meaning that he was getting rather hungry while making his predictions and he started hallucinating about a honey sandwich!

You may certainly laugh at sieners visions.
Siener predicted a food shortage in the cities. He predicted power outages at the same time. Also during this time frame he predicted that cars would be parked on the roads with their doors open due to petrol shortages.
He predicted that people in Johannesburg would only have cold Mealie pap to eat.
All this would start when a Black leader dies, after a very cold winter, during riots. (he mentioned that it would be the biggest strike in the history of this country.)
There would also be a shortage of food.


Sounds familiar? LOL!
 
a questions...after reading the lat post regarding England.
Could the visions be influenced through his own personal ideas?

His hate for the English might have influenced some of his predictions. There is no way of telling.

He did predict Ireland's independence. He predicted that England would be obliterated by a new German weapon and subsequently dissapear under the waves.
 
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