Siener van Rensburg

[LancelotSA]

Baiting? What a joke. Point is it worked if you think I tried to "bait" you. I was making a joke towards your reference to certain members opinion but allas you jumped the gun as usuall and directly defied a direct RPM instruction in your haste to call me a troll. I would rather say "Look in the mirror" on what you did with that comment in this thread and on second thought added your second post to validate your deed. Shame on you.

PS: I only changed the text as I thought it is better "English". So much for some real paranoia.

If you are so big on ensuring your English grammar is correct then perhaps you should also ensure that you actually say enough to get your point across. You spent long enough typing this post but earlier you were specifically vague to veil your attempted insults (which seeing as though you are choosing to name drop RPM, this too is definitely against the forum rules).

And when you post something which has no reference to the thread topic but attack an individual then it is trolling! So there was absolutely no jumping of the gun!

Your kind does not really interest me so go and play elsewhere.

 

[Freshy-ZN]

Lancelot. Could you kindly take your quarrels somewhere else? This thread is about Siener and you are putting it at risk of being closed with your off topic ranting and mocking.

Now back on topic:

I was just watching some doccies of Boeremag and other right wingers. It is suggested that these groups are trying to force Siener's prophecies into being fulfilled. Obviously this wont work. According to the visions it around the whole death of a black leader and the glass coffin and international mourning thing that has to happen first. If you believe in Siener then obviously the events will not be forced but rather forced on you/Boers?

 

[LancelotSA]

Lancelot. Could you kindly take your quarrels somewhere else? This thread is about Siener and you are putting it at risk of being closed with your off topic ranting and mocking.

And my original post was referring to that exact topic and more specifically the more vocal supporter of Siener's "predictions". You may do well to direct your lecture at the actual person who then chose to make this a me versus them thread!

If I do not agree with his views I am entitled to say so!

EDIT : This thread should probably have been closed long ago anyway with some of the things that have been said in here!

 

[Freshy-ZN]

Please?

 

[Master Cain]

Ha ha ha this thread proves that there are some serious looneys out there.... rather disturbing actually!

Then i suggest you find another thread to bandy your words of wisdom about.
You think we are loony? Then find another thread to troll.

 

[Master Cain]

Then explain to me exactly the point of visions of the future ?

Its it to torture us ?

No, the point of the visions is to give the Afrikaaners hope.

 

[LancelotSA]

Then i suggest you find another thread to bandy your words of wisdom about.

Please answer the question I posed above then....

 

[Master Cain]

"LOL!
You watch too many science fiction,time travel movies.! LOL!
The future cannot be changed.
Everything has happened exactly as predicted.( Thus far)"

You say that to someone, but you believe in an "Afrikaaner Siener" with a double "a"? Do you belong to boerevryheid or stormfront, master cain? Are you perhaps our white Afrikaaaaner leader that will save us from the "Swart Gevaar"?

How on earth has this thread survived the MYBB flame brigade for 36 pages of pure tosh?

<whispers>

Or is it like taboo or something to post in here? Are they coming up behind me or something?!

<runs>

LOL!
No, i am not a Afrikaner (note spelling) leader, nor do i have aspirations to be one.
You seem to be well versed with far right forums.
You tell me.
I think the reason this thread lasted this long is simply because i do not fall into the trap of some of the members baiting me here. LOL!

Lastly, you should know that people are superstitious, therefore this thread interests them.

 

[JHatman]

I'm reminded of the opening scene from the movie Braveheart when the Romans went to war against the Germanic tribes of the North, thousands upon thousands of tribes at war against the Roman empire which perceived them as primitive and destructive. Now look at Germany today.

Now imagine Africa as a continent sprawling with skyscrapers, magnificent cities and holiday resorts. Imagine a continent that has completely westernized, massive airports and hardly any crime. Imagine many hundreds of generations in between this generation and then, imagine an Africa in 500 years from now and how it could be.

A lot of people talk as if the way the world is now is going to last forever. What if another ice age hits, or a mass world wide famine that humanity will be unable to stop, or a nuclear war which a lot of us take comfort in convincing ourselves will never happen. How different will Africa be then in 500 years. Perhaps this will be one massive desert stretching from Cairo to Cape, or another continent of ice.

With our current technology, this thread could still be archived in 500 years from now. Imagine historians reading this and almost chuckling to themselves as they wonder what ever became of us!

wtb - time machine

 

[Master Cain]

Lancelot. Could you kindly take your quarrels somewhere else? This thread is about Siener and you are putting it at risk of being closed with your off topic ranting and mocking.

Now back on topic:

I was just watching some doccies of Boeremag and other right wingers. It is suggested that these groups are trying to force Siener's prophecies into being fulfilled. Obviously this wont work. According to the visions it around the whole death of a black leader and the glass coffin and international mourning thing that has to happen first. If you believe in Siener then obviously the events will not be forced but rather forced on you/Boers?

Indeed you are correct. I do not know if you can recall the false allegation that Nelson Mandela died in 2002. This false story was told by the group known as the Suidlanders. As a direct result of Nelson Mandela's "death" the Boeremag went into action. They went as far as to try and stage a coup starting in Lichtenburg, as this is the place that Siener predicted that the Boer leader would be chosen.
Well, we all know what happened to the Boeremag.
7 years later they are still awaiting trial on charges of treason in C-Max.
And Nelson Mandela celebrated another birthday recently.

 

[I am Penguin]

Now imagine Africa as a continent sprawling with skyscrapers, magnificent cities and holiday resorts. Imagine a continent that has completely westernized, massive airports and hardly any crime. Imagine many hundreds of generations in between this generation and then, imagine an Africa in 500 years from now and how it could be.

Yeah, Its all it ever will be, Sight, an imagination! for obvious reasons.

 

[daveza]

I finally plucked up courage to read this entire thread....

One thing to note - there is surprisingly little on the internet about Siener...why ?

There's no problem with my afrikaans and I've read the long list of predictions.

Frankly I think this dude was smoking some serious dope. His ramblings are all about horses and tin pots, wagons and bush fires and some sheep droppings - everything farm related.

Try as I might I could not find his reference to Princess Diana - can someone help me here ?

 

[Master Cain]

If you believe in Siener then obviously the events will not be forced but rather forced on you/Boers?

True, we have never started any of the wars on this continent. We are not warmongers. However, in a war, you are well advised to rather be on our side! LOL!

All over the country there are training camps for just this eventuality. Most are weekend camps but some are run on a permanent basis.
It is also a known fact that a lot of Afrikaans is spoken in most of the current war zones like Iraq and Afghanistan.
I guess we have to keep practising our war skills! LOL!

 

[Master Cain]

Would you be so kind as to show us the original context in which he made these predictions?

I am interested to see if he said that the declaration of independence of Ireland, for example, was to be adopted on the 21 January 1919 or whether it was some extremely vague reference to a country gaining independence in the 1900s.... And the same applies to all these "predictions"

In answer to your question.
I am not about to write a book on Siener for your amusement.
I posted all Sieners predictions on this thread.
You really should take the trouble of reading them if you are really interested in Sieners predictions.
Should you have trouble understanding Dutch, i suggest you visit this site:

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/

 

[Master Cain]

I finally plucked up courage to read this entire thread....

One thing to note - there is surprisingly little on the internet about Siener...why ?

There's no problem with my afrikaans and I've read the long list of predictions.

Frankly I think this dude was smoking some serious dope. His ramblings are all about horses and tin pots, wagons and bush fires and some sheep droppings - everything farm related.

Try as I might I could not find his reference to Princess Diana - can someone help me here ?

At the moment i am under attack from Lancelot. I have to humor him.
However , you asked nicely. Therefore i will, as soon as i have time for it, search for the vision, and answer you.
You have to appreciate that i cannot attend to you now as searching for the vision takes some time.

Siener was a simple man. He avoided contact with other people and had a small frame of reference. Therefore he spoke of things that he knew.

He joined in the Anglo-Boer war. He was sent to prison, and only went to church. Siener was not exposed a wide frame of reference. He was a simple man.

 

[LancelotSA]

Frankly I think this dude was smoking some serious dope. His ramblings are all about horses and tin pots, wagons and bush fires and some sheep droppings - everything farm related.

Try as I might I could not find his reference to Princess Diana - can someone help me here ?

In answer to your question.
I am not about to write a book on Siener for your amusement.
I posted all Sieners predictions on this thread.
You really should take the trouble of reading them if you are really interested in Sieners predictions.
Should you have trouble understanding Dutch, i suggest you visit this site:

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/

As confirmed by Dave he has a lot of ramblings yet you listed a definite list of things he predicted. All I requested is that you please tie at least one of these predictions into the ramblings so we can see how you drew this conclusion. It obviously required some interpretation on the part of the believers. Be so kind as to give us "non believers" a pointer...

My understanding of Dutch will be sufficient to make the correlation if one exists.

 

[Master Cain]

One thing to note - there is surprisingly little on the internet about Siener...why ?

The reason for this is simple. Most people do not like what he says. It is not politically correct.

Even Jan Smuts had Siener prosecuted for his visions.
Recently, two MP's had a fist fight in parliament over Siener.

All Siener's visions were either in Afrikaans or in Dutch. Sieners visions were meant for the Afrikaners. I guess the English never attached to much value to his visions (except during the Anglo-Boer war when they had to bore the brunt of his predictions! LOL!), and the visions were almost a closely guarded secret.

 

[LancelotSA]

At the moment i am under attack from Lancelot. I have to humor him.

Did Siener predict this attack?

However , you asked nicely. Therefore i will, as soon as i have time for it, search for the vision, and answer you.
You have to appreciate that i cannot attend to you now as searching for the vision takes some time.

I'll eagerly await your response to Dave.... and feel free to post the original text so we can translate it ourselves.



Oh by the way, I assumed this was asking nicely too....

Please answer the question I posed above then....

Would you be so kind as to show us the original context in which he made these predictions?

 

[LancelotSA]

The reason for this is simple. Most people do not like what he says. It is not politically correct.

You can find plenty references to what Hitler said online and most people did not like what he said.....

And I apologise if you feel this questioning of your arguments is an attack.

 

[I am Penguin]

Frankly I think this dude was smoking some serious dope. His ramblings are all about horses and tin pots, wagons and bush fires and some sheep droppings - everything farm related.

Mmmmm, I think I read that in one of his ramblings he refered to a herd of donkeys that would not believe or understand what he was rambling about. I think at least that vision became true.