Simple Stupid Question / s

[b@nD]

Forgive the confusion ...........

1.) A capped account is more expensive than an uncapped account because a capped account is not meant to be as severley shaped / throttled etc etc ( although people seem to be doing great on MWEB uncapped )

Is my understanding correct ?

2.) Speaking of MWEB -- what is the position as far as hinted Telkom line speed upgrades -- will MWEB automatically upgrade your account ?

3.) Is there anyway to get a SAIX ADSL account directly ( ie without going through a "re-seller" ) ?

4.) Which ISP has the least expensive least throttled / shaped capped acount ( that ALWAYS works )


Thanks

 

[hellfire]

Forgive the confusion ...........

1.) A capped account is more expensive than an uncapped account because a capped account is not meant to be as severley shaped / throttled etc etc ( although people seem to be doing great on MWEB uncapped )

Is my understanding correct ?

2.) Speaking of MWEB -- what is the position as far as hinted Telkom line speed upgrades -- will MWEB automatically upgrade your account ?

3.) Is there anyway to get a SAIX ADSL account directly ( ie without going through a "re-seller" ) ?

4.) Which ISP has the least expensive least throttled / shaped capped acount ( that ALWAYS works )


Thanks

b@nd, there is no such thing as a stupid question.

only stupid people.

 

[b@nD]

Quo Vardis

b@nd, there is no such thing as a stupid question.
only stupid people.

Thank you for the kind words
I however must point out , that it would appear , that you have placed yourself in this category
By not providing any sort of valid answer. ( to the according to you -- not so stupid question )

So to redeem yourself -- please could you provide some valid answers

Thanks

 

[vatteva]

1. True, though just because its capped does not mean its unshaped or traffic cannot be de-prioritized accroding to network loads etc ert. For that you would need a capped unshaped account. Many isp's resell such products generally used for low latency type specific traffic such as gaming on overseas server.
2. One could assume that, Mweb loves to shake up the market and pass savings to its consumers. It would be a healthy assumption that mweb would somehow use the Telkom upgrades to its advantage in some marketing strategy to garner new clients. I tend to agree with your reasoning. BUT you must take note that not all exchanges have capacity for such 'speed increases' and a major influx on syncing speeds can and will in some areas have a very negative impact on connection quality, packet loss and the list goes on...
3.Your best bet to be guaranteed to run on the saix network would be to purchase a adsl account from telkom direct OR a affliet that lists the product to run primarily on saix backbone. One could assume that due to there hefty investment in saix and sat3 that traffic would be routed predominately on that network to save on transit costs BUT due to many factors such as load on the network,fibre breaks etc etc traffic can always be shifted due to the redundancy they must have to ultimately ensure there users always have some sort of net access albeit limited due to some impacting factor.
4. I have an axxess capped unshaped account which i keep for occasional gaming but mostly for voip and video chatting to relatives overseas. Very haply with that product, but each has preferences based on there experience with a isp product thus one should hunt around for what works for them.

Good luck hope i answered your questions

 

[savage]

Forgive the confusion ...........

1.) A capped account is more expensive than an uncapped account because a capped account is not meant to be as severley shaped / throttled etc etc ( although people seem to be doing great on MWEB uncapped )

A capped account is more expensive because it takes more to manage it (accounting, billing, etc). Uncapped is also cheaper as a means to push the market to rather opt for uncapped accounts than capped accounts.

In MWEB's case, I personally believe that they are trying to move away from capped products all together and only supply uncapped adsl access... Just my 2c

 

[b@nD]

Contention !

A capped account is more expensive because it takes more to manage it (accounting, billing, etc).
Uncapped is also cheaper as a means to push the market to rather opt for uncapped accounts than capped accounts.
In MWEB's case, I personally believe that they are trying to move away from capped products all together and only supply uncapped adsl access... Just my 2c

I would have thought that Billing , Accounts , etc etc would be the same whatever -- cannot see a difference here !
The real difference I think ( rip-off ) is between so called "home" and "business" accounts.
The only reason one is better is because the "home" users have the guts throttled out of them in order to provide the "business" users with a "satisfactory" experience ! ( and make more money for the ISP )

I often think that ISP's are like used car salespeople

 

[vatteva]

No that not totally correct. You forget to mention that the business account has much greater redundancy, in the event of an international or local fibre break business account traffic is re routed with priority weather traffic from port 45xxx+ being p2p or 8080 http traffic etc. Certain protocols in normal working times such as pop3 or transit imap traffic are given priority over any traffic as email for instance is of more importance.

One cannot delve into absolute detail to what extent such shaping/prioritization rules are applied but believe me that added premium is well justified when comparing the extra overhead administration required to maintain those accounts.
Business accounts also generally have more than one static ip allocated with dedicated managed routers added to the monthly fee. This is not simply nated ip's they from limited range the isp has access to and comes at a premium. Nothing like the random dynamic ip's or internal isp nated ips given. Services such as dedicated hosting or cloud management is also given.

Theres a reason for the business accounts, other than unshaped p2p traffic (the traffic is dynamically shaped according to network load)...