Sleep Apnea

sal12344

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I have been living with it for over 10 years but the last 6 months have been hell to the point that I can no longer train. (I finished p90X once and its halfway through the second round that the fatigue really overtook me.) Before P90x I also trained with weights 5 days a week.

So after 2 sleep studies I have been prescribed a CPAP machine as my blood oxygen levels dropped to 63% whilst sleeping.

Anyone using one?

Basically what I am asking is does it work?
 
I have the F&P Icon Auto. Fantastic little machine. If I sleep without it I snore like a pig and feel like a zombie the next day. I absolutely recommend it. First week or so it feels weird, after that you cant go to bed without it.
 
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I have the F&P Icon Auto. Fantastic little machine. If I sleep without it I snore like a pig and feels like a zombie the next day. I absolutely recommend it. First week or so it feels weird, after that you cant go to bed without it.

Thanks 12k is a heavy investment which is why I asked. Hoping it gets delivered today. Doctor recommended a ReSmart machine but I am sure thats for kickback purposes and does not make it better than any other..
 
Thanks 12k is a heavy investment which is why I asked. Hoping it gets delivered today. Doctor recommended a ReSmart machine but I am sure thats for kickback purposes and does not make it better than any other..

My wife would go and buy that right now even if she had to go borrow that money. Currently its so bad that we sleep in separate rooms and I fell like crap each morning when I wake up.

Still need to see a doc about it and plan to do so as soon as I've done with some exams in a few weeks time.
 
My wife would go and buy that right now even if she had to go borrow that money. Currently its so bad that we sleep in separate rooms and I fell like crap each morning when I wake up.

Still need to see a doc about it and plan to do so as soon as I've done with some exams in a few weeks time.
:D

Manual machines are 4k plus mask and humidifier adds about 2k if needed.
 
This is what I posted on another forum last night.

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I've got severe sleep apnea. Obstructive Sleep Apnea is when the soft tissue at the back of your throat collapses while you are sleeping on your back and you subsequently can't breathe.

I could end here ... but I've got a very long story.

To make a long story short, (this is the heavily condensed and shortened version ) ...

I'm on the verge of having major surgery to my lower jaw to shift it forward to create more space at the back of my throat for the soft tissues (that are collapsing when I sleep).

I've got a relatively small lower jaw. Doesn't help my attractiveness one bit.

I'm currently sleeping with a mouth-piece that pulls my lower jaw forwards to create room at the back of my throat.

I will also be going through at least 2 years of orthodoncy (braces ... I'm 35) to correct my "bite" after this surgery. ------ Or I need to have undergo orthodoncy before the jaw operation to give me a huge overbite after which my jaw will be shifted forwards into the right position again to make space at the back of my throat.

We still have to decide which should be done first.

The plan from the start was to first do the orthodoncy and then the jaw-breaking operation but the problem is that the mouth-piece (that I wear at night) which they would have to modify to accommodate the braces on my teeth will work counter-productively against the aim of the braces.

I'm currently in a crap street.

This operation will cost me more than the money I have and will severely paralyse me with any future endeavours like buying a teeny-weeny little house and marrying a woman. The money I have saved up until now should have been going towards a fractional deposit of last mentioned.

The medical plan that I do have at the moment just covers hospital expenses ... and while these will the greatest ... South Africa's medical schemes are very selective as to the procedures that they fund. Mine is considered to be "elective" and not "life-threatening" even though sleep-apnea (especially in cases as severe as mine) has been provably linked to conditions such as diabetes and heart illnesses.

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I'm 35 and unmarried. I have slept with a CPAP machine and while the machine is noiseless, the flow of air through the pipes are not. Not even closely.

Secondly, I'm very claustrophobic and have tried to sleep with the thing for 2 weeks. I couldn't even come close to managing it.

Thirdly, like I said I'm unmarried. What woman who enters my bedroom and sees that machine that resembles a heart-lung machine will be impressed with me as a future husband-to-be.

I do not have the image, personality, character or charisma to negate this factor in the pursuit of a young attractive lady to be my wife.
 
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I havent read thru this due to being lazy. I am on CPAP treatment, have been for over 3 yrs, Feel free to inbox me if you have any questions.
 
Half (or at least a large portion) of everyone in here haven't even realised that they have got a varying degree of sleep apnoea.
 
Picard maybe a white noise machine could help with the noise in the pipes? I know it seems counterintuitive adding more noise, but the white noise thing really does work.

Doesn't help with the claustrophobia but jeez that operation stuff sounds wild so I personally would prefer the machine (easy for me to say I know).
 
Picard maybe a white noise machine could help with the noise in the pipes? I know it seems counterintuitive adding more noise, but the white noise thing really does work.

Doesn't help with the claustrophobia but jeez that operation stuff sounds wild so I personally would prefer the machine (easy for me to say I know).

Tell this to the girl with whom I'm trying to enter into a romantic relationship with.

She has heard me before.

She still respects me. ... I'm miles ahead and above her on an intellectual level (and she knows it) but a girl has got to like you before she is willing to marry you.
 
This is what I posted on another forum last night.

__________________________________________

I've got severe sleep apnea. Obstructive Sleep Apnea is when the soft tissue at the back of your throat collapses while you are sleeping on your back and you subsequently can't breathe.

I could end here ... but I've got a very long story.

To make a long story short, (this is the heavily condensed and shortened version ) ...

I'm on the verge of having major surgery to my lower jaw to shift it forward to create more space at the back of my throat for the soft tissues (that are collapsing when I sleep).

I've got a relatively small lower jaw. Doesn't help my attractiveness one bit.

I'm currently sleeping with a mouth-piece that pulls my lower jaw forwards to create room at the back of my throat.

I will also be going through at least 2 years of orthodoncy (braces ... I'm 35) to correct my "bite" after this surgery. ------ Or I need to have undergo orthodoncy before the jaw operation to give me a huge overbite after which my jaw will be shifted forwards into the right position again to make space at the back of my throat.

We still have to decide which should be done first.

The plan from the start was to first do the orthodoncy and then the jaw-breaking operation but the problem is that the mouth-piece (that I wear at night) which they would have to modify to accommodate the braces on my teeth will work counter-productively against the aim of the braces.

I'm currently in a crap street.

This operation will cost me more than the money I have and will severely paralyse me with any future endeavours like buying a teeny-weeny little house and marrying a woman. The money I have saved up until now should have been going towards a fractional deposit of last mentioned.

The medical plan that I do have at the moment just covers hospital expenses ... and while these will the greatest ... South Africa's medical schemes are very selective as to the procedures that they fund. Mine is considered to be "elective" and not "life-threatening" even though sleep-apnea (especially in cases as severe as mine) has been provably linked to conditions such as diabetes and heart illnesses.

_______________________________________

I'm 35 and unmarried. I have slept with a CPAP machine and while the machine is noiseless, the flow of air through the pipes are not. Not even closely.

Secondly, I'm very claustrophobic and have tried to sleep with the thing for 2 weeks. I couldn't even come close to managing it.

Thirdly, like I said I'm unmarried. What woman who enters my bedroom and sees that machine that resembles a heart-lung machine will be impressed with me as a future husband-to-be.

I do not have the image, personality, character or charisma to negate this factor in the pursuit of a young attractive lady to be my wife.
Well now you made ME cry :cry:

Cheer up Picard. Once the op's over you can start making plans again. I feel for you though :(
 
Tell this to the girl with whom I'm trying to enter into a romantic relationship with.

She has heard me before.

She still respects me. ... I'm miles ahead and above her on an intellectual level (and she knows it) but a girl has got to like you before she is willing to marry you.
:( Awe. I hope it works out for you somehow.
 
Wow I thought I had it bad..I get my CPAP tomorrow. I slept fine with it in the Sleep Study so the noise is not an issue. Doc talked about various ops as well but I don't want surgery. He mentioned widening my throat removing part of my tongue and a part of my pallette.
 
Wow I thought I had it bad..I get my CPAP tomorrow. I slept fine with it in the Sleep Study so the noise is not an issue. Doc talked about various ops as well but I don't want surgery. He mentioned widening my throat removing part of my tongue and a part of my pallette.

Did you perhaps see dr. #???

Did he suggest an operation on your tongue???

Don't do it.

I got advised (very quickly by many doctors during second opinions) that, that operation is VERY risky.

Regarding first-hand experience ... I phoned up 3 patients of that doctor ... after months of recovery they still couldn't speak properly.

Regarding the jaw operation ... I've been contemplating, researching and considering it for more than 2 years. I still don't have a conclusive answer. But something has to be done ...

But I don't know what to do. :(
 
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Tell this to the girl with whom I'm trying to enter into a romantic relationship with.

She has heard me before.

She still respects me. ... I'm miles ahead and above her on an intellectual level (and she knows it) but a girl has got to like you before she is willing to marry you.

Women really don't care as they know that most guys they end up with will end up snoring like a chainsaw - its like us knowing they will pick up weight (and that they poop and fart).
 
Did you perhaps see dr. #???

Did he suggest an operation on your tongue???

Don't do it.

I got advised (very quickly by many doctors during second opinions) that, that operation is VERY risky.

Regarding first-hand experience ... I phoned up 3 patients of that doctor ... after months of recovery they still couldn't speak properly.

Regarding the jaw operation ... I've been contemplating, researching and considering it for more than 2 years. I still don't have a conclusive answer. But something has to be done ...

But I don't know what to do. :(

No I know a few specialist due to my profession. I must correct my last post, he advised against it but did indicate that in MY case he would need to do all three if I WANTED surgery. He suggested a CPAP and losing 20kg. Said my neck too thick even though its muscle and not fat..Thought exercise was good for me.:D
 
Tell this to the girl with whom I'm trying to enter into a romantic relationship with.

She has heard me before.

She still respects me. ... I'm miles ahead and above her on an intellectual level (and she knows it) but a girl has got to like you before she is willing to marry you.
Shame Picard, I'm sorry you feel this way, however, if she really likes you and wants to be with you, it won't be an issue. Well, it shouldn't be an issue. I've suffered all my life, relatively mild compared because I don't think I need a machine or op, but I know how humiliating or embarrassing it is in the beginning of a new relationship but it was more in my head than anything else. My husband seldom gets a good nights sleep, snoring starts *blush*, reaching chainsaw proportions :o ,stop breathing, wakes me up, rinse and repeat. I'm not over weight nor have any jaw/mouth problems so don't really know why this happens but we live with it relatively happily. :) you will meet your girl! :)

Ps: when he is away on business, I still wake up every morning so that's why I say it's mild, I obviously start breathing again somehow while asleep.
 
Though I would give a bit of a follow up on my CPAP. First two days did not got too well. Had difficulty falling asleep. And then aat around 5am I would take it off after falling asleep at 1am. last night was different though/ I woke at around 8am this morning and finally I can say I am happy with it. I think it can only get better from here on.

Picard, if I think you too hard on yourself. If she cant get past that issue then well, she is not the one for you.
 
Tell this to the girl with whom I'm trying to enter into a romantic relationship with.

She has heard me before.

She still respects me. ... I'm miles ahead and above her on an intellectual level (and she knows it) but a girl has got to like you before she is willing to marry you.

Damn dude. That sucks, but I have to say this, if you're trying to enter a romantic relationship with this girl and she's giving you the cold shoulder because of the noise your machine makes when you sleep, you might need to accept that she's just not that into you.

In regards to the jaw stuff, I was also looking at having maxillofacial surgery but to correct a slight underbite. Basically it would have been the same procedure: braces, break the jaw, plates, realign the jaw, braces again. I didn't go through with it for two reasons:

a) the cost
b) people (including girls) like me, so despite the fact that I can't smile, it clearly doesn't bother most people

Obviously you need to go through the reconstruction work for other health reasons, and I have no idea what you actually look like, but I don't think you should focus on it so much when it comes to the ladies.

I do not have the image, personality, character or charisma to negate this factor in the pursuit of a young attractive lady to be my wife.

I'm 30 in March, average height, slim (but starting to get ripped) and I don't even have a car because my financial situation is pretty ***, so I'm not exactly boyfriend/potential husband material. Thing is girls still notice me, and there are a couple of girls who are interested in me even though they know all this (sadly the feeling isn't mutual).

The reason why I'm telling you this is because image, personality, character, or charisma can all be improved and worked on. My image has gone through a massive upgrade since I moved to Cape Town. My wardrobe also has gone through a significant upgrade. I now work out regularly. My personality is mostly the same but I have learnt to be more talkative amongst new people. Character... I've had girls flat out call me weird, but oddly enough that's one of the things that indicates to me that a girl probably has the hots for me (fairly high date rate with girls who've called me weird). Charisma... I'm smart, and that combined with a pretty dirty sense of humor gets people laughing so not doing badly in that regards. But again, this is something that can be developed. The one thing I do struggle with is working through the sexy-time stuff (I'm still really shy in this regard).

But again, assuming your an average looking dude (even with the underbite) you could probably work on the confidence and find a nice lady to settle down with.

Still, you need to go through the surgery for other reasons so good luck. Once it's done and out of the way I'm sure you'll feel better for it.
 
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