SNO may be be Eskom?

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Is anyone else bothered by the fact that the SNO may be Eskom? It would be amazing if we can get Internet over power lines.

Do we need another parastatal in this area?

How can that be competition?

Does anyone have any experience of calling Eskom's support service?
 
This subject did come up earlier. Some agree that it might work, others not. I would think if it becomes a reallity (and a proven technology), Telkom wont be too happy :D .

But it seems like there's still some issues with BPL.

Previous Thread about BPL
 
For one I'm more than happy about it. Eskoms service delivery outstrips Telkoms by orders of magnitude:
10% of the country has access to a land line, 80% have access to power.
South Africa's Electricity is the second cheapest in the world after the US.
Eskoms already spent billions on a continent wide fibre network (I suspect they can connect to Europe without using SAT3)
Every Telkom exchange needs Eskom power :P

In my experience their service is excellent. I had a prepaid metre fail at 10pm on A saturday night. With only one technician servicing the entire region (Rondebosch-CBD-Milnerton), the guy was by at 12h30 to replace the unit, at no cost to me.
 
TATA is the SNO, not Eskom, eskom is a shareholder, but they would be using most of the infrastructure of transtel
 
Tata owns about 30% (??) of SNO, their cars which recently came onto the market are apparently mass produced in the poorest areas of india (might be rumours), and finished off by hand. I'm therefore seeing an image of guys having to stop work as they ran out of chewing gum to attach the wheels.

Now these are the guys we shoudl worry about. Eskom is partly government but it's also big enough not to take telkom's &*$*. As long as they don't let JHB City Power in on the job (Jhb residents will understand this in light of recent power shortages)
 
I think we all would be happy about it. Any competition against Telkom will be great. And I'm sure Eskom have great service, though that’s not really the point here. When speculating about BPL there's two things we need to answer first:
1. Is BPL a well enough proven technology?
2. Is the SNO going to go the BPL way? (Personally I don’t think so).

If they go that way and they can give me a technology that works as well as ADSL and they ask the same or hopefully less that Telkom – then yes I will go for it.
 
As far as I know, the SNO wont be using BPL. There are massive issues with BPL that noone has managed to sort out. They have laid fibre alongside their power lines, but that is a totally different thing.

Secondly, Eskom is an incredible company. See what doobiwan said for some of the reasons why
 
I dont care who the new SNO is so long they help foster and push for stronger competition in the communications industry ...

Although only 1 SNO ? Suppose telkom has trouble with itself, we wouldn't want to get Telkom to messed up :)
 
sh1 said:
I think we all would be happy about it. Any competition against Telkom will be great. And I'm sure Eskom have great service, though that’s not really the point here. When speculating about BPL there's two things we need to answer first:
1. Is BPL a well enough proven technology?
2. Is the SNO going to go the BPL way? (Personally I don’t think so).

If they go that way and they can give me a technology that works as well as ADSL and they ask the same or hopefully less that Telkom – then yes I will go for it.
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Check out this Article.
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=27373

If Tazmania can do it, surely we can?
 
Slinky511nx7 : Tasmania has hardly done it. They are testing it. There are tons of places that have been testing it for ages. None have managed to fix the problems with BPL. And thus there is still no significant usage of it yet
 
doobiwan said:
Every Telkom exchange needs Eskom power :P
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OMS if this happens Eskom should charge telkom for the electricity they use ASWELL as for each adsl connection that uses electricity,so they can see what it feels like to be double billed for one product!!!

They should also make it 1/4 of the cost of a standard eskom power bill, like telkom does with the line rental being about 1/4 of the price of dsl 192.

Then they should cut telkoms power to do "random tests" and then tell telkom the problem is on their side.
Then take 12months to fix it!

They should also make telkom wait on a phone for 20mins everytime they want help. Play annoying music aswell. :p

They should then limited telkom to the amount of electricity they can use, as using more electricity than needed to run your toaster is abuse.
If they use more than that, they should be cut off, or billed per unit of electricity after that at R1billion a unit.

When telkom complain tell them that they must create forum to discuss their grieviances. :p
 
but them Telkom will TRIPLE bill them for last mile access, the CEO's will go play golf with the 3 cell CEO's. They will set new higher prices, laugh at the customers and tee off.
 
Eskom / Transtel has had over 5 years to build a fibre network, so I really doubt there's a need for BPL at this point.

My conspiracy about Telkom needing power is that that fibre network probably runs all the way up to the Telkom Exchanges, sitting there quite inconspicously until we get LLU. Then they can suddenly go "oooo look what we have here, how'd that get there? Oh well might as well hook that up to the loop . . ."
 
Some people in Joburg right now would say the following :-

It would be nice to get power through the power lines, let alone data ! :D
 
haha. yah here in cape town we never have problems.. well till this weekend with telkom.
 
Why is it that when people see "Eskom" in the SNO deal they instantly jump to the "WE ARE GOING TO HAVE BPL!" conclusion? Eskom and Transtel have miles of fibre, there really is no need to use crummy last mile solutions.
 
.. i dunno gues its the old way of thinking whereby if you own one company you easily use assets from the other to support it. Though nowadays thats not allowed or suppose to happen. I wonder when the SNO will actually be operational on a customer/residential bases and whether or not number portability will be allowed? i'm sure businesses will prefer if their number remains the same.
 
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