So which scripting language? Most popular, and the best?

[)roi(];16966701 said:
Poor targeting. Its not me making the silly claims. You missed the sarcasm; didn't think I needed to be explicit.
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I guess its because your use of the emoji did not appear near the text.

Poor targeting? Of what?
 
biometrics said:
What are these?
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HPC - high performance computing
LL - low level computing (operating system / compiler level stuff)
AS - Adobe's Action Script (a good enough language that died with Flash)
 
[)roi(];16966737 said:
HPC - high performance computing
LL - low level computing (operating system / compiler level stuff)
AS - Adobe's Action Script (a good enough language that died with Flash)
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Too many bloody acronyms, you could just have said that in the first place. Not like I'm new to this, I've been coding for 30 years. And btw I know three assemblers (x86, PIC and 8051), and have never seen it referred to as LL.
 
semaphore said:
I guess its because your use of the emoji did not appear near the text.

Poor targeting? Of what?
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Yeah didn't think it was necessary re my prior disagreement with his views; Poor targeting: "Paint a target for the Drone pilot" i.e. my reference to him providing HPC examples led from his argument that javascript outperformed .NET and Java.
 
biometrics said:
Too many bloody acronyms, you could just have said that in the first place. Not like I'm new to this, I've been coding for 30 years. And btw I know three assemblers (x86, PIC and 8051), and have never seen it referred to as LL.
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Acronyms are the bread and butter of computing; been coding for 37years and the terms LL(low-level) vs HL(high-level) were fairly common in late 80s around the time of 3rd and 4th generation languages.
 
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[)roi(];16966779 said:
Acronyms are the bread and butter of computing; been coding for 37years and the terms LL(low-level) vs HL(high-level) were fairly common in late 80s around the time of 3rd and 4th generation languages.
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I'm at 34 years, first line of code in 1982 in PL/I on a punch card, think it was a Sperry Univac mainframe at the time at Stellenbosch University (I was 13).

I learned assembler in the 80's and never saw it referred to as LL. Low level, yes, but not LL.

For the sake of those with less experience than us it's fair to write it out.
 
[)roi(];16966787 said:
If your opinion includes significantly reduce scope in the measure, then sure it will linger like HTML & CSS
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Perhaps you need to read the published design guidelines, your comments are unfounded. But here I copied and pasted it for you.

Is WebAssembly trying to replace JavaScript?

No! WebAssembly is designed to be a complement to, not replacement of, JavaScript (JS). While WebAssembly will, over time, allow many languages to be compiled to the Web, JS has an incredible amount of momentum and will remain the single, privileged (as described above) dynamic language of the Web. Furthermore, it is expected that JS and WebAssembly will be used together in a number of configurations:

Whole, compiled C++ apps that leverage JS to glue things together.
HTML/CSS/JS UI around a main WebAssembly-controlled center canvas, allowing developers to leverage the power of web frameworks to build accessible, web-native-feeling experiences.
Mostly HTML/CSS/JS app with a few high-performance WebAssembly modules (e.g., graphing, simulation, image/sound/video processing, visualization, animation, compression, etc., examples which we can already see in asm.js today) allowing developers to reuse popular WebAssembly libraries just like JS libraries today.
When WebAssembly gains the ability to access garbage-collected objects, those objects will be shared with JS, and not live in a walled-off world of their own.
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biometrics said:
I'm at 34 years, first line of code in 1982 in PL/I on a punch card, think it was a Sperry Univac mainframe at the time at Stellenbosch University (I was 13).
I learned assembler in the 80's and never saw it referred to as LL. Low level, yes, but not LL.

For the sake of those with less experience than us it's fair to write it out.
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These are common terms still used today:
http://hpc.uct.ac.za
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LLVM

Yeah, started in 1978 with basic on an MVS terminal, shortly after basic/assembler on TI99-4A, procedural basic on BBC model B, then C on a IBM PC, .... first job was on a Sun Sparc.
 
[)roi(];16966829 said:
These are common terms still used today:
http://hpc.uct.ac.za
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LLVM

Yeah, started in 1978 with basic on an MVS terminal, shortly after basic/assembler on TI99-4A, procedural basic on BBC model B, then C on a IBM PC, .... first job was on a Sun Sparc.
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I concede HPC as we installed our software at the http://www.chpc.ac.za/ so I should have remembered. Don't agree with LL.

But whatever, let's leave it there.
 
semaphore said:
Perhaps you need to read the published design guidelines, your comments are unfounded. But here I copied and pasted it for you.
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Dude this isn't a pissing match.
Simply said it's a pet stay informed project of mine; you're a little misinformed if you think they doing this to not significantly replace javascript's scope; just read this:
Doesn't sound like something that needs javascript to function; sure javascript will still be there, but IMO it's to assume a role more a kin to HTML and CSS.
 
biometrics said:
I concede HPC as we installed our software at the http://www.chpc.ac.za/ so I should have remembered. Don't agree with LL.

But whatever, let's leave it there.
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Lol, no worries.
I've probably been spending far too much time with LLVM re SIL (Swift's Intermediary Language); this compiler stuff is another mind f..k entirely.
 
[)roi(];16966845 said:
Dude this isn't a pissing match.
Simply said it's a pet stay informed project of mine; you're a little misinformed if you think they doing this to not significantly replace javascript's scope; just read this:
Doesn't sound like something that needs javascript to function; sure javascript will still be there, but IMO it's to assume a role more a kin to HTML and CSS.
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This is what our entire back and forwards banter has been about, you made a claim that someone who invested their career in front end development made a poor choice. Which was a poor assumption on your behalf.

I am all for web assembly, would solve a few issues for me as well. Primarily on the network stack.
 
semaphore said:
This is what our entire back and forwards banter has been about, you made a claim that someone who invested their career in front end development made a poor choice. Which was a poor assumption on your behalf.

I am all for web assembly, would solve a few issues for me as well. Primarily on the network stack.
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Yeah no worries, forums are always difficult places to avoid misunderstanding; twitter's even worse; hence I tried to lighten the atmosphere re "not a pissing match".
Guess it should be apparent I don't like javascript much; have written far more code in it than I'd like and probably still will.

Edit: plus I'm probably overzealous with WebAssembly; just sounds like a good alternative to shipping everyone an app.
 
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[)roi(];16966885 said:
Yeah no worries, forums are always difficult places to avoid misunderstanding; twitter's even worse; hence I tried to lighten the atmosphere re "not a pissing match".
Guess it should be apparent I don't like javascript much; have written far more code in it than I'd like and probably still will.

Edit: plus I'm probably overzealous with WebAssembly; just sounds like a good alternative to shipping everyone an app.
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Yeah, interesting times ahead.
 
scudsucker said:
Its good to hear advice from one so "experienced".

Tell us more about this non-type-safe, non OO, non-threaded, non-compiled language you think is "the future of the web", please.
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[)roi(];16966109 said:
You're not serious are you?
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Javascript already runs the Web. Add nodejs to that and it now runs the Web backend as well.

Please tell me how I'm not right?
 
Thor187 said:
Javascript already runs the Web. Add nodejs to that and it now runs the Web backend as well.

Please tell me how I'm not right?
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You said it is the "future". Take a look around: the only people that get all hot and bothered about javascript are web devs. The real devs with the skills to come up with a replacement hate it. :twisted:
 
Hamster said:
You said it is the "future". Take a look around: the only people that get all hot and bothered about javascript are web devs. The real devs with the skills to come up with a replacement hate it. :twisted:
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The thread said scripting language, none of these languages they talk about are scripting languages, so until they create an alternative I'm begging them to prove me wrong
 
Thor187 said:
The thread said scripting language, none of these languages they talk about are scripting languages, so until they create an alternative I'm begging them to prove me wrong
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So what exactly is "scripting"?
 
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