Solar panel installation

does your plumber charge R10 000?
just as an example i did a valve job on a compressor on friday , thats 4k for 2 valves on the final stage plus R800 labour and oil at R370 per litre .one valve had burnt .after that i found out i couldnt get proper pressure , a friend of his had tried to diy it and had opened the first stage piston to have a looksee , that cost him another R20k and a 3 week wait for the valve plate from the US .
 
just as an example i did a valve job on a compressor on friday , thats 4k for 2 valves on the final stage plus R800 labour and oil at R370 per litre .one valve had burnt .after that i found out i couldnt get proper pressure , a friend of his had tried to diy it and had opened the first stage piston to have a looksee , that cost him another R20k and a 3 week wait for the valve plate from the US .
look ,if you dont know what you doing then rather pay someone .there are a lot of people that have more than 2 brain cells to rub together so why not use them to save some money ,but yes ,i hear you ,lots of dumb people out there .
 
Awesome, thank you.
That is a lot less than the 13 per rail I got quoted (26 total per string)
What does your installer say?

Because when it catches fire or the hail turns it into shards your insurance is going to throw a party if they find out the installation was certified by MyBB lol
 
look ,if you dont know what you doing then rather pay someone .there are a lot of people that have more than 2 brain cells to rub together so why not use them to save some money ,but yes ,i hear you ,lots of dumb people out there .
yes i fully agree .now looking at that video , when that tile cracks because the cross support has been removed and you have a claim for new ceilings is the assesor going to moan .dont know .will the installer pay for the damages he caused ? the biggest problem right now is money is stretched , people are desperate for a power solution .fake CoC , i see them regularly and are easy to identify , the big problem is you think you and your insurance company are buddies .as the big boys are saying now , make sure the system is correct , the onus lies on the homeowner to make sure its 100% legit .
 
yes i fully agree .now looking at that video , when that tile cracks because the cross support has been removed and you have a claim for new ceilings is the assesor going to moan .dont know .will the installer pay for the damages he caused ? the biggest problem right now is money is stretched , people are desperate for a power solution .fake CoC , i see them regularly and are easy to identify , the big problem is you think you and your insurance company are buddies .as the big boys are saying now , make sure the system is correct , the onus lies on the homeowner to make sure its 100% legit .
since when does the CoC include the roof structure ?
 
yes, so CoC should be R2000.
for a basic inspection yes .but when diyed it could be thousands .the favourite is welding cable nicely tucked away in trunking .sorry no can do , then the homeowner gets upset and starts laying it on you . i just leave , sometimes cant be bothered .
 
since when does the CoC include the roof structure ?
no doesnt only the install .didnt mean coc in that way .you can mount panels over your whole house if you want as long as your roof is certified for the load , some insurers want an engineers report as well if over a certain weight .does your insurance mention that little titbit .probably only when the nok is on the floor .
 
What does your installer say?

Because when it catches fire or the hail turns it into shards your insurance is going to throw a party if they find out the installation was certified by MyBB lol
The guy who did the install at a family member of mine was not a certified electrician, he got a guy to certify the job, he has some trade theory and knows everything there is to know about wires and has plenty experience.

He had done plenty electrical work for us before but has never installed solar panels before, we all convinced ourselves there was nothing to it, watched some videos on YouTube and up we went onto the roof, he is a handy guy and got the tiles of in no time, we screwed on the hooks and put on the rails.

We were not available during the week so he got his own guy and when we came back from work the panels were on the roof. From there it was his turf, got everything wired up, the inverter settings is not his thing so that was left to us, we figured out everything and the system has been working ever since.

But I do get the paranoia if you are not technically inclined, it's much better to leave things to professionals.
 
for a basic inspection yes .but when diyed it could be thousands .the favourite is welding cable nicely tucked away in trunking .sorry no can do , then the homeowner gets upset and starts laying it on you . i just leave , sometimes cant be bothered .
whats the reason for welding cable not going into trunking ?
 
The guy who did the install at a family member of mine was not a certified electrician, he got a guy to certify the job, he has some trade theory and knows everything there is to know about wires and has plenty experience.

He had done plenty electrical work for us before but has never installed solar panels before, we all convinced ourselves there was nothing to it, watched some videos on YouTube and up we went onto the roof, he is a handy guy and got the tiles of in no time, we screwed on the hooks and put on the rails.

We were not available during the week so he got his own guy and when we came back from work the panels were on the roof. From there it was his turf, got everything wired up, the inverter settings is not his thing so that was left to us, we figured out everything and the system has been working ever since.

But I do get the paranoia if you are not technically inclined, it's much better to leave things to professionals.
What did you earth it to?
 
whats the reason for welding cable not going into trunking ?
not sabs approved for one thing for solar .some are ccc , when you look at the spec ccc can carry a high amp so people go down a size without knowing the regs and can burn your house down .thats one of the reasons only IE or MIE can certify a system and only if it has been installed by a registered contractor otherwise its just another illegal install .people argue it and change the laws to suit themselve , but when the tortoise hits the fan they complain .
 
The guy who did the install at a family member of mine was not a certified electrician, he got a guy to certify the job, he has some trade theory and knows everything there is to know about wires and has plenty experience.

He had done plenty electrical work for us before but has never installed solar panels before, we all convinced ourselves there was nothing to it, watched some videos on YouTube and up we went onto the roof, he is a handy guy and got the tiles of in no time, we screwed on the hooks and put on the rails.

We were not available during the week so he got his own guy and when we came back from work the panels were on the roof. From there it was his turf, got everything wired up, the inverter settings is not his thing so that was left to us, we figured out everything and the system has been working ever since.

But I do get the paranoia if you are not technically inclined, it's much better to leave things to professionals.
My insurance company asked me who installed the panels. I said I have the COC, and he clarified - no not the COC also which installer was it so that it can be verified that they're a registered one.

I just don't want to find out that shortcuts lead to my R300k claim going down the drain if something happens. Not that I could not do it myself if i wanted to.

We're in new territory here with so many installs in such a small time. Currently its quiet.

One good mass-hailing the size of golf balls sweeping through and the insurers are gonna be combing those claims with a fine toothed comb.
 
My insurance company asked me who installed the panels. I said I have the COC, and he clarified - no not the COC also which installer was it so that it can be verified that they're a registered one.

I just don't want to find out that shortcuts lead to my R300k claim going down the drain if something happens. Not that I could not do it myself if i wanted to.

We're in new territory here with so many installs in such a small time. Currently its quiet.

One good mass-hailing the size of golf balls sweeping through and the insurers are gonna be combing those claims with a fine toothed comb.
unfortunately people are clever and try bend the regs to suit themselves and will argue a dog turd under a bush that they are correct , but when the house burns down in 8 minutes flat , thats when they scurry around trying to get legal , then its too late . i get asked regularly to do a self installed systems CoC , i cant my business and liscencing are on the line .
 
The guy who did the install at a family member of mine was not a certified electrician, he got a guy to certify the job, he has some trade theory and knows everything there is to know about wires and has plenty experience.

He had done plenty electrical work for us before but has never installed solar panels before, we all convinced ourselves there was nothing to it, watched some videos on YouTube and up we went onto the roof, he is a handy guy and got the tiles of in no time, we screwed on the hooks and put on the rails.

We were not available during the week so he got his own guy and when we came back from work the panels were on the roof. From there it was his turf, got everything wired up, the inverter settings is not his thing so that was left to us, we figured out everything and the system has been working ever since.

But I do get the paranoia if you are not technically inclined, it's much better to leave things to professionals.
how did he get somebody to certify the job ? i hope you arent relying on a fake CoC thats not valid , because he said its valid , thats dangerous territory and could lead to problems later , make certain . insurance will get stickier and in the event of a claim , heaven forbid , you want peace of mind .just remember if the installer isnt certified neither is your system , look its no concern of mine but be wary .
 
how did he get somebody to certify the job ? i hope you arent relying on a fake CoC thats not valid , because he said its valid , thats dangerous territory and could lead to problems later , make certain . insurance will get stickier and in the event of a claim , heaven forbid , you want peace of mind .just remember if the installer isnt certified neither is your system , look its no concern of mine but be wary .
They work together, he sometimes work for the guy on some jobs, and sometimes he does odd jobs for himself, the CoC guy is the main man, pretty much like what happens with these jobs, you have the main man who comes in with his guys, they do all the dirty work, he inspects the work, if he is bothered to and certify it.
 
unfortunately people are clever and try bend the regs to suit themselves and will argue a dog turd under a bush that they are correct , but when the house burns down in 8 minutes flat , thats when they scurry around trying to get legal , then its too late . i get asked regularly to do a self installed systems CoC , i cant my business and liscencing are on the line .
Yep. its like that in many professions.

You just cannot take chances. For example, when ADT found out I installed my own alarm system once they said its cool. They will link their radio - BUT, they have noted that it was not done by a qualified installer. Therefore should the house get broken into, and should they not get a signal, they absolve themselves of all responsibility.

Now tell <insert big insurance co here> that you were broken into, and ADT didn't come and you installed the alarm system yourself so they will not take responsibility - and see what happens...
 
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