Solution to crime problems

One of the problems:
Crime conviction rates in SA
http://myadsl.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=48279
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According to the SA Law Commission’s report, the percentage of cases reported resulting in

convictions is as follows:
Murder: 10.6%
Rape 6.6%
Robbery with aggravating circumstances 3%.
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Just give everyone a firearm. It's difficult to commit crime if all your victims are armed and willing to shoot back. Don't create better victims, empower people to defend their right to live.
 
1) Become far, far stricter with illegal immigrants. It does not help a struggling country to welcome their refugees. Send them back to work on their own issues. We can assist those countries, but whilst foreigners are taking away jobs from locals and helping crime syndicates, it makes no sense to keep allowing them to come here.

2) Bring back harder punishments, like manual labour. Get the criminals to build our roads, schools and hospitals. Use the money saved for education, paying staff and improving those institutions.

3) Restrict alcohol use!

In Dubai, the most common punishment is to deport a foreigner, with a permanent, lifelong ban from ever returning. This includes just about all petty crimes. There are few things more frightening than the threat of being forced to return to your miserable life in a poor country. So the people who are allowed to work there, are serious about keeping their jobs in the land of milk-and-honey. We need to impress this on our visitors too!

They've progressed far beyond the other surrounding Middle Eastern measures of flogging, amputating or worse. This just frightens away potentially beneficial partnerships.

Yet, I felt incredibly safe there, knowing that people simply will not steal. Alcohol abuse is minimised, which I am sure helps to keep the place so safe.
 
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Good one flarkit !
Harser punishement is a very good deterrent. If the buggers have to work their arses off in jail, they'll think twice before committing a crime.

flarkit - are you in Dubai, or just being there recently?
 
I worked there for just more than 3 weeks, a month ago.

It was awesome to feel that petty crime was almost non existent - I'd say below 5%, as opposed to 35% or more in SA.

Even though the inner city housing consists mostly of dirty-looking apartment blocks, filled with labourers and the like, I walked through there on a few occasions at night, carrying a laptop and my walkman-phone. Perhaps a single, attractive female might've attracted the wrong kind of interest, but that's hardly petty crime.

Similarly, I didn't hear or read of a single robbery, theft, assault or violent attack in the whole period that I was there.
 
flarkit - what is their posistion on civilian firearms? or do they all carry those curved knifes rather?
 
Heh-heh-heh! Guns are strictly controlled, to my knowledge. I don't think private civilians are allowed to own firearms (what for, with almost no crime???)

The curved knives are pretty much ceremonial decorations :D

We're talking about a place that has some of the most modern buildings and infrastructure that I've seen, a city that's much much cleaner than any African city in my experience.
 
Dominic Rooney said:
People are complaining that other people are being to negative and not doing anything to solve the problem (although in proper countries it's governments NOT ordinary citizens solving the problems)

Anyway let's talk about some solutions

Farms

- Have the military patrol the farms 24/7
- Subsidise electric fences and barbed wire for farmers as they need to cover a large space and some won't be able to afford the expense

N2 Stonings:

- Again the military should patrol the N2, it was a very effective solution in the past.

General Crime:

- Police pay should be way better
- Little to no AA as being a forensic scientist or detective is a deadly serious job that can't so many unskilled people on board
- Make harsher penalties for common crimes (such as housebreaking etc)
- Make sure police have the correct equipment when attending crimes
- Use helicopters whenever possible when chasing a suspect
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Finally, this is the right way to tackle the problem, these are the kind of things you need to do to solve the problem, submit these kinds of suggestions to Government - track it's path through government ( it's difficult, but possible ) and hold them accountable for non - implementation

I have never said that Government is doing enough to stem the tide of crime, but they need help

Remember - Ask not what your Government can do for you, but what you can do for your government
 
JStrike said:
What is good about this plan :
1) Farmers are well armed and are willing to help other farmers
2) They are the closest people by far to the victim. They can get there in a couple of minutes
3) This can be adapted to proved dedicated equipment that works with cellphone tech e.g panic buttons in house, car, etc
4) Rollout is almost guaranteed. Farmers want a solution. Many organisations that will help (FF+, AGRI-SA, etc)
5) Costs are low. Both to provider of service and the farmers
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If my memory serves me right - Agri SA launched a service like this a few years ago - called Agri securitas - Im sure their website will have more information
 
Why don't we just tag every one and setup a massive satelite network to track every one's location 24/7. Then even with the **** police response times they can just check wtf was going on there yesterday.

Invasion of privacy the antichrist etc: who cares. The bottom line is criminals get away because they cannot be fingered or they cannot be caught.

Regarding removing the tag? hah make it so that you cannot buy without it nore use any public transport system. Remove cold hard cash from the system and give everyone electronic banking systems based on their internal tag + voice identification.

Technology is the key we just need to walk over some civil rights and sillence a bunch of religiouse guys that will speak out against it.

Problem solved.
 
Dominic Rooney said:
People are complaining that other people are being to negative and not doing anything to solve the problem (although in proper countries it's governments NOT ordinary citizens solving the problems)

Anyway let's talk about some solutions

Farms

- Have the military patrol the farms 24/7
- Subsidise electric fences and barbed wire for farmers as they need to cover a large space and some won't be able to afford the expense

N2 Stonings:

- Again the military should patrol the N2, it was a very effective solution in the past.

General Crime:

- Police pay should be way better
- Little to no AA as being a forensic scientist or detective is a deadly serious job that can't so many unskilled people on board
- Make harsher penalties for common crimes (such as housebreaking etc)
- Make sure police have the correct equipment when attending crimes
- Use helicopters whenever possible when chasing a suspect
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Well this all sounds just like a P.W Botha type of iron fist approach which is rather doomed to fail.

Poverty relief , jobs and social upliftment is the only way I reckon to stop crime.
 
tibby.dude said:
Well this all sounds just like a P.W Botha type of iron fist approach which is rather doomed to fail.

Poverty relief , jobs and social upliftment is the only way I reckon to stop crime.
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The problem is we need a quick solution not one thats gonna take 5 lifetimes of men.
 
I must say i've been hugely infavour of my doomsday antichrist tag every one in the ass with a microchip idea for a while now.
 
LOL you can even make the chips smart lol if the one is in the vicinity of another and the one detects that another one close by's "user"'s heart has stopped or is elevated like distress (or torture or somthing) you can have it call 911 and maybe the ambulance can show up in time(maybe).
 
Address the serious short-comings in our Justice System (Police + Courts + Prison) : join www.standtogether.co.za

There are plenty of dynamic solutions from alternative sentencing to youth diversion to private security partnerships and administrative outsourcing. All taking strain off and make our justice system work better for a Safer South Africa.
 
hmmm thinking about the advantages of tracking every one. Just think how easy it can be to isolate the cause of desease if you had a log of who came in contact with who.
 
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