SONA 2015

LEKOTA ASKS FOR REVIEW OF POWERS ACT

President Jacob Zuma should order a review of legislation allowing for the arrest or removal of people who create a disturbance in the National Assembly, Cope leader Mosiuoa Lekota said on Wednesday.

Speaking during the debate on the state-of-the-nation address, Lekota said section 11 of the Powers, Privileges, and Immunities of Parliament and Provincial Legislatures Act was unconstitutional.

It allows Speaker Baleka Mbete to call for assistance from the country's security forces.

"It contradicts the Constitution. It is therefore null and void," Lekota said.

"The Constitution goes further to say who is responsible for the command of the security services, and in this case... since your are the head of the executive, no other arm of our government can take that authority of managing the security services."

Earlier on Wednesday, the DA announced it had filed papers in the Western Cape High Court asking for section 11 of the act to be struck down.

The party said it clashed with section 58 of the Constitution which guarantees MPs immunity from civil and criminal proceedings for "anything they have said in, produced before, or submitted to the Assembly or any one of its committees".

The DA's court action, to be heard on March 5, and Lekota's comments, follow the removal of Economic Freedom Fighters MPs from the House during the state-of-the-nation address after Mbete invoked section 11 of the act.

During Wednesday's debate, DA MP Dianne Kohler-Barnard took aim at Zuma and Mbete over the deployment of police in the Chamber.

"The world watched the president chuckle in delight as the EFF were forcibly removed and I have no doubt he would have shed tears of mirth had our leader Helen Zille been manhandled, and if I was thrown on the floor and kicked in the face, breaking my jaw and nose, as happened to one EFF member," said Kohler-Barnard.

"The Speaker has seemingly taken over the role of the minister of police, ordering SAPS members to enter the chamber, protect the executive, and deal with those who disagreed with the shabby, shoddy manner in which our democracy is being treated by the Zuma regime."


Source : Sapa /cp/th/ks
Date : 18 Feb 2015 16:40
 
ZUMA WARNED: YOU ARE PLAYING WITH FIRE

President Jacob Zuma is playing with fire by singling out minorities, Freedom Front Plus leader Pieter Mulder warned on Wednesday.

Speaking during a joint-sitting debate on last week's state-of-the-nation address, he accused Zuma and his party of resorting to "scapegoat politics" to stem their losses.

"The Honourable President says a man called Jan van Riebeeck arrived here, and that was the start of problems in the country. I can prove the president is wrong. But what did he say in plain language? He said, when white people arrived here, the trouble started.

"What is the understanding of ordinary ANC supporters? They understand that if one gets rid of the white man, all problems are solved. Get rid of the cockroaches and all problems go away."

Mulder was referring to remarks made by Zuma at an ANC fundraiser in Cape Town last month, where he said "all the trouble began" in 1652, when Van Riebeeck landed at the Cape.

Mulder told Zuma to stop such scapegoat politics.

"I and the majority of Afrikaners and English-speaking white people, and all other minorities who call South Africa home, will not allow someone else to decide whether we are African and whether we are patriotic.

"Honourable President, stop scapegoat politics. You are setting a bad example. It's exactly the opposite of what [former] president Nelson Mandela did. You are playing with fire in a country that needs little to set it alight."

He questioned the ANC's commitment to the Constitution, and whether the ruling party would hand over power peacefully if it lost an election.

"Does the ANC really believe in the Constitution and democratic principles? I say no."

He told Zuma: "You are currently the problem. Please leave scapegoat politics. Respect democratic values and stop attacking and driving me, as an Afrikaner, and other groups away.

"You will not get rid of us. And you will not solve the problems of the country without us."

Calling for co-operation among all groups, he said South Africa was going in the wrong direction "to the benefit of none".

On Zuma's pronouncement, during his address last Thursday, that foreign nationals will not be allowed to own land in South Africa, Mulder said figures suggested foreigners only owned about two percent of the land.

"Figures show that foreigners own about two percent of the land, but their investment, their job creation and contribution to tax are much more than that."

Switching to Afrikaans, he criticised government's proposal to put a 12,000 hectare ceiling on land ownership, saying this threatened to destroy agriculture and threatened food security.

Earlier in the debate, Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries Deputy Minister Bheki Cele spelled out what the 12,000 hectare ceiling meant.

"I want to reassure the House, that the ceiling of 12,000 hectares does not mean that we will be procuring 12,000 hectares of land for each land reform applicant.

"This is a maximum ceiling set to include all commodities. We are aware that 12,000 hectares exceeds the average farm size. But as you may know, economies of scale differ among various production systems, eg grazing land for livestock producers need much more land than wine or maize producers.

"The 12,000 hectare ceiling is meant to cover all producers," he said.

Cele said government's plan to "protect" land against foreign ownership was not internationally unique.

"This, Honourable Members, is not a unique practice; many other countries in the world are advanced in this phenomenon."

"[In] the Republic of Ireland, foreigners (except those with seven years continuous residence) are required to obtain the permission of the land commission to purchase land, or hold a lease, mortgage or contractual interest, such as an option, in agricultural land."


Source : Sapa /rod/ks/th
Date : 18 Feb 2015 16:32
 
[video=youtube;COP-m9-bJ9U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COP-m9-bJ9U#t=38[/video]
 
Apparently the prez will reply today to the "insults" he received. Wonder if he will even bother to address the issues or just make up a bunch of crap again.
 
If Maimane genuinely means half of what he says, and at least half of what he says are his own thoughts, then he can have my vote.

And if that's the case then Zille needs to stand down and take an advisory role. Unfortunately the opposition will always use the excuse that Maimane is puppet for Zille to undermine him until he's actually the one in charge.
 
zolly said:
If Maimane genuinely means half of what he says, and at least half of what he says are his own thoughts, then he can have my vote.

And if that's the case then Zille needs to stand down and take an advisory role. Unfortunately the opposition will always use the excuse that Maimane is puppet for Zille to undermine him until he's actually the one in charge.
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+1

Zille has wanted to step down for a while now and I think thats partly why the whole Agang mess happened.
 
CITIZENS LOSE HOPE AFTER SONA: SURVEY

Thirty-seven percent of South Africans recently surveyed said they lost hope in the country's future after last week's state-of-the-nation address, it emerged on Thursday.

This was compared to 24 percent who said they were hopeful, consumer insights company Pondering Panda said in a statement.

"Sona has left many South Africans disheartened about the future of our country," spokeswoman Shirley Eadie said.

"While many South Africans were disillusioned about our political system before the address, Sona appears to have reinforced that perception. Our politicians have their work cut out for them to help restore the faith of the South African people at this juncture."

Pondering Panda surveyed 1466 people between the age of 18 and 49.

According to the results, older respondents were more likely to be negative about the country's future after the state-of-the-nation address.

Forty-nine percent of 35 to 44-year-olds said they had less hope after President Jacob Zuma's speech, compared to the 25 percent of 18 to 24-year-olds.

More than three in five respondents (62 percent) believed Zuma had not spoken about issues important to them.

Thirty-eight percent believed the speech was aimed at people like them, according to Pondering Panda.


Source : Sapa /gq/fg/jk/th
Date : 19 Feb 2015 11:17
 
Beachless said:
Apparently the prez will reply today to the "insults" he received. Wonder if he will even bother to address the issues or just make up a bunch of crap again.
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He already made a racial attack in response.
All the ANC can do these days is make racial attacks.
 
Waits for 'Point of order - when will Zuma #paybackthemoney?'

Then an argument about not using honourable.

Then reference to the honourable broken Zuma.

Then more argument.

Then statement that it was asked in the form of a question.

Then pushing and shoving.
 
Garyvdh said:
He already made a racial attack in response.
All the ANC can do these days is make racial attacks.
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Do they know Maimane is black? Oh wait he is a puppet of the white imperialist literally apartheid DA
 
Serious observations:

Nzimande has to be the ugliest person in parliament

And it looks like somebody has taken a dump on Mbete's top lip - can be the only explanation as to why she always has the expression of someone smelling something foul. Or perhaps she can smell her own breath?
 
Albereth said:
Serious observations:

Nzimande has to be the ugliest person in parliament

And it looks like somebody has taken a dump on Mbete's top lip - can be the only explanation as to why she always has the expression of someone smelling something foul. Or perhaps she can smell her own breath?
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Nooit.

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Garyvdh said:
CITIZENS LOSE HOPE AFTER SONA: SURVEY

Thirty-seven percent of South Africans recently surveyed said they lost hope in the country's future after last week's state-of-the-nation address, it emerged on Thursday.

This was compared to 24 percent who said they were hopeful, consumer insights company Pondering Panda said in a statement.

"Sona has left many South Africans disheartened about the future of our country," spokeswoman Shirley Eadie said.

"While many South Africans were disillusioned about our political system before the address, Sona appears to have reinforced that perception. Our politicians have their work cut out for them to help restore the faith of the South African people at this juncture."

Pondering Panda surveyed 1466 people between the age of 18 and 49.

According to the results, older respondents were more likely to be negative about the country's future after the state-of-the-nation address.

Forty-nine percent of 35 to 44-year-olds said they had less hope after President Jacob Zuma's speech, compared to the 25 percent of 18 to 24-year-olds.

More than three in five respondents (62 percent) believed Zuma had not spoken about issues important to them.

Thirty-eight percent believed the speech was aimed at people like them, according to Pondering Panda.


Source : Sapa /gq/fg/jk/th
Date : 19 Feb 2015 11:17
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but 62%+ still votes ANC...
 
Albereth said:
Waits for 'Point of order - when will Zuma #paybackthemoney?'

Then an argument about not using honourable.

Then reference to the honourable broken Zuma.

Then more argument.

Then statement that it was asked in the form of a question.

Then pushing and shoving.
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This all day... on point my friend.. hahahahaha
 
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