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I honestly do not understand the point of BEE, especially in South Africa.

You only have so many whites, indians, chinese and other non-black people, if you actively avoid hiring black people eventually you won't have enough people to run a company with.

But this is the problem, don't build and start new businesses no that's way too much work. Rather just force other businesses to conform to your racist policies and eventually drive them into the ground or better yet, think of some stupid lock down rules, bankrupt companies and thousands loose their jobs in the process.

Let businesses do what they do best, make money, by hiring the best person for the job. Once a business thrives, the community around the business thrives, hell that's how towns like Vanderbijlpark started and was a succesfull town up untill the 2000s and then everything went to ****.
 
ConfusedR said:
I will believe that they are serious against corruption and are trying to get rid of corruption when Jacob Zuma and Ace Magashule is in jail and that will never happen.
So corruption is here to stay.
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I beg to differ. To see those that have fallen out of favour being prosecuted/persecuted is worthless. What will show a real willingness to act against corruption is to go after the new "in crowd" including the current president.
 
VooDooC said:
I honestly do not understand the point of BEE, especially in South Africa.

You only have so many whites, indians, chinese and other non-black people, if you actively avoid hiring black people eventually you won't have enough people to run a company with.

But this is the problem, don't build and start new businesses no that's way too much work. Rather just force other businesses to conform to your racist policies and eventually drive them into the ground or better yet, think of some stupid lock down rules, bankrupt companies and thousands loose their jobs in the process.

Let businesses do what they do best, make money, by hiring the best person for the job. Once a business thrives, the community around the business thrives, hell that's how towns like Vanderbijlpark started and was a succesfull town up untill the 2000s and then everything went to ****.
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South Africa does not have a so called "inequality" problem. South Africa has a population problem.
When the ratio of all the races is 1 to 1 to each other, then you can start doing "inequality" investigations.
It doesn't help when 1 race is breeding like rabbits to get to a 8 to 1 ratio with the others and then cry out "inequality" when the 1 is employed and 6 of theirs are employed which leaves 2 unemployed. Ridiculous.
 
Ignoring corruption as it is in my opinion a lost case, corruption has become a culture, it is normality, but what really irked me was BIS. Not because of BIS, but BIS is already occupied by very rich black people, it is not a remedy for inequality it is for cementing the rich.

BB-BEE, I know it is going to be tight, I knew it wasn't long for small business to be targeted in some capacity or the other where hard decisions must be made, but I would appreciate knowing the end game now than later.
 
VooDooC said:
I honestly do not understand the point of BEE, especially in South Africa.
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Stop looking at what they say they want it to accomplish and start looking and HOW they describe it as well as the effects it has.

It's quite obvious what the point of BEE is.
 
ConfusedR said:
All these people will be jobless because they are either to lazy or to stupid (or both) to empower themselves to grow and upskill.
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I think we have enough people that could reasonably be upskilled to make sure they can continue to earn a living, but we've systematically removed all the things that would have made this possible.

We have no teacher training colleges. We have no community colleges. We have no way to offer people the chance to advance their education at a price they can afford. Student loan debt is growing.

Like, literally we have no community colleges: Community Education and Training Colleges of South Africa (nationalgovernment.co.za)

TVET helps, but having a look at what they have on offer, there's a shortage of skills that they aren't targeting - the same skills government has listed as critical for economic growth.

The first step to economic growth is fixing education and mandating a minimum livable wage. Having free community colleges that also skill you in new trades would be a huge step up from the whole lotta nothing we're doing now.
 
CataclysmZA said:
I think we have enough people that could reasonably be upskilled to make sure they can continue to earn a living, but we've systematically removed all the things that would have made this possible.

We have no teacher training colleges. We have no community colleges. We have no way to offer people the chance to advance their education at a price they can afford. Student loan debt is growing.

Like, literally we have no community colleges: Community Education and Training Colleges of South Africa (nationalgovernment.co.za)

TVET helps, but having a look at what they have on offer, there's a shortage of skills that they aren't targeting - the same skills government has listed as critical for economic growth.

The first step to economic growth is fixing education and mandating a minimum livable wage. Having free community colleges that also skill you in new trades would be a huge step up from the whole lotta nothing we're doing now.
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Bring back trade schools and apprenticeships.
 
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