'Sorry for injecting pupils with birth control'

ambroseg1 said:
Spot on. And again, I ask, me calling cops criminals which I can back up with many facts to support my generalising, is given a warning. The type of comment from Rouxenator is OK?
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I agree. Hence me doing something about it.
 
Neoprod said:
are the kids asking their parents before engaging in the sex leading to pregnancy? I'm guessing not so needing to consult their parents before going onto contraception seems silly.
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If the kids want it yes and got to a clinic to get it (I think according to law the kids have to be at least 16. If younger, then kids parents consent must be gotten whether the kids hump with the parents consent or not). You can however not go to a school and willy nilly start injecting entire groups of learners. Why the hell does this even need an explanation. Are you a civilised human being or some Neanderthal who lives under a rock?
 
Splinter said:
Let me understand this - you just made a comment about someone dying from this, and because they are black/poor, you ask if it would really be a loss?
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Poor - yes. You can leave colour out of it. In South Africa we already have far too many poor people sitting around being a burden to the state, only kept on grants to keep a corrupt state voted into power based on false promised.

So yes, let me make it clear in case you fail to to get my point, we need less poor people.
 
Baise said:
* sigh * ... hardly the same thing is it now.

Some people are just not capable to making rational decisions. Why is it so wrong for someone to intervene, for the sake of the bigger picture ?
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Ah, the bigger picture? Cool, that's basically the rationale for expropriating land without compensation - it's for the bigger picture you see.

I take it you cool with that then.
 
Baise said:
* sigh * ... hardly the same thing is it now.

Some people are just not capable to making rational decisions. Why is it so wrong for someone to intervene, for the sake of the bigger picture ?
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Human rights. The thing that separates us from animals? If you don't get that, then maybe someone else should've gotten forced contraception ;) ?
 
Rouxenator said:
Poor - yes. You can leave colour out of it. In South Africa we already have far too many poor people sitting around being a burden to the state, only kept on grants to keep a corrupt state voted into power based on false promised.

So yes, let me make it clear in case you fail to to get my point, we need less poor people.
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By killing them off if necessary? Must admit, as much as I disagree with you, arguing with you is refreshing :crylaugh:
 
ambroseg1 said:
Human rights. The thing that separates us from animals? If you don't get that, then maybe someone else should've gotten forced contraception ;) ?
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Well if according to human rights we are the same then why do heads of state get bodyguards and such good protection and the rest of us get incompetent police?

Quit fooling yourself.
 
Rouxenator said:
Poor - yes. You can leave colour out of it. In South Africa we already have far too many poor people sitting around being a burden to the state, only kept on grants to keep a corrupt state voted into power based on false promised.

So yes, let me make it clear in case you fail to to get my point, we need less poor people.
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Umm, not that advocating death for the poor is any less abhorrent, you seem to happily overlook that the vast majority of "poor" people are from race groups other than white...

And I cannot believe you just put in writing, again, that you ok for disadvantaged to die based on illegal birth control methods.

Unreal. Beyond moronic.
 
ambroseg1 said:
By killing them off if necessary? Must admit, as much as I disagree with you, arguing with you is refreshing :crylaugh:
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The intention of injecting them with birth control was not to kill them, only to prevent unwanted pregnancy thereby greatly reducing whatever chances these kids had to a good life, not to mention the quality of life their offspring can expect.
 
Splinter said:
Ah, the bigger picture? Cool, that's basically the rationale for expropriating land without compensation - it's for the bigger picture you see.

I take it you cool with that then.
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You need to start drawing more accurate comparisons.

What exactly has been taken away from these learners ? I'm pretty sure the article said birth control, and not sterilization.
 
ambroseg1 said:
If the kids want it yes and got to a clinic to get it (I think according to law the kids have to be at least 16. If younger, then kids parents consent must be gotten whether the kids hump with the parents consent or not). You can however not go to a school and willy nilly start injecting entire groups of learners. Why the hell does this even need an explanation. Are you a civilised human being or some Neanderthal who lives under a rock?
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woah, show me the post where I supported the department's actions.

until then, how about you take a chill pill...you sound like you're about to pop a blood vessel.
 
Baise said:
You need to start drawing more accurate comparisons.

What exactly has been taken away from these learners ? I'm pretty sure the article said birth control, and not sterilization.
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My comparison is spot on, thanks. You advocate breaking the law for the bigger picture - it's the same thing.
 
Rouxenator said:
The intention of injecting them with birth control was not to kill them, only to prevent unwanted pregnancy thereby greatly reducing whatever chances these kids had to a good life, not to mention the quality of life their offspring can expect.
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There's potential for complications if this is done without knowledge of the girls' medical history
 
Rouxenator said:
Perhaps because most of the commentators here have "wife/girlfriend/daughters/cousins/friends and other family" that contribute towards the economy and are capable of producing offspring who will do the same. Not so much the case with the poorest of the poor that are already living of grants, a burden to the country, reproducing and increasing the burden?
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Sure, but if we prevent the contributors from breeding then there will be more to go around for everyone else and the poorest of the poor might finally get to share the wealth. Plus, as an added advantage, we can solve the race problem here by not letting white people breed, will only take a generation, and they don't even have to know what was done.
 
Neoprod said:
woah, show me the post where I supported the department's actions.

until then, how about you take a chill pill...you sound like you're about to pop a blood vessel.
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Apologies. Stupid makes mad.
 
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