'South Korea will remove evolution from its high school textbooks'

I meant of course literal YEC Genesis style creationism and yes I mean it is a myth just like the Greek gods, the Norse pantheon, the Tokoloshe, Jesus and all the other religious figures. If it makes people uncomfortable to have their particular beliefs compared to other mythological entities then frankly that is their problem not mine because I see no reason why the religious beliefs of the day are any more or less valid than those that came before.
Hold on, are you a myther when it comes to Jesus? I.e. you don't think Jesus ever existed as a person (not necessarily as God as most Christians believe)?
 
Hold on, are you a myther when it comes to Jesus? I.e. you don't think Jesus ever existed as a person (not necessarily as God as most Christians believe)?
What? :confused:

I just regard his story of being the son of a god and performing miracles and schit as no more or less credible than Greek mythology or the Norse pantheon... or any other myth for that matter.

Whether or not some mook named Jesus happened to exist is neither here nor there.

Regardless this has nothing to do with the thread so lets not derail it OK. You have already done that once with yet another fitness definition mess please don't do it twice in the same thread.
 
What? :confused:

I just regard his story of being the son of a god and performing miracles and schit as no more or less credible than Greek mythology or the Norse pantheon... or any other myth for that matter.

Whether or not some mook named Jesus happened to exist is neither here nor there.

Regardless this has nothing to do with the thread so lets not derail it OK. You have already done that once with yet another fitness definition mess please don't do it twice in the same thread.
Just checking. There are some people who think Jesus did not even exist as a person.

Oh, you should be the last person to "lecture" others on derailing threads lol ;). Btw, you moan about talk about the concept of fitness being discussed in a thread about evolution being taught in science classes. I think you would agree that you can't teach something if you don't have a proper definition for it or at least have a clue what the debate surrounding the definition is all about. Do you?
 
Hold on, are you a myther when it comes to Jesus? I.e. you don't think Jesus ever existed as a person (not necessarily as God as most Christians believe)?

technically Jesus is a myth, he was based on a real person however as i'm sure you wouldn't call Yeshua greek or someone capable of rising from the dead
 
In that case my original statement stands , your first living creature came from nothing?
Abiogenesis doesn't make that claim. Creationism does though.

They're not interlinked? The Big Bang says nothing about evolution and vice versa.
The big bang itself doesn't claim the universe came from nothing. Science makes no statement on where the material originated.
 
Just checking. There are some people who think Jesus did not even exist as a person.
Meh doesn't really matter to me whether some dude named Jesus happened to exist or not. Existing and being the son of a god are two entirely separate things.


Oh, you should be the last person to "lecture" others on derailing threads lol ;). Btw, you moan about talk about the concept of fitness being discussed in a thread about evolution being taught in science classes. I think you would agree that you can't teach something if you don't have a proper definition for it or at least have a clue what the debate surrounding the definition is all about. Do you?
That particular topic is not dealt with in high school science classes just as the species problem isn't. You know it and I know it. I know you get a stiffie just thinking about starting yet another debate on the definition fitness this week but I don't care, in this case it is irrelevant. Twice is more than enough for one week don't you think Phrones.
 
Yeah, it's strange...some people even think a person can form from a single cell in the space of a few months...

Preposterous :rolleyes:
As I recall we didn't know much, if anything, about how that worked when I was a child. Our inability to explain it was held up as an example of our magical origins.
 
Since we have both stopped arguing I proclaim I won. Seeing that I have proven that your theory claims something namely the common ancestor cmae from nothing.

I win on logic not blindly following ,Ironic considering that it's not a scientific thing this blindely following.

LOL!

"I won because I clearly do not understand your stupid evolution!"
 
Amen brother. We don't need to grasp evolution. Let's piss these atheists off until they start linking us articles that explains evolution, then ignore that too to piss them more off ... Eventually they will see by our stoic cunning that we are the right ones in the argument.

Us evolution deniers need a slogan:
Deny deny deny that's our alibi!

:rolleyes:
 
20 pages of thread posts and nothing much said...

I still don't understand why:
1. Evolution is pitted against religious ideas of creation.
2. Many people refuse to follow the theory of evolution's broad assertions. It is so beautifully logical and is backed by empirical evidence ranging over a wide spectrum of scientific fields.
3. Why religious apologists attack scientific endeavors attempting to understand and explain natural phenomena, when their real enemy should be other competing religious views. After all, only one religion can be right...
 
20 pages of thread posts and nothing much said...

I still don't understand why:
1. Evolution is pitted against religious ideas of creation.
2. Many people refuse to follow the theory of evolution's broad assertions. It is so beautifully logical and is backed by empirical evidence ranging over a wide spectrum of scientific fields.
3. Why religious apologists attack scientific endeavors attempting to understand and explain natural phenomena, when their real enemy should be other competing religious views. After all, only one religion can be right...

Good post!
 
20 pages of thread posts and nothing much said...

I still don't understand why:
1. Evolution is pitted against religious ideas of creation.
2. Many people refuse to follow the theory of evolution's broad assertions. It is so beautifully logical and is backed by empirical evidence ranging over a wide spectrum of scientific fields.
3. Why religious apologists attack scientific endeavors attempting to understand and explain natural phenomena, when their real enemy should be other competing religious views. After all, only one religion can be right...

1. The whole "man created in Gods image bit". No one wants a monkey god. :D
2. To many implications regarding creation myths. If you want to take them literal. And sooo much work.
3. That's not PC right now. Notice how none of the "teach both" crowd answer questions as to which religions should be taught with science. Guess why not. And besides, science is easy 'cause it's open to new new interpretation when new data is presented. They just fail to realise the data has to come from more than one source.
 
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That particular topic is not dealt with in high school science classes just as the species problem isn't. You know it and I know it.I know you get a stiffie just thinking about starting yet another debate on the definition fitness this week but I don't care, in this case it is irrelevant. Twice is more than enough for one week don't you think Phrones.
I am pretty sure they talk about natural selection. Fitness is relevant, you just don't want it to be.
 
3. That's not PC right now. Notice how none of the "teach both" crowd answer questions as to which religions should be taught with science. Guess why not. And besides, science is easy 'cause it's open to new new interpretation when new data is presented. They just fail to realise the data has to come from more than one source.
How about this one?
In the Maya creation story of the Popol Vuh, we are told that the decapitated head of the Hero Twins father Hun Hunahpu after being sacrificed in the Underworld by the Lords of Xibalba, after a ballgame, was placed in a tree, and that the daughter of one of the Lords of Xibalba named Xquic becomes impregnated when she visits the decapitated head for herself, and that the severed head of Hun Hunahpu spits in the palm of her hand, impregnating her, thus creating the miraculous birth of the legendary Hero Twins. According to Wasson (in Furst 1976, p.85) divine spittle is also related to the origin of the Amanita mushroom in Siberia.

We also are told in the Popol Vuh that one of the creator gods named Gucumatz, whose name literally means feathered serpent, (the Quiche Mayan translation of Quetzalcoatl) created the earth, raised the sky, and fashioned humans from maize.
 
Gucumatz, whose name literally means feathered serpent
You see!
Evidence right there!
The latest evidence suggests Velociraptor had feathers! Thus! Popol Vuh is plausable!

You know what's funny as well?
When the Big Bang Theory was first suggested the creationists rejoiced. Finally there was serious evidence for creation! But somewhere along the along the line the time scales became an issue and evil it became.
 
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Nothing much left to say.
 
Next stop, the US of A. Actually this might present a bit of a conundrum to the conservative, religious Rick Santorum-voting types. Will they be willing to admit they're going the same thing as the "terrorist" North Koreans?

Which will win out, their massive hatred of the enemies of Amuhrrka and freedom or their massive hatred of nature not fitting in with their ancient myths?
Which will win out? Your inability to parse basic sentences is an embarrassment, no? To surf the evo wave you need to read better.

With foes like you, Americans can sleep without fear.
 
Which will win out? Your inability to parse basic sentences is an embarrassment, no? To surf the evo wave you need to read better.

With foes like you, Americans can sleep without fear.

Already apologised for my mistake, and the OP also made it, you will see it's been edited to show South now. Dumb**** troll.
 
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