Spar believes worst SAP deployment problems behind them

[Cray]

Also its when you start bringing in "Business Analysts" who by and large don't have a fscking clue and create bollocks process flows that just makes things more complicated than they need to be.

So true!

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

Also its when you start bringing in "Business Analysts" who by and large don't have a fscking clue and create bollocks process flows that just makes things more complicated than they need to be.

At least they create process flows. Most of the ones I've come across type up a list of one-line requirements in a Word document and that's their job done...

 

[ToxicBunny]

At least they create process flows. Most of the ones I've come across type up a list of one-line requirements in a Word document and that's their job done...

I'd be fine with that tbh, it would let the smart people actually do the process flow properly

 

[Memnoch]

The best thing about SAP is it's sales department. They can convince any company that SAP will be a drop in fit, with only minor changes, we have a package for everything, it will save you so much money, cutting edge, come on, you know you want some, everyone is doing it. Bean counters lap it up. Five years later you are broke and sitting on the pavement wondering what just happened, and then like in any good abusive relationship, SAP blames you.

 

[Zuluzebra]

The best thing about SAP is it's sales department. They can convince any company that SAP will be a drop in fit, with only minor changes, we have a package for everything, it will save you so much money, cutting edge, come on, you know you want some, everyone is doing it. Bean counters lap it up. Five years later you are broke and sitting on the pavement wondering what just happened, and then like in any good abusive relationship, SAP blames you.

I have never seen SAP blame anyone, always the customer trying to cut corners and employ their own cadres (looking at you COJ!) that implementations fail.

 

[Memnoch]

I have never seen SAP blame anyone, always the customer trying to cut corners and employ their own cadres (looking at you COJ!) that implementations fail.

And yet you just did.

You also have to be careful about what a SAP consultant considers a "successful" implementation. Two months of your company being dead in the water while they iron out the "wrinkles" is considered a success.

 

[Sapphiron]

Also its when you start bringing in "Business Analysts" who by and large don't have a fscking clue and create bollocks process flows that just makes things more complicated than they need to be.

As a business analyst, I fully agree.

 

[Zuluzebra]

And yet you just did.

You also have to be careful about what a SAP consultant considers a "successful" implementation. Two months of your company being dead in the water while they iron out the "wrinkles" is considered a success.

I just did what?

 

[OhYeah84]

And yet you just did.

You also have to be careful about what a SAP consultant considers a "successful" implementation. Two months of your company being dead in the water while they iron out the "wrinkles" is considered a success.

If they consider it a success and are still ironing out the wrinkles, then you chose the wrong partner.

 

[Cheens]

So being a business analyst for over 10 years now, I see this time and time again but in most cases its because that's what the business wants. Even when the BA recommends they don't do that and backs it up with research, the business is more like "I know what i want so just document it". I've been through this soo many times and have said the "I told you so" soo many times. Then BA's get the blame and the bad rep. Many cases of "CEO said so" so just do it. Even got worked out of a job for not wanting to "just do what you're told". So now, as an independent contractor, I just do what they ask, don't question, throw in an idea here and there and just make sure requirements are future ready for when the tech catches up.