Spin-off discussion from the Syrian Conflict Thread

sure, but it does always accompany the killing of others - why ?
Probably because they're admitting to themselves that only God can truly judge the worthiness of their actions, along with the hope that what they're doing is right/just.

I don't think it's easy for most human beings to just kill others, regardless of how much hatred they've been indoctrinated with.

Edit: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-...after-al-qaeda-calls-jihad-against-russian-ci

Clear case here, note how he says "with God's permission". I believe that's very close to the meaning of Allahu Akbar.
 
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Which also explains his false interpretation in his signature.

I have another message from your Saviour.

Luke 19:27 But as for these enemies of mine who did not want me to be their king, bring them here and slaughter them in front of me!'" (Is there where ISIS gets their inspiration from?)

28 After Jesus had said this, he continued on ahead, going up to Jerusalem.
 
you know nothing of what i may think or read.
you are a case study of islamist brainwashing

religion is the weapon of mass destruction in the middle east

Tell that to mass killers US and Russia. I don't see them killing Bible in hand.
 
I have another message from your Saviour.

Luke 19:27 But as for these enemies of mine who did not want me to be their king, bring them here and slaughter them in front of me!'" (Is there where ISIS gets their inspiration from?)

28 After Jesus had said this, he continued on ahead, going up to Jerusalem.

seems you're hell bent of trying to derail this thread.

here - from your book of hatred:

2:65 Allah transforms disobedient Jews into apes
“And well you know there were those among you [Jews] that transgressed the Sabbath, and We said to them, “˜Be you apes, miserably slinking!”

2:191-193 Fight and kill unbelievers until “religion is Allah’s,” i.e. Islamic law rules all societies
“And slay them wherever you come upon them, and expel them from where they expelled you; persecution is more grievous than slaying. But fight them not by the Holy Mosque until they should fight you there; then, if they fight you, slay them — such is the recompense of unbelievers, but if they give over, surely Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate. Fight them, till there is no persecution and the religion is Allah’s; then if they give over, there shall be no enmity save for evildoers.”

3:28 Don’t take unbelievers as friends and allies, unless it is for “fear of them,” i.e. deceptively for protection of oneself or of Islam
“Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends, rather than the believers — for whoso does that belongs not to Allah in anything — unless you have a fear of them. Allah warns you that You beware of Him, and unto Allah is the homecoming.”

3:110-112 Muslims are the best of people, Jews have earned Allah’s anger
“You are the best nation ever brought forth to men, bidding to honour, and forbidding dishonour, and believing in Allah. Had the People of the Book believed, it were better for them; some of them are believers, but the most of them are ungodly. They will not harm you, except a little hurt; and if they fight with you, they will turn on you their backs; then they will not be helped. Abasement shall be pitched on them, wherever they are come upon, except they be in a bond of Allah, and a bond of the people; they will be laden with the burden of Allah’s anger, and poverty shall be pitched on them; that, because they disbelieved in Allah’s signs, and slew the Prophets without right; that, for that they acted rebelliously and were transgressors.”

3:151 Allah will cast terror into the unbelievers’ hearts
“We will cast into the hearts of the unbelievers terror, for that they have associated with Allah that for which He sent down never authority; their lodging shall be the Fire; evil is the lodging of the evildoers.”

3:181 Jews are bound for hell
“Allah has heard the saying of those who said, “˜Surely Allah is poor, and we are rich.” We shall write down what they have said, and their slaying the Prophets without right, and We shall say, “˜Taste the chastisement of the burning.–

4:34 Beat disobedient women
“Men are the managers of the affairs of women for that Allah has preferred in bounty one of them over another, and for that they have expended of their property. Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for Allah’s guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them. If they then obey you, look not for any way against them; Allah is All-high, All-great.”

5:51 Don’t take Jews and Christians as friends and allies
“O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Whoso of you makes them his friends is one of them. Allah guides not the people of the evildoers.”

5:59-60 Jews cursed, made into apes and swine
“Say: “˜People of the Book, do you blame us for any other cause than that we believe in Allah, and what has been sent down to us, and what was sent down before, and that most of you are ungodly?” Say: “˜Shall I tell you of a recompense with Allah, worse than that? Whomsoever Allah has cursed, and with whom He is wroth, and made some of them apes and swine, and worshippers of idols — they are worse situated, and have gone further astray from the right way.–

5:64 Jews accursed
“The Jews have said, “˜Allah’s hand is fettered.” Fettered are their hands, and they are cursed for what they have said. Nay, but His hands are outspread; He expends how He will. And what has been sent down to thee from thy Lord will surely increase many of them in insolence and unbelief; and We have cast between them enmity and hatred, till the Day of Resurrection. As often as they light a fire for war, Allah will extinguish it. They hasten about the earth, to do corruption there; and Allah loves not the workers of corruption.”

5:72 Christians are unbelievers
“They are unbelievers who say, “˜Allah is the Messiah, Mary”s son.” For the Messiah said, “˜Children of Israel, serve God, my Lord and your Lord. Verily whoso associates with Allah anything, Allah shall prohibit him entrance to Paradise, and his refuge shall be the Fire; and wrongdoers shall have no helpers.–

7:166 Jews are apes
“And when they [Jews] turned in disdain from that forbidding We said to them, “˜Be you apes, miserably slinking!–

8:12 Allah will terrorize unbelievers; Muslims should behead them
“When thy Lord was revealing to the angels, “˜I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast into the unbelievers” hearts terror; so smite above the necks, and smite every finger of them!–

8:39 Fight unbelievers until Islam reigns supreme
“Fight them, till there is no persecution and the religion is Allah’s entirely; then if they give over, surely Allah sees the things they do.”

8:60 Make war against enemies of Allah
“Make ready for them whatever force and strings of horses you can, to terrify thereby the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides them that you know not; Allah knows them. And whatsoever you expend in the way of Allah shall be repaid you in full; you will not be wronged.”



9:5 Slay the idolaters
“Then, when the sacred months are drawn away, slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent, and perform the prayer, and pay the alms, then let them go their way; Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate.”
 
Nice copy and paste job without understanding.

Back to topic please., namely the killing of Muslims in Muslim lands by the 2 "super powers".
 
tell us this
how many syrians have been killed by us & russia ?
how many have been killed by fellow, but competing, islamic worshippers

This ain't a killing competition. One innocent murdered is same as murdering a nation.
 
This ain't a killing competition. One innocent murdered is same as murdering a nation.
But you are pointing fingers and apportioning blame. You can't do that without weighing the scales.
 
But you are pointing fingers and apportioning blame. You can't do that without weighing the scales.

Exactly what I'm doing to balance the scale from all the anti Islam drivel you see daily in western media.
 
Exactly what I'm doing to balance the scale from all the anti Islam drivel you see daily in western media.
Not really.

If you were interested in doing that, you'd first find out where it is and what it really looks like instead of assuming it exists as you expect it to. Instead you make silly strawmen and try to pigeonhole everyone into fitting a convenient group. Two wrongs don't make a right.
 
You have a very narrow view of world events, shaped by reading pro western websites.

You're imagining the US only got involved in Syria when their WMD rolled into Syria. In fact, it started years ago with drone attacks, espionage, arming and training "moderate" rebels, creating ISIS to overthrow Assad and sanctions to cut off medical supplies to Syria. When that didn't work, plan B followed and the WMD were engaged.

You"re a case study of pro western brainwashing.

Get your fact right. The people of Syria was tired of the Assad atrocities. Therefore the Damascus uprising. You are so deluded and brainwashed you cannot even see right from wrong or determine truth from BS. I cannot wait for the destruction of Damascus. That day is coming!
 
Not really.

If you were interested in doing that, you'd first find out where it is and what it really looks like instead of assuming it exists as you expect it to. Instead you make silly strawmen and try to pigeonhole everyone into fitting a convenient group. Two wrongs don't make a right.

I know what a hospital in Syria flattened by a WMD looks like and I can tell you now the US invasion and onslaught in Muslim lands exist.
 
Get your fact right. The people of Syria was tired of the Assad atrocities. Therefore the Damascus uprising. You are so deluded and brainwashed you cannot even see right from wrong or determine truth from BS. I cannot wait for the destruction of Damascus. That day is coming!
That's overstating your case. It wasn't just Assad but pretty much every Middle-Eastern nation which experienced some form of an Arab Spring. The common denominator amongst them is civil unrest due to food/fuel inflation as the world economy endured a phantom depression who none dare name.

That's also why the moment the Sunni extremist militias arrived on the scene, most of the "popular" uprising died in the face of a far greater threat to the people's well-being.

Even Israel experienced it's own form of some kind of occupy movement from people seeking economic justice.
 
The Syrian Conflict Thread

Get your fact right. The people of Syria was tired of the Assad atrocities. Therefore the Damascus uprising. You are so deluded and brainwashed you cannot even see right from wrong or determine truth from BS. I cannot wait for the destruction of Damascus. That day is coming!

Apostle Paul was just as full of persecution as you when he walked the road to Damascus and see (Google) what happened to him. Maybe your Damascus experience is also close at hand.
 
I know what a hospital in Syria flattened by a WMD looks like and I can tell you now the US invasion and onslaught in Muslim lands exist.
Yes, but there's not anything particularly special about the fact that the people that are dying are Muslim. It sucks because they are people, period. You keep attaching some extra emotional meaning into the conversation as if their deaths are somehow harming your identity. It simply isn't cool to use the suffering of others to justify your own victimhood mentality on an online forum.
 
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