Spooks Go Cyber

*MO guavamint cannot be trusted to play fair and target only suspected criminals - ordinary citizens will be in guavamint's crosshairs and the criminals will buy their way out of guavamint's crosshairs...*

You appear to have inside information IC? eh but how true u speak :D

CacklinToad applauds..
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Public Enemy No. 1
 
viva guavamint's gravy-train, viva guavamint corruption...

CacklinToad said:
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You appear to have inside information IC? eh but how true u speak :D
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Guavamint's varied actions to increase control over the minds & thoughts of voters, speak louder than guavamint's empty verbal utterances about freedom and liberalisation and 6..8 weeks etc etc etc...:mad:

Speaking of empty promises, what new excuse will her Poisonous Ivyness come up with to delay giving her speech about LLU and how telecoms will one day in 10 years time [maybe] cost less - this being the speech that her Poisonous Ivyness [supreme ministerial bovinity - worshipped by the horny beast Telkodemonopolies] managed to further delay giving until after the ECB becomes the ECA, except that the ECB has already become the ECA and still no speech from her Poisonous Ivyness - prolonger of the beastly monopoly - gauvamint's gargoyle on the nation's building...
 
damngirl said:
*Runs around looking for a cave of her own*
If you stumble on Usama Laden with a rubbish Bin's cave, notify the spooks straight away...with an sms resembling:

'Yo u spooks lisnin me sms, i iz here wit nun udder dan me pal Usama, iz cave iz *****ing'
 
:D laugh@ic

welcome to the forums damngirl - if no one said it before -.
 
RichardP said:
The interception bill is good AND bad in the same light ... If its to protect me from kiddie porn/terrorists/evil syndicates then its for good. BUT if its used for DA/ANC/PAC slandering matches, then its a destructive bill.

It won't protect you from anything. Initially they might catch a few more professionals, and they'll continue to be able to catch amateur criminals, but they're easy to catch now and the professionals will easily adapt, if they haven't already made provision for increased spying.
 
Izan said:
At the end of the day it boils down to balancing a right to privacy and what is in the interests of the public. Does the public have a right to know what you are saying in your telephone conversation (etc)?

Personally I think this is an indication that South Africa is moving into the new century if it can 'manage' to gather this intelligence effectively.

Yes the new century is characterised by the widespread promotion of the tactics of totalitarian states. The enthusiasm with which the governments of allegedly free countries have embraced attacks on freedom should worry everyone. Those who willingly sell freedom for the delusion of security should be put into concentration camps where we can keep them nice and safe.

If the terrorists truly do hate our freedoms, then they're well on their way to us destroying it for them.
 
Clipse said:
This is the primary reason why you never conduct very-important business over the phone and allways in person.

See how they can snoop you then.

There are ways.
 
based on a “paradigm of prevention” enunciated by US attorney-general John Ashcroft, have allowed the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) to conduct unauthorised wiretapping of thousands of US citizens, on the pretext that they may pose a threat to national security

Stalin would be so proud.

One of the intelligence community’s biggest problems is people’s perceptions that we are a threat

They are a threat. They're extremely dangerous, and pose a constant threat to freedom. At the very least they have to be very closely monitored by an independent party to prevent their natural proclivity towards abuse of power. That independent party cannot be in any way affiliated to those that hold government power.

In the end this spying won't really help them much when dealing with criminals. They will just become more sophisticated too. Crime, especially providing a steady drug supply, is very profitable and a business well worth protecting. One tactic will be to use your financial muscle to arrange numerous red herrings to tie the authorities in knots.

But, after the 9/11 bombings, Bush secretly, and apparently in contravention of a criminal prohibition on domestic surveillance, abolished the need for the NSA’s judicial sanction.

Stalin really would be proud.

It's all out of the Totalitarian State Handbook.
 
based on a “paradigm of prevention” enunciated by US attorney-general John Ashcroft, have allowed the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) to conduct unauthorised wiretapping of thousands of US citizens, on the pretext that they may pose a threat to national security

Stalin would be so proud.

One of the intelligence community’s biggest problems is people’s perceptions that we are a threat

They are a threat. They're extremely dangerous, and pose a constant threat to freedom. At the very least they have to be very closely monitored by an independent party to prevent their natural proclivity towards abuse of power. That independent party cannot be in any way affiliated to those that hold government power.

In the end this spying won't really help them much when dealing with criminals. They will just become more sophisticated too. Crime, especially providing a steady drug supply, is very profitable and a business well worth protecting. One tactic will be to use your financial muscle to arrange numerous red herrings to tie the authorities in knots.

But, after the 9/11 bombings, Bush secretly, and apparently in contravention of a criminal prohibition on domestic surveillance, abolished the need for the NSA’s judicial sanction.

Stalin really would be proud.

It's all out of the Totalitarian State Handbook.

Just read the original article again and wish to remind you all of how easy it is to have the totally corrupt monitor your every move. Don't kid yourselves it cant happen to you. It most certainly can. Nice post noxibox thnx.

toady :)
 
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