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Five years ago the National Prosecuting Authority decided to drop corruption charges against President Jacob Zuma.

This decision was based largely on what have become known as the “spy tapes”, recordings made by the National Intelligence Agency and the police’s Organised Crime Unit of then Scorpions boss Leonard McCarthy.

For five years the DA fought the NPA and Zuma for access to the tapes, memorandums and notes related to the decision to drop charges against the President.

What follows here is the full transcript of the recordings the NPA considered relevant, providing an intimate view of the frantic politicking and paranoia in the run-up to the ANC’s historic Polokwane conference in December 2007.

It also offers candid views on some of this country’s most senior politicians.

Critically, there are also notes of the subsequent discussion among senior NPA advocates, including Zuma’s legal team of Michael Hulley and Kemp J Kemp, which would finally lead to the dropping of charges against Zuma and ultimately pave the way for him to become President of South Africa.

All of the transcripts are in .pdf format.
■Spy Tapes transcript part 1
■Spy Tapes transcript part 2
■Spy tapes transcript part 3
■Spy tapes transcript part 4
■NPA doctuments part 1
■NPA documents part 2

http://www.timeslive.co.za/politics...-thought-was-relevant-from-the-zuma-spy-tapes
 
Here are the spy tapes

Full transcripts: Everything the NPA thought was relevant from the Zuma spy tapes

Five years ago the National Prosecuting Authority decided to drop corruption charges against President Jacob Zuma.

This decision was based largely on what have become known as the “spy tapes”, recordings made by the National Intelligence Agency and the police’s Organised Crime Unit of then Scorpions boss Leonard McCarthy.

Spy Tapes transcript part 1
Spy Tapes transcript part 2
Spy tapes transcript part 3
Spy tapes transcript part 4
NPA documents part 1
NPA documents part 2
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Sauce. ;)
 
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Damn there is a lot of plotting and paranoia in those transcripts! I assume if the DA has not challenged their authenticity yet, these are legit? If so, its scary what some highly placed guys can do to get to you.
 
sox63 said:
Damn there is a lot of plotting and paranoia in those transcripts! I assume if the DA has not challenged their authenticity yet, these are legit? If so, its scary what some highly placed guys can do to get to you.
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I'm too lazy to read. Hopefully someone will have the short-story out soon :D
 
ShaunSA said:
I'm too lazy to read. Hopefully someone will have the short-story out soon :D
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Its actually quite a good read. You just have to get past the broken conversation bits and its abbreviated nature and focus on the content.

Off topic, could the legal brains of the forum clear up if we have anything similar to the concept of a "fair trial" like in the movies? Granted we dont have a jury and all that, but is there such?
 
sox63 said:
Damn there is a lot of plotting and paranoia in those transcripts! I assume if the DA has not challenged their authenticity yet, these are legit? If so, its scary what some highly placed guys can do to get to you.
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I think the DA is still in the process of verifying authenticity.
 
Okay so what's the next move by the DA? I have read the transcript and clearly there was a serious political battle going on and Zuma won it in the end. Do you guys still think the DA should persist with the challenge? Methinks they won't get very far if they do. Better cut their losses and move on. They have wasted enough money and effort on this matter. Clearly it's a dead end.
 
JungleBoy said:
Okay so what's the next move by the DA? I have read the transcript and clearly there was a serious political battle going on and Zuma won it in the end. Do you guys still think the DA should persist with the challenge? Methinks they won't get very far if they do. Better cut their losses and move on. They have wasted enough money and effort on this matter. Clearly it's a dead end.
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Why? They can put pressure on the NPA to re-instate charges.
 
marine1 said:
But if there was such political pressure then Zuma was right ?
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That's my point exactly. Bulelani Ngcuka and Mzi Khumalo had no business meddling in the case as neither of them worked for the state then. The motive was clearly political I.e how the Scorpions were used and manipulated by external people who clearly were on the Mbeki faction.


OrbitalDawn said:
Why? They can put pressure on the NPA to re-instate charges.
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But they claimed the NPA decision to discontinue with the prosecution was irrational. After reading the tapes I'm sure they will reconsider. There's no way such a tainted case could succeed.
 
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Can someone correct me here if I'm wrong but didn't they say some of the documents were still missing and not all of the tapes/information was actually released..?
 
JungleBoy said:
That's my point exactly. Bulelani Ngcuka and Mzi Khumalo had no business meddling in the case as neither of them worked for the state then. The motive was clearly political I.e how the Scorpions were used and manipulated by external people who clearly were on the Mbeki faction.



But they claimed the NPA decision to discontinue with the prosecution was irrational. After reading the tapes I'm sure they will reconsider. There's no way such a tainted case could succeed.
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Oh, sorry. Misunderstood a bit.
 
MickeyD said:
Correct
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So it stands to reason that all the information that has been released would probably be the bits that corroborates Zumas story and the subsequent dropping of charges against him.
 
DA RECEIVES MORE 'SPYTAPES' DOCUMENTS

The Democratic Alliance has received additional documents that were part of the so-called "spy tapes", the party said on Wednesday.

"Some 25 or so documents were referred to in the record of decision given to us and were not part of the record," said DA federal executive chairman James Selfe.

The national director of public prosecutions was directed to give them to the DA.

"They have given us what they have been able to find, locate and source. There are some documents that we asked for that they can't find."

He said the DA's lawyers were going through the documents and would communicate with the State attorney if needed. Otherwise the documents would be used to start drafting a supplementary affidavit for the review.

The DA was handed the spy tapes last month after the Supreme Court of Appeal ruled that the National Prosecuting Authority had to comply with a previous order to release the tapes. Zuma had opposed the move.

The recordings, internal memoranda, reports and minutes of meetings dealing with the contents of the recordings had to be provided.

The tapes, containing recorded phone conversations, allegedly reveal collusion between the former head of the Directorate of Special Operations (the now defunct Scorpions) Leonard McCarthy, and the NPA's former head Bulelani Ngcuka, to manipulate the prosecutorial process before the ANC's Polokwane conference in 2007.

Zuma was elected ANC president at the conference. Former president Thabo Mbeki had been a contender for another term.

The charges were dropped shortly before Zuma was sworn in as president in 2009. Then acting National Director of Public Prosecutions, Mokotedi Mpshe, said the tapes showed there was a political conspiracy against Zuma and so the case against him could not continue.

The Sunday Times published a compilation of transcripts from the so-called spy tapes after the newspaper was granted access to them by the High Court in Pretoria on Friday.

Selfe said the DA was still convinced that it had a case for review.

"We more convinced than ever that we have a case for review and that case only gets stronger the more documentation has been made available to us," he said.

The DA was hoping to lodge its affidavit for the review next week.

"We hope to be able to be in court roughly by March next year."

Source : Sapa /gq/tk/ks
Date : 08 Oct 2014 17:41
 
MickeyD said:
DA RECEIVES MORE 'SPYTAPES' DOCUMENTS

The Democratic Alliance has received additional documents that were part of the so-called "spy tapes", the party said on Wednesday.

"Some 25 or so documents were referred to in the record of decision given to us and were not part of the record," said DA federal executive chairman James Selfe.

The national director of public prosecutions was directed to give them to the DA.

"They have given us what they have been able to find, locate and source. There are some documents that we asked for that they can't find."

He said the DA's lawyers were going through the documents and would communicate with the State attorney if needed. Otherwise the documents would be used to start drafting a supplementary affidavit for the review.

The DA was handed the spy tapes last month after the Supreme Court of Appeal ruled that the National Prosecuting Authority had to comply with a previous order to release the tapes. Zuma had opposed the move.

The recordings, internal memoranda, reports and minutes of meetings dealing with the contents of the recordings had to be provided.

The tapes, containing recorded phone conversations, allegedly reveal collusion between the former head of the Directorate of Special Operations (the now defunct Scorpions) Leonard McCarthy, and the NPA's former head Bulelani Ngcuka, to manipulate the prosecutorial process before the ANC's Polokwane conference in 2007.

Zuma was elected ANC president at the conference. Former president Thabo Mbeki had been a contender for another term.

The charges were dropped shortly before Zuma was sworn in as president in 2009. Then acting National Director of Public Prosecutions, Mokotedi Mpshe, said the tapes showed there was a political conspiracy against Zuma and so the case against him could not continue.

The Sunday Times published a compilation of transcripts from the so-called spy tapes after the newspaper was granted access to them by the High Court in Pretoria on Friday.

Selfe said the DA was still convinced that it had a case for review.

"We more convinced than ever that we have a case for review and that case only gets stronger the more documentation has been made available to us," he said.

The DA was hoping to lodge its affidavit for the review next week.

"We hope to be able to be in court roughly by March next year."

Source : Sapa /gq/tk/ks
Date : 08 Oct 2014 17:41
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Ja ne.
 
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