State capture inquiry begins

https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/ramaphosa-to-testify-before-state-capture-inquiry-20181101

President Cyril Ramaphosa for the first time said that he intends to testify before the Zondo Commission which is investigating the extent of corruption under former president Jacob Zuma
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Ramaphosa said corruption in South Africa had become like an "amoeba with tentacles all over. To deal with it you must go to the heart of it and thereafter it then loosens its hold on everything else."

He said South Africa's criminal justice system "will kick into action" and the time will come when "people are arrested, charged, found guilty and go to jail".
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TelkomUseless said:
More lip service (aka election promises). I will believe him if I see the guilty people in jail for more than 5 years.
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You even want to prescribe the length of the sentence, how will Cyril ensure that they are sentenced to more than 5 years, capture the judiciary?
 
thechamp said:
You even want to prescribe the length of the sentence, how will Cyril ensure that they are sentenced to more than 5 years, capture the judiciary?
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lol

I was hinting with the 5 years at Shabeer sheik "sentence". Found guilty , release not even a year later. And he is chilling on the outside now

And PS. Selling your country out, should not be a 1 year sentence... should be death ! Because this is what these people did. They SOLD SA to the Guptas.....
 
State capture inquiry resumes, Barbara Hogan to testify

The hearings of the Judicial Commission of Inquiry into State Capture will reconvene in Johannesburg on Monday.

The commission is chaired by Deputy Chief Justice Raymond Zondo and is tasked with examining allegations of corruption and fraud in the public sector and organs of state.

The hearings paused in September and will resume with testimony from the former minister of public enterprises, Barbara Hogan.
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More at: https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/...iry-resumes-barbara-hogan-to-testify-20181112
 
Interesting that former Pres Zuma's legal reps have no intention of cross-examining Hogan.
 
Candystore said:
Interesting that former Pres Zuma's legal reps have no intention of cross-examining Hogan.
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I doubt they intend on cross examining anyone. The only way to have Zuma account is to subpoena him, which he'll fight of course. They are avoiding it because to cross examine a witness you are required to submit your own version of events and Zuma would have to lie to do that so they're hoping they get left alone and not have to perjure themselves.
 
Zondo seems to waffle a bit, and present an adversarial point of view (in the absence of submissions from Zuma), but Hogan is pretty sharp in her rebuttal!

There is a clear difference between the Minister consulting colleagues, and interference from other cabinet minsters (or the President) in decisions which lawfully belong to the Minster.

Edit: Is there a role for the ruling party (ANC) in Board appointments? Hell no! (Of course Hogan gives a more tactful answer about cadre deployment).
 
Gordon_R said:
Zondo seems to waffle a bit, and present an adversarial point of view (in the absence of submissions from Zuma), but Hogan is pretty sharp in her rebuttal!

There is a clear difference between the Minister consulting colleagues, and interference from other cabinet minsters (or the President) in decisions which lawfully belong to the Minster.
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She says she as minister appoints boards yet the SABC board is appointed by the president. Not sure why the SABC would be treated different than the other SOEs.
 
Interesting aside about severe funding shortfall at SAA (in 2009) requiring an equity injection, and Hogan being summoned by Luthuli House to explain herself to the Tripartite Alliance, rather than to the President.

Edit: She was booted out as Minister in favour of Brigitte Mabandla, and then Malusi Gigaba in 2010...

Edit: She was Minster long enough to see what was necessary to sort out Transnet. After Maria Ramos left, there were acting CEO's, and then we landed up with Brian Molefe (and Siyabonga Gama, who was facing serious disciplinary charges at the time)...

Edit: I did not know that Pravin Gordhan was top of the shortlist for Transnet CEO. Instead he became Finance Minister, and the search for a Transnet CEO had to begin again...

Edit: The recommended candidate was Sipho Maseko (then BP Africa CEO, currently Telkom CEO).

Edit: Adjourned for lunch. Jeez, these things take time. Rules of evidence, I suppose...

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The ANC and a whole lot of other organisations supported Siyabonga Gama as Transnet CEO - that began a racialised narrative that Gama was being sidelined in favour of acting CEO Chris Wells, says Barbara Hogan at #StateCaptureInquiry (that narrative goes on today)
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As if deployment was a good idea to begin with:

At #StateCaptureInquiry Barbara Hogan reveals how the ANC's deployment process of putting activists into the apartheid state was subverted by parallel processes or factional deployments based on nepotism and patronage. It impacted the economy.
 
R13... said:
As if deployment was a good idea to begin with:

At #StateCaptureInquiry Barbara Hogan reveals how the ANC's deployment process of putting activists into the apartheid state was subverted by parallel processes or factional deployments based on nepotism and patronage. It impacted the economy.
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Yoh some of those comments, conspiracy against zuma, white peoples fault yada yada yada
 
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