Stop emigrating - President

Both comments true. However, at least there is an acknowledgment and an attempt to rectify the situation. We can be grateful for that.
Under Thabo, there was no crisis.
Under Zuma, there is no crisis.
At least Motlante acknowledges problems.

EE/AA is a different debate, but has done this country enormous damage.
 
Tassidar said:
Both comments true. However, at least there is an acknowledgment and an attempt to rectify the situation. We can be grateful for that.
Under Thabo, there was no crisis.
Under Zuma, there is no crisis.
At least Motlante acknowledges problems.

EE/AA is a different debate, but has done this country enormous damage.
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First positive post on this topic, thanks :)

True, at least he acknowledged it, let's hope he will do and not just talk.
 
Hoof-Hearted said:
pfft!

IBIWISI (from NZ that is)
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Motlante does seem a lot more serious than Mbeki was. Also, the ANC no longer has the luxury of being a monopoly party. Failure to deliver, will in the future result in the ANC losing elections. IOW, in the future, it will have to start delivering on its promises. I think the old days of 'ANC is the only party, which gave us our freedom, and needs to be blessed, praised and worshiped' are over.
 
Tassidar said:
Motlante does seem a lot more serious than Mbeki was. Also, the ANC no longer has the luxury of being a monopoly party. Failure to deliver, will in the future result in the ANC losing elections. IOW, in the future, it will have to start delivering on its promises. I think the old days of 'ANC is the only party, which gave us our freedom, and needs to be blessed, praised and worshiped' are over.
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I really hope you are correct. Let us hope also that the new "CP" or whatever its latest name is gets a lot of support.
 
Crime isn't the only issue why people emigrate or why people plan to emigrate. AA/BEE plays a big role as well. And Zuma has clearly said its staying so I really don't see how he is going to convince anyone that its better to stay.
 
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stefan9 said:
Crime isn't the only issue why people emigrate or why people plan to emigrate. AA/BEE play a big role as well. And Zuma has clearly said its staying so I really don't see how he is going to convince anyone that its better to stay.
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True. But one step at a time, and lets be grateful for what we have.

For me the biggest factor that keeps me here is that I still have an amazing quality of life, and no matter how large the salary I earned in England, I would not be able to enjoy the same quality of life that I have here (England doesn't have Table Mountain, or the beaches or the weather etc...).

Somehow as South African's we lose sight of this. There are plenty of foreigners who are choosing to live here, because they realise this.
 
Tassidar said:
Also, the ANC no longer has the luxury of being a monopoly party. Failure to deliver, will in the future result in the ANC losing elections.
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Sadly I don't believe that. I think the ANC will continue to win elections by a vast majority for at least the duration of our lifetimes. I don't think they have anything to worry about with regards to this new party.
 
Geriatrix said:
Sadly I don't believe that. I think the ANC will continue to win elections by a vast majority for at least the duration of our lifetimes. I don't think they have anything to worry about with regards to this new party.
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A couple of months ago I would have agreed with you, but opinions, once they gather critical mass can swing very quickly. I think the anti-ANC sentiment is rapidly approaching critical mass.

Another point to remember, is that while Zuma won a Polokwane, it was by a slim majority (60/40 AFAIK). This showed some of the major division within the ANC. While I don't believe that 40% of the ANC will break away, it does illustrate the point.

The ANC kept is majority by marketing itself as the "vanguard of the revolution", but what if a new party now takes on this mantle?
 
Well the President has done his thing for SA. He asked those emigrating to STOP.
I guess that's good enough. Now he needs someone to pat him on the back.
 
Tassidar said:
A couple of months ago I would have agreed with you, but opinions, once they gather critical mass can swing very quickly. I think the anti-ANC sentiment is rapidly approaching critical mass.

Another point to remember, is that while Zuma won a Polokwane, it was by a slim majority (60/40 AFAIK). This showed some of the major division within the ANC. While I don't believe that 40% of the ANC will break away, it does illustrate the point.

The ANC kept is majority by marketing itself as the "vanguard of the revolution", but what if a new party now takes on this mantle?
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I sincerely hope you are right.
 
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