SuperSport Job

[phiber]

Hey Guys, while browsing supersport i came across this "web developer needed" ad. So I took a look. Do they really think they can seriously find one person with all those skills?
Some of the skills they are looking for are:

# Minimum 5 years application and Internet development experience
# Experience in developing and deploying .NET applications.
# Solid understanding of C#, ASP.Net 1.1. & 2.0, VB.Net, ASP, SQL, XML, RSS, XML Web Services, HTML, DHTML, XHTML, CSS, JavaScript, VBScript, .Net and Soap Web Services, WAP and WML
# Experience of PHP 5 an advantage

Did they just google and pull all the names they could find?

Also:

Knowledge & Qualifications

* B.Sc Computer Science or similar qualification
* A web development qualification and experience is essential
* MCSD or other related qualification is an advantage
* Knowledge of the Internet & Mobile environments
* Knowledge of and passion for rugby is essential

Anyone here meet all those qualifications?? I have a feeling they are asking for quite a bit, whats your views?

 

[froot]

A friend of mine meets all of that (except for the php5 bit) and more.... so it really is possible.

 

[Necuno]

does rugby anti-passion count ? :d

 

[dequadin]

Well version 1 of the .NET Framework (including ASP.NET) was released in the beginning of 2002, so it's 7.5 years old. Version 2 of the .NET Framework was released in early 2006 (3.5 years old), ASP.NET 2 a bit earlier. This always make me laugh when I read "at least 5 years experience in C# 2.0), see where I'm going with this.

So reviewing what they want:
If you do one of these you can do the other
C#, VB.Net

They're asking for Classic ASP, so 5 years exp not that unreasonable
ASP (Classic), ASP.Net 1.1. & 2.0
RSS,
These two are basically the same thing
XML Web Services, Soap Web Services

These all go together, can't do one without the others
HTML, DHTML, XHTML, CSS, JavaScript,

Just stupid
.Net
VBScript

Mobile might be a bit harder to find
WAP and WML

Pretty standard, they don't want T-SQL?
SQL
XML

Did they just google and pull all the names they could find?

Almost, they just put every possible acronym they could think of in one list. You can do this with any job and make it sound impressive...

 

[Drake2007]

Instead of that whole list of gibberish they just needed was ask for this:

 

[guest2013-1]

Well I enjoy watching and supporting my favorite rugby teams but I could care less who plays in the team or what kind of sex tape has been released and what their names are or whatever. So I guess I fail on that point.

On the other hand, I have about 5 years more than their minimum requirement, all those skills including a bunch of others and a pretty good grasp of php5 mysql and url rewriting (mod_rewrite, apache and isapi filters that goes with iis) which doesn't even come close to my server admin experience..... list goes on...

 

[rorz0r]

I'd say I meet all those requirements except the 5yrs xp (only counting full time work, If I count freelance then a lot more but generally employers don't seem to count that). The main one I don't have is the one about rugby

 

[Veroland]

MCSD or other related qualification is an advantage

As soon as our company sees that on a CV the candidate immediately has a disadvantage. I know of people who passed their MCSD and MCSE's with less than 10 hours in front of a pc their whole lives.

 

[phiber]

I recently completed my BSc Computer Science, and not one of the people my class went on to become a web developer. The BSc Degree (at wits atleast) does not orrientate you towards being a web developer, its more a mathematical degree, so I really think they aren't even looking for the right qualifications for their role. Yea they say "or similar" but a guy with a web design diploma/degree is much better off in this position than a guy with a BSc in computer science who can do computation geometry, but not hard core web design.

 

[dequadin]

I recently completed my BSc Computer Science, and not one of the people my class went on to become a web developer. The BSc Degree (at wits atleast) does not orrientate you towards being a web developer, its more a mathematical degree, so I really think they aren't even looking for the right qualifications for their role. Yea they say "or similar" but a guy with a web design diploma/degree is much better off in this position than a guy with a BSc in computer science who can do computation geometry, but not hard core web design.

Not one person in an entire year in grads because a web developer, I find that hard to believe.

Anyway you are suffering from a terminology problem Web Developer != Web Designer. As for your degree being too mathematical for you to become a web developer that is just ridiculous. BSc Comp Sci hardly does any maths when compared to some degrees. Being able to do linear algebra doesn't make you above anything.

Oh and there are lots of guys on this forum with exactly the same degree who are very good web developers.

 

[Keeper]

I know of people who passed their MCSD and MCSE's with less than 10 hours in front of a pc their whole lives.

Haha! BS

 

[FarligOpptreden]

I could apply for that position with all my necessary skills and qualifications (B.IT and Microsoft Certified). I know of quite a few people who would be able to apply for it as well... All those "skills" are just part of a web developer's job. You need to keep up to date with new technologies in order to survive in this industry...

 

[phiber]

Not one person in an entire year in grads because a web developer, I find that hard to believe.

Anyway you are suffering from a terminology problem Web Developer != Web Designer. As for your degree being too mathematical for you to become a web developer that is just ridiculous. BSc Comp Sci hardly does any maths when compared to some degrees. Being able to do linear algebra doesn't make you above anything.

Oh and there are lots of guys on this forum with exactly the same degree who are very good web developers.

At WITS you cover mainly math and mathematical algorithms. Cover some statistical analysis as well. I never said it was too mathematical to become a web developer, it just does not orientate you in that direction.

 

[dequadin]

At WITS you cover mainly math and mathematical algorithms. Cover some statistical analysis as well. I never said it was too mathematical to become a web developer, it just does not orientate you in that direction.

Dude I'm not going to argue with you about your degree, I just think you are being naive.

However, the following are relevant to a Web Developer:

The topics covered in the Computer Science curriculum include topics on algorithms and program design, basic computer organization, data structures, limits of computing, artificial intelligence, programming languages, databases, operating systems, architecture, formal languages and automata, and software engineering.
While we teach important practical skills, we stress the fundamental mathematical and scientific scientific principles.

 

[FarligOpptreden]

You forgot to highlight "architecture" as well, seeing as you can build pretty complex web applications in OO languages, like C# and Java...

 

[bekdik]

Sometimes specs are written so that the preferred applicant is the only one who fits 100% ...

 

[TelkomUseless]

who the hex want's to code in vb.net

C# FTW!!

I make parts of the list [except PHP,WAP and WML and vb.net)