Surtie Inheritance Scam

Thugscub said:
These Ponzi Pricks never give up defrauding the gullible Idiots.
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Wary GOM said:
MUCH more important is who took your money, who promised you that you would get a return and what contract do you have with this person?
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Listen this probing is not going to get you anywhere, follow the case on the 23rd Jan 2023 and I will maybe post a pic of my Porsche 911 Carrera turbo. Lol
 
Surtie Millionaire said:
Listen this probing is not going to get you anywhere, follow the case on the 23rd Jan 2023 and I will maybe post a pic of my Porsche 911 Carrera turbo. Lol
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I have no need to know who these scumbags are - I haven't given them anything. It is YOU who needs to do due diligence. Convince me that YOU have a legitimate claim or take yourself away until you can provide convincing evidence.

Please don't bother to post a pic of you next to a fancy car in a showroom or even driving a demo for a couple of kilos.

However, I will keep checking the court case to see how the defendants manage to argue their case - THAT is interesting.
 
Wary GOM said:
I have no need to know who these scumbags are - I haven't given them anything. It is YOU who needs to do due diligence. Convince me that YOU have a legitimate claim or take yourself away until you can provide convincing evidence.

Please don't bother to post a pic of you next to a fancy car in a showroom or even driving a demo for a couple of kilos.

However, I will keep checking the court case to see how the defendants manage to argue their case - THAT is interesting.
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Lol keep watching yes maybe you will learn a thing or too before labelling everything as a scam! This threads name would have to change or be deleted soon! Lol
 
Surtie Millionaire said:
Lol keep watching yes maybe you will learn a thing or too before labelling everything as a scam! This threads name would have to change or be deleted soon! Lol
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Erm, nope. The title is Surtie Inheritance Scam. It is a statement, not a question.
Then, the title doesn't state that the court case is a scam, it just states a general scam around the Surtie Inheritance, which is the "Crowdfunding of legal fees". So nothing needs to change, just like nothing with change with regards to the referenced "Crowd" receiving anything
 
Eti1 said:
So, the “investment” proposal is this:

Some years ago, the two Surtie brothers moved from India to Lesotho, where they amassed a giant fortune. They also did business in SA. When the last brother died he left behind a massive unclaimed fortune in SA. When the heirs eventually appeared, it seemed that the fortune was not as big as it was supposed to be. The allegation is that in the 1980s SARB converted more than R1trillion into bonds that the PIC then bought, thereby amounting to a covered up government bailout of a bank that would become part of Absa. This would only be discovered or alleged later, as the heirs needed to appoint a private forensic investigator, one Jeff Koorbonally, to “find the money”.

This is where the potential scam comes in. The forensic investigator, either directly or through others, then starts accepting “investments” from members of the public to finance his activities, promising incredible returns in terms of an agreement with the heirs. Like, amazing figures: give a thousand now, collect ten times that much when the money is found. Oh, and it’s cash only.

Meetings were held, where people became convinced of the legitimacy of this venture, and invested. Feedback meetings were held when deemed necessary by the deposit-takers.

A few years pass. The inheritance money is then allegedly traced to Absa. That is when things start heating up, with more and more meetings being held and more money being asked for to pay for the legal team that would allegedly negotiate with Absa’s board on the release of the money. And the promises got bigger. Suddenly R1000 got you R1million. The money flowed in.

At this stage the show starts being run by pastors having almost monthly “final feedback follow-up” meetings, and they are now promising that the time is near for final payout. There are just several final issues that they need to iron out with the board so they need money for plane fare to Joburg and accommodation there. So now you can “bless” someone by putting in even more money on behalf of other people. And that is what this thing has developed into, a religious faith-fest. Faith in the lord is regarded as evidenced by faith in this business, and the pastors portray it as a blessing to be used to do good in the community. I have been to one of the church meetings, and the building was packed.

Admittedly, I put in a few rands at the beginning, highly suspicious but it wasn’t much money. Others have put in far more. The one meeting that I attended convinced me that it was a scam. I don’t want any more people to lose hard-earned money, but I know that some people are banking on this payout happening and are willing to put in more money.

My Googling skills are limited, but the only references to the Surtie claim that I could find are related to this private forensic investigator Jeff Koorbanally, open letters written by him, and reproductions thereof.

In the comments section on this article, https://uncensoredopinion.co.za/koo...-toxic-family-feud-trillion-rand-inheritance/, he attempts to distance himself from the collecting of moneys by anybody, especially the pastors.

So I am at the point of approaching the police/Hawks to investigate this, which is what was advised by JK at the link above. I guess putting this narrative on paper helped in that process. What would help further is more information that I can bring to the police, greater evidence that it’s a scam, and more guidance from mybb.

Have any of you heard of this Surtie thing?
Does it sound as much like a scam to you as it does to me?
What should my further steps be?
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Requoting OP for the Lulz

Just a reminder that 3.5years later we're still richer than any "investors" in this con. And the only guy actually involved in the ridiculous court case (Koorbanally) confirmed there is no crowdfunding
 
PsyWulf said:
Requoting OP for the Lulz

Just a reminder that 3.5years later we're still richer than any "investors" in this con. And the only guy actually involved in the ridiculous court case (Koorbanally) confirmed there is no crowdfunding
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It looks like you guys are more envious of those that contributed than interested in the Surtie Inheritance case itself. Now you all of a sudden writing off this legal case of the rightful ownership of the inheritance of the family!

Are you aware of the rulling given by the court in October and why the Appeal is so important? I don't think so, we more interested in the legal process and you more preoccupied with who gave what and how much we gave and if what we gave is going to give returns! That's not your worries.

Lol go read up on the news24, Burger articles and educate yourself on the inheritance and legitimacy thereof. Or go spew your negativity on other threads rather. I'm taking this thread over and throwing you all out!

Please shut the door as you leave.
 
Guys and Gals, this Surtie Millionaire may succeed where nothing else has - the thread might finally end. S/he is beyond slow in understanding what is written.
 
Surtie Millionaire said:
It looks like you guys are more envious of those that contributed than interested in the Surtie Inheritance case itself. Now you all of a sudden writing off this legal case of the rightful ownership of the inheritance of the family!

Are you aware of the rulling given by the court in October and why the Appeal is so important? I don't think so, we more interested in the legal process and you more preoccupied with who gave what and how much we gave and if what we gave is going to give returns! That's not your worries.

Lol go read up on the news24, Burger articles and educate yourself on the inheritance and legitimacy thereof. Or go spew your negativity on other threads rather. I'm taking this thread over and throwing you all out!

Please shut the door as you leave.
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You are 100% correct ... we don't give a crap about the court case. AS the title states, this is about the scam surrounding the Surtie Inheritance, which is the crowdfunding ... you must be trolling, cause you can't be this daft
 
Surtie Millionaire said:
Now that we've cleared the air! Let's dissect the scam. Who's ready?
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I’ll bite.

Let’s start at the top. I am still not convinced by the validity of the claim.

Take note that there is a difference between establishing a valid cause of action, and actually proving the allegations.

Please share the forensic report compiled by Jeff Koorbonally.

Also, his qualifications and experience to make such a report.

Prove the link between the restricted account and the Surties. With verifiable information please, like audited financial statements, not Facebook posts.

Also prove that this Surtie chap was indeed a multi trillionaire rand businessman. Again, audited financial statements will do.
 
Eti1 said:
I’ll bite.

Let’s start at the top. I am still not convinced by the validity of the claim.

Take note that there is a difference between establishing a valid cause of action, and actually proving the allegations.

Please share the forensic report compiled by Jeff Koorbonally.

Also, his qualifications and experience to make such a report.

Prove the link between the restricted account and the Surties. With verifiable information please, like audited financial statements, not Facebook posts.

Also prove that this Surtie chap was indeed a multi trillionaire rand businessman. Again, audited financial statements will do.
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Oh man,when you read the "report" how they "traced" the "money" - it's like watching the original Hackers movie

It's absolutely hilarious..

Hint: Running Netstat on a machine in the bank
 
Eti1 said:
I’ll bite.

Let’s start at the top. I am still not convinced by the validity of the claim.

Take note that there is a difference between establishing a valid cause of action, and actually proving the allegations.

Please share the forensic report compiled by Jeff Koorbonally.

Also, his qualifications and experience to make such a report.

Prove the link between the restricted account and the Surties. With verifiable information please, like audited financial statements, not Facebook posts.

Also prove that this Surtie chap was indeed a multi trillionaire rand businessman. Again, audited financial statements will do.
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Firstly you way off, what you asking has been presented to the courts Twice already, one in Cape Town High court last year and the other in the Gauteng High court this year Oct. You have to catch up my son, you way behind!

The courts has already affirmed the validity of the claim in it's judgement as well as the PIC did not refute the laun whatsoever, instead they said the only reason for prohibiting the family from receiving their money was the aparteid financial law that was still in existence.

So your request has been denied.

I though we talking about the real scam of people giving money? Maybe I'm an omelette.
 
Curiosity007 said:
Just FYI...
Donovan Sam IS the attorney on the case as stated in Netwerk24 article.

www.netwerk24.com

Diamantgeld: Surtie-familie gaan vra vir appèl in OBK-eis | Netwerk24

Die familie van ’n Indiese sakeman hou vol die hofsaak gaan voort om R1 350 miljard 'terug te kry'.
www.netwerk24.com www.netwerk24.com
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Can't you get it into your thick skulls that the plaintiffs, lawyers and case are not what the thread is about? It is about the human offal that have been scamming people of their money to support the bottom-feeding worms like Pastoor Johan.
 
Surtie Millionaire said:
Firstly you way off, what you asking has been presented to the courts Twice already, one in Cape Town High court last year and the other in the Gauteng High court this year Oct. You have to catch up my son, you way behind!

The courts has already affirmed the validity of the claim in it's judgement as well as the PIC did not refute the laun whatsoever, instead they said the only reason for prohibiting the family from receiving their money was the aparteid financial law that was still in existence.

So your request has been denied.

I though we talking about the real scam of people giving money? Maybe I'm an omelette.
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Finally and at last, in your last statement you are correct. If you and #Curiosity007 are genuinely unaware of the scams that have swirled around the Surtie stories, then do your homework. Identify the random pastors, snake-oil salesmen, liars and multi-level marketing experts and similar human flotsam who, starting in Lesotho, have built the scam around getting funds to pursue the case.
 
Wary GOM said:
Finally and at last, in your last statement you are correct. If you and #Curiosity007 are genuinely unaware of the scams that have swirled around the Surtie stories, then do your homework. Identify the random pastors, snake-oil salesmen, liars and multi-level marketing experts and similar human flotsam who, starting in Lesotho, have built the scam around getting funds to pursue the case.
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I was made aware sometime ago of these allegations and the Hawks were notified however nothing came of that as it was mere rumours and no factual evedence. If it were then people would have been locked up already.

Therefore I'm urging you and those that are passionately leading this brigade to go ahead and make a case these snakes, and I'm not being facesious, no they have to be delt with in the harshest way with Law.

But don't you dare smear everyone under these criminal acts as there are reputable people that has done their due diligence and supported this movement of justice for this family and the beneficiaries.

Selah
 
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