Surtie Inheritance Scam

Just as a reminder, I’m attaching a copy of the interim court order that you’re referring to.

There was money found in those accounts, but not nearly enough to pay out everything that was promised to approximately 5 000 people. There was probably only enough for each one of those people to receive five figure sums. None of the recipients would be even close to becoming millionaires. At least, this is the information that I was provided with.
Presumably these 5,00 or so people were the large numbers of people who were directly and indirectly (i.e. beneficiaries of original beneficiaries) in the estate. Do you know if they were also people who had some kind of agreement with Ms Surtie of Jeff Koobanally to help fund legal costs?

Without possibly breaking confidentiality, do you know anything about the sources of the monies in the ABSA accounts that were seized? Specifically, were these monies from the PIC?
With regards to the case against the PIC, there has been no clear indication that it has been settled, nor has it even been hinted at that there exists a certainty that the matter will even be heard. At present, there is a judgement pending that stems from an appeal by the estate against the PIC’s exceptions that were upheld in October last year. My personal opinion (which doesn’t carry any weight in these matters) is that they should never have been upheld. Only if the appeal is upheld will this matter go to trial.
Not having any legal training, my knowledge of the of the exception that was upheld is limited at best. How significant is this exception, which presumably would be the only appeal that would have been needed to force the matter to trial or settlement?

Interestingly (for me at least) is that the judgement was delivered by an acting judge whose application to join the bench on a permanent basis was unsuccessful. This is not the forum, and it is not my place to discuss nor disclose the probable reasons why the application was denied, but (again in my opinion), it aligns relatively well with the judgement and the reasons for the appeal that ensued.

Very interesting indeed.

Also interesting to note is that most of the judgements in the North Gauteng High Court that have been uploaded to SAFLII in recent weeks are for matters that were heard after the Surtie estate’s appeal against the initial judgement. High Court judges have been given a directive to deliver judgements within three months after the matter has been presented in court. This is one of the very few that will (seemingly) utilise the full three month period.

I had noticed the fact that the appeal has apparently not been heard. It also It could be because there are negotiations as to what the estate will accept as a settlement amount.
[Another matter that is taking the 3 month period is the MTI case, but this is most likely because of complexities rather than settlement negotiations.]

My somewhat limited knowledge of the legal system has led me to believe that if this matter should go to trial with all the evidence/information that the legal team allegedly has at its disposal, then they should be able to argue a fairly decent case. And if the information shared with me is accurate, then quite a few influential people could be implicated in a negative way.

This in itself is plausibly why the probability of a settlement being reached before arguments in this matter are heard at trial stage is not as low as some might think.

I don’t have sufficient knowledge of the reasons that led to the ex parte application, but the court ruled that the money in those accounts should have been paid over to the estate, and subsequently ordered ABSA to do so.

As I mentioned above, the court actually instructed the Sheriff to seize monies and data from those accounts. This indicates to me that there was might have been information pertaining to PCI in the account details. On the other hand, there have been reports in the past that there was conflict amongst beneficiaries as to eligibility. Someone in a post criticied these reports as having been from weak media sources, so this needs to also be taken into account. Nonetheless, the accounts in ABSA were at best indirectly linked to the claims against PCI, which is why ABSA was not the first respondent in the judgment.

In any event, with all the secrecy that the facts in this matter are shrouded in, the only way that any person not directly involved in the dealings/negotiations (or whatever the correct term might be) could gain any insight into this matter would be to read the court judgement for themselves. At least that’s what I’ll be doing…

Looking forward to hearing more - your posts have been a ray of sunshine on this thread!:thumbsup:
 
For your information, this court info that is enlightening this thread is old news of last dec. Since then they were last week in court and all is settled hallelujah!

Blessings and have a wonderful weekend .
 
For your information, this court info that is enlightening this thread is old news of last dec.
Thank you so much for clarifying. It certainly wasn’t blatantly obvious before your post.

Since then they were last week in court and all is settled hallelujah!
It goes without saying that we’ll take your extremely credible word for it…:sneaky:

Looking forward now to hearing your next excuse for the attention of the people on this thread that you’ve scammed :unsure:
 
Thank you so much for clarifying. It certainly wasn’t blatantly obvious before your post.


It goes without saying that we’ll take your extremely credible word for it…:sneaky:

Looking forward now to hearing your next excuse for the attention of the people on this thread that you’ve scammed :unsure:
It's my pleasure, please in future please check with me before posting outdated news, it's very misleading like your assumptions of me "scamming" people.

You will definitely not get anything from me, I'm keeping my vouchers.

Blessings
 
It's my pleasure, please in future please check with me before posting outdated news, it's very misleading like your assumptions of me "scamming" people.

You will definitely not get anything from me, I'm keeping my vouchers.

Blessings
ACTUALLY... that was me and many others that not only believe that you are a scammer, but we are 100% sure of it. The fact that people know where you live scares me. You said multiple times on this thread that the money is coming "month end" but nothing came. How do you expect anybody to believe a word you say. How you are still fooling these people is beyond me. Sounds like witchery to me
 
ACTUALLY... that was me and many others that not only believe that you are a scammer, but we are 100% sure of it. The fact that people know where you live scares me. You said multiple times on this thread that the money is coming "month end" but nothing came. How do you expect anybody to believe a word you say. How you are still fooling these people is beyond me. Sounds like witchery to me
Thanks for the clarification!

99% of the people here believes me, it's just you and "somebody" that still doubts.

Become a believer.
 
Presumably these 5,00 or so people were the large numbers of people who were directly and indirectly (i.e. beneficiaries of original beneficiaries) in the estate. Do you know if they were also people who had some kind of agreement with Ms Surtie of Jeff Koobanally to help fund legal costs?
The interests of the people who handed their money over to individuals/organisations with legitimate ties to the legal matter (read: NOT scammers like SurtieMillioNIL) are represented by the Western Cape Board for Surtie Matters. This group has gone as far as to register a company in December ‘22 in anticipation of regulating how payments will be disbursed. Please note that this was done LOOOOOOONG after people like SurtieMillioNIL came on this forum with outrageous claims of payouts being imminent. I’m also aware of another company that was registered earlier this year that is destined to be a financial services company with the aim of providing guidance to the recipients of any money (should they receive it). The individuals referenced in the domain name registration have already been linked to the above mentioned ‘board’. If anything, these guys are properly preparing to receive this money - plan for the best, prepare for the worst.

Not having any legal training, my knowledge of the of the exception that was upheld is limited at best. How significant is this exception, which presumably would be the only appeal that would have been needed to force the matter to trial or settlement?
Raising exceptions is a common delaying tactic during litigation. This gives the respondent’s counsel sufficient time to bolster their defence against the claim. In this instance, Rule 23 was misinterpreted by the presiding judge. Because a cause of action had been determined, the exceptions should not have been upheld. This is why the estate’s legal team sought leave to appeal the ruling

I had noticed the fact that the appeal has apparently not been heard. It also It could be because there are negotiations as to what the estate will accept as a settlement amount.
[Another matter that is taking the 3 month period is the MTI case, but this is most likely because of complexities rather than settlement negotiations.]
I can’t comment on this. I’ve been watching SAFLII to see the outcome of the appeal. In reality, the legal team is not going to share any details whatsoever with individuals outside of that team. So, as far as I’m concerned, any person who purports to have inside information regarding the details of the case is flat out lying. I choose to ignore all the speculation surrounding this matter, and formulate my standpoint/opinion based only on the facts. Until more fact is revealed, I cannot confirm any of what has been said recently

As I mentioned above, the court actually instructed the Sheriff to seize monies and data from those accounts. This indicates to me that there was might have been information pertaining to PCI in the account details. On the other hand, there have been reports in the past that there was conflict amongst beneficiaries as to eligibility. Someone in a post criticied these reports as having been from weak media sources, so this needs to also be taken into account. Nonetheless, the accounts in ABSA were at best indirectly linked to the claims against PCI, which is why ABSA was not the first respondent in the judgment.
I am aware of the money being seized. However, the claim against the PIC was instituted long before the ruling that you refer to. Therefore, your assumption about why ABSA was not the first respondent cannot be true. These are two separate matters

Looking forward to hearing more - your posts have been a ray of sunshine on this thread!:thumbsup:
I’m merely trying to lay out the reality of the situation for people expecting money, and who are coming here for information.

I’d like to reiterate that I do not personally stand to benefit from any money that gets paid out (should it ever pay out). I would also like to again point out to people that individuals like SurtieMillioNIL are doing nothing other than trying to pull the wool over their eyes even further. I agree with @Bigg thinker that it’s absolutely ridiculous that people coming to this thread regularly are still believing his bullish!t. He’ll be on here again at the end of this month with another excuse as to why no money has been paid out. It’s so sad, actually
 
Actually, it's not sad it's going to be pure Bliss and happiness when we as beneficiaries get our money. Be it month-end or end of the year or end of next year, we've waited long enough and have the tenacity to keep believing.

Your collating of information is very impressive for someone that has got no interest in this case!

For that I must take my hat off...
 
Actually, it's not sad it's going to be pure Bliss and happiness when we as beneficiaries get out money. Be it month-end or end of the year or end of next year, we've waited long enough and have the tenacity to keep believing.
There…just THERE is a clue to where this sudden emergence of yours is headed…:cautious:

Your collating of information is very impressive for someone that has got no interest in this case!

For that I must take my hat off...
The information is there, freely available for everybody to see. I realise that not every person has the ability to identify it, so I’m merely helping them. Or trying to. And trying my best to try and counter you and others like you confusing them with misinformation…
 
There…just THERE is a clue to where this sudden emergence of yours is headed…:cautious:


The information is there, freely available for everybody to see. I realise that not every person has the ability to identify it, so I’m merely helping them. Or trying to. And trying my best to try and counter you and others like you confusing them with misinformation…
Misinformation? This thread's title is Misinformation lol
 
Get ready, get ready, get ready!

Until this day no one has sent their emails for the Vouchers.

When my money arrives monthend then I want to be a blessing to all those doubters.

Blessed to be a blessing.
Fuskoff.
Where's my Ferrari?
 
The people who are dom enough to believe the garbage you spew deserve to be scammed
The people who are dom enough to believe the garbage you spew deserve to be scammed :ROFL:
Please stop pretending that you are not getting money. I’ve been watching your posts for a while and the info you have suggest that you know something which can only mean that you are ‘in’ somehow and now you are upset coz it’s taking so long. I agree with @Surtie Millionaire BECOME A BELIEVER!!! Stop trolling people.
 
Some of us are interested on a merely educational level,I'm certainly not sitting and salivating waiting for a nonsense payout to unrelated parties either

I've personally been a bit out of touch being on week 3 of a 2month overseas hiatus but Nobody's updates have been most handy to catch up
 
A believer of what exactly? SurtieMillioNIL’s bulltwang? There’s no way that anybody with more than a primary school education should reasonably not be able to see through it. But yet, so many do. One would think that he’s running a cult, and this is his platform for indoctrination.

And yes, you are right. I am getting money. Regularly too. But certainly not from this Surtie affair. It does hold interest for me, but not in way is that interest monetary.

As mentioned earlier, the information I have is freely available to everyone who wants it. They’d just have to sift through all the rubbish spewed by scammers like you’ve sent from your original account, SurtieMillioNIL…:rolleyes: (Do you honestly think nobody would notice that you created this account like five minutes before your post?)

And yes, I’m a little perturbed that it’s taking so long. But I’ll also be sad if this matter should ever come to an end. In the same way that I was enthralled by sagas like LOTR, I’ve been entertained by the fantastical imagination of (in this case) several authors whose flights of fancy conceal underlying tales of gut-wrenching human emotion entangled in a web of manipulation and deceit.
 
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