Surtie Inheritance Scam

Well, you have no idea!

After being stonewalled at every single turn for the better part of a decade, this whole charade culminated with the ConCourt refusing to make a call on rulings delivered by the Supreme Court, the Pretoria High Court, as well as the Western Cape High Court. I use the word "culminated" because the entire case was essentially kicked out, with the plaintiffs having nowhere else to turn. The appeal lodged at the ConCourt was not entertained. However, the "beneficiaries" are still being strung along and told that the case is moving forward.

I came on here because these "beneficiaries" remain of the belief that a settlement agreement is on the table. So I posed the following questions "Why would anybody want to settle when they've emphatically won every encounter in a court of law? After so many years, this case hasn't even gone to trial - it has never reached the point where any judge has had to rule on the merits of the case."

I then painted the scenario of someone being accused of a crime, and having the case struck off the roll because the state simply did not have a case strong enough to proceed in a court of law - there was no hope of successful prosecution. But THEN the state approaches the accused and tries to negotiate a reduced sentence. Why in the HAY would the accused even entertain such talks?

Unfortunately, my version of logic does not resonate too well with the parties I posed the above to.

The newest fad among this lot is an unfounded obsession with GESARA, the alleged global currency reset, and how all of this ties in with the release of the Surtie funds.

Maybe I'm not able to wrap my head around any of this because I myself am a bit thick. So could somebody please explain it to me like I'm five years old?

PRETTY PLEASE?
 
CuriousCat$$$ said:
Well, you have no idea!

After being stonewalled at every single turn for the better part of a decade, this whole charade culminated with the ConCourt refusing to make a call on rulings delivered by the Supreme Court, the Pretoria High Court, as well as the Western Cape High Court. I use the word "culminated" because the entire case was essentially kicked out, with the plaintiffs having nowhere else to turn. The appeal lodged at the ConCourt was not entertained. However, the "beneficiaries" are still being strung along and told that the case is moving forward.

I came on here because these "beneficiaries" remain of the belief that a settlement agreement is on the table. So I posed the following questions "Why would anybody want to settle when they've emphatically won every encounter in a court of law? After so many years, this case hasn't even gone to trial - it has never reached the point where any judge has had to rule on the merits of the case."

I then painted the scenario of someone being accused of a crime, and having the case struck off the roll because the state simply did not have a case strong enough to proceed in a court of law - there was no hope of successful prosecution. But THEN the state approaches the accused and tries to negotiate a reduced sentence. Why in the HAY would the accused even entertain such talks?

Unfortunately, my version of logic does not resonate too well with the parties I posed the above to.

The newest fad among this lot is an unfounded obsession with GESARA, the alleged global currency reset, and how all of this ties in with the release of the Surtie funds.

Maybe I'm not able to wrap my head around any of this because I myself am a bit thick. So could somebody please explain it to me like I'm five years old?

PRETTY PLEASE?
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Its a scam, no one will ever get any money.

Simple enough?
 
Johan Landsman said:
Dear Mr No Name Brand
I read your post with interest & realise not only your ignorance, but that you make your acquisitions purely based on perceptions. You totally & completely fail to substantiate the claims you make with authentic evidence/fact. Your perceptions & reasoning is purely based on your lack of knowledge concerning the matter or process at hand. Despite regular update public meetings & the opportunity to ask questions at those meetings you still decided to discredit people here who follow a transparent process. Why don't you identify yourself if your are convince it's a scam? Is it because in the back of your mind you still entertain the possibility maybe it's not a scam? Therefore you don't want to fully identify yourself, because you're afraid if it is not a scam you might just compromise your eventual payout? If it is a scam, why dont you demand the legally appointed board and/or legal team to refund your donation?
If it is a scam do you really think the so called scammers (board & legal team) will present forensic evidence to substantiate their claims? If it is indeed a scam do you really think high profiles such as Pravin Gordhan, Maria Ramos etc will be silent while they are implicated in the forensic reports?
If it is indeed a scam do you really think the so called scammers will used the money they've apparently scammed you with & waste it on travel & accommodation & on top of it present evidence to you of their travel & meeting with absa?
If it is really a scam do you honestly make yourself believe that a lawyer, advocates, Senior council will get themselves involved in a scam that will not only sacrifice their career, but also their families?
If it is a scam do you really believe that those people you accuse of scammers will be such idiots to (1) appoint and register a legal board of tustees? Even go further then that and appoint lawyers, advocates (Sc) to advise them & act on their mandate?
If it is a scam do you really make yourself believe that those people will spend your "hard earned" money teavelling up & down Cape Town/Joburg? What for?! Will the idea not be to pocket every cent donated?
If it is a scam do you really think those so called scammers will find themselve busy consulting with Sc on the successful reclaiming of the Surtie Inheritance & be so transparent to call for regular update meetings to keep you informed & at peace?
If it is a scam do you honestly believe they will use the pennies collected at those update meetings to spend on travel and accommodation?
The very same people you label as scammers made financial sacrifices in their commitment to the process, (sold their properties etc) compromised their families financially to honour their agreement with you and 1000's others.
Did you at any time give it a thought why the high & mighty one's, Pravin Gordhan, Maria Ramos etc, implicated in those forensic reports never made a public statement to defend their integrity? Can you extend your investigative brain to that extend? Let me give you comfort! You don't need a single brain cell to figure that out.
You consider the Surtie matter as a scam, yet a well research/investigated report has been tabled with the public prosecutor. Yet you want to run to the Hawks! Don't you think that is exposing yourself as a wise fool on a public platform?
It is obvious that you have limited knowledge/information on this matter. Neither do you appreciate the complexity, political & corporate powers who hold unto "their golden egg, wealth".
Please note I'm writing this post/reply in my personal capacity & non of the above necessarily reflect the opinion, viewpoint of any member of the Surtie Board or any legal representative.

Regards,
Johan Landsman
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This is a schitty post LMAO. Idiot trying to sound clever.
 
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The irony is that supposedly there is money, but they can not say how it was made, or what they owned or anything. Its like money was suddenly just created. Abdal Razak was unknown of, they claim diamond mines but if you look through all the documents they cant say which diamond mines. So it can be tantamount to the Guptas now claiming a share. And lets take into consideration they want R1.35 trillion from the PIC. The total funds in the PIC is R2.5 trillion. So half all the government employees' pension funds they want.

So imagine you worked as a teacher for 40 years only to discover your pension got halved in the scam of the century.

and yes you can drag departments through court even if youre a scammer. Our courts actually allow that.
 
Toxic T said:
Sorry for the nerco.

Surtie family's R1.35 trillion claim: settlement negotiations on the horizon https://share.google/ZBDKfSjSQbSgVCvga
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If its on IOL then you know it must be true!

From the article:
The family alleges that offshore inheritance assets valued at more than $36 billion in 1984
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Via Google:
Gordon P. Getty was the richest man in the United States in 1984, according to Forbes magazine. His net worth was estimated at $4.1 billion at the time,
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How did the Surties amass almost 10 times the wealth next to the richest man on the planet tho. something smells, it always does. :unsure:
 
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