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Just to twist the knife a bit: http://www.sport24.co.za/Soccer/SWC-stadiums-concern-SAFA-20100826

Johannesburg - South African Football Association CEO Leslie Sedibe, on Thursday admitted he was concerned that certain World Cup stadium managements could price their venues “out of the market.”

“We are worried about the cost of hiring certain World Cup stadiums. We told parliament recently we will use the stadiums built for the World Cup as part of the legacy from the global event and we accept they have to be sustainable, but the problem is the high cost of hiring these venues," said Sedibe.

The SAFA boss conceded there was a danger of venues becoming white elephants because of the costs involved.

“There has to be a balance if we are to benefit from our World Cup legacy.”

Sedibe added it could cost anywhere between R100 000 and R200 000 just to clean the stadium after a match. The cost of hiring stewards for a game at some of the World Cup venues exceeds R50 000.
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Safa will stage Bafana Bafana's vital 2012 African Nations Cup qualifier against Niger at one of those World Cup venues – Nelspruit’s 40 000 capacity Mbombela Stadium on September 4. Kick-off is at 20:30.

Sedibe said SAFA had been forced to increase ticket prices for the match. “Our revenue comes from ticket sales and we get a pittance from our broadcaster, SABC TV.

"So we have been forced to increase ticket prices. But we believe we are not unreasonable in charging a minimum R50 and a maximum R100 for tickets.
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White elephant - the new catch phrase it seems. Anyway, so whats up with all those random figures thrown around? Dont they clean their current stadiums, or hire stewards? And if they do, how much does that cost? Now take the difference and divide that by 80% attendance. Will the ticket price increase be so great then? Sounds like someone is just looking for some attention.
 
For Bafana's games, SABC need to bring a better deal to the table or be dropped. I know that their would be an outrage, like the PSL deal, but the SABC is not working. They pay very little for the rights, and they don't always show games live. The belive that Generations needs to be on instead of Bafana matches. Even when matches start at 8.30pm, coverage only starts after Generations ends. This means that there is no build up, coverage starts with the players coming out of the tunnel!
 
R100 000 -> R200 000 to clean a stadium.

Firstly, which is it, it cannot be both, the figures are really far apart.
Secondly, R100 000 represents 100 people paid R1000 to do the cleaning, and on that, I call absolute BS.
 
davemc said:
R100 000 -> R200 000 to clean a stadium.

Firstly, which is it, it cannot be both, the figures are really far apart.
Secondly, R100 000 represents 100 people paid R1000 to do the cleaning, and on that, I call absolute BS.
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I don't know the specifics, but stadium sizes vary by a greater range. Mbombela is just over 40 000 seats, while Soccer City is over 90 000. I'm sure that cleaning also includes more than just wages to workers.
 
davemc said:
R100 000 -> R200 000 to clean a stadium.

Firstly, which is it, it cannot be both, the figures are really far apart.
Secondly, R100 000 represents 100 people paid R1000 to do the cleaning, and on that, I call absolute BS.
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You forget equipment (hire?), cleaning liquids/materials, and some profit for whichever company is outsourced etc. etc.
 
Dean said:
You forget equipment (hire?), cleaning liquids/materials, and some profit for whichever company is outsourced etc. etc.
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You're forgetting they needed to clean the original stadiums anyway. So while R100k - 200k sounds like a lot, the difference is likely quite small between stadia (is that the right plural :confused:) of similar size
 
Chicken Boo said:
You can't, because this was totally unpredictable, TOTALLY. There's no way anyone could've thought of things like this until July 12.
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Not true. "What will it cost to clean it? Who will sponsor the stadia afterwards? Will they be financially practical afterwards?" They're logical questions to ask and a proper, thorough analysis of the situation should've been done beforehand.

The question is not whether or not it was unpredictable (c'mon, it was, didn't the rugby chappy try to approach parliament a few times because of it in a previous article?) the question is whether or not they would've still built the stadia regardless, and I believe they would've.
 
Double-header draws 42,000 to Cape Town Stadium
Morné Esben | 6 Hours Ago

Cape Town Stadium was expected to be packed for Friday evening’s double-header.

Local newcomers Vasco da Gama take on Orlando Pirates in the first game at 18:00, while Ajax Cape Town face Bloemfontein Celtic at 20:45.

Nearly 42,000 tickets have been sold for the two Absa Premiership games.

Organisers, police and emergency services gave the go-ahead for an additional 5,000 tickets to be made available on match day.

SAIL/Stade de France spokesperson Morné du Plessis said, “They went on sale and in the first ten minutes a few hundred were sold. We are pretty sure that [the remaining seats] will be taken up and give us a crowd of around 45,000 tonight.”

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Well Done CT!

Indeed, If all the stadia could be properly utilized for Sport, it would be a good thing.;)

http://www.sport24.co.za/Soccer/PSL/Vuvuzelas-make-comeback-20100828

Johannesburg - Soccer World Cup fever returned to South Africa on Friday with a sell-out 45 000 crowd watching a season-opening Premiership double-header at Cape Town Stadium.

A racially mixed crowd had fun and the plastic vuvuzela horns blared as Orlando Pirates overcame promoted Vasco da Gama 2-1 before Ajax Cape Town triumphed 2-0 against Bloemfontein Celtic.

Football officials are desperate to build on the success of the World Cup when South Africa silenced doubters by staged an almost hitch-free tournament.

Among priorities is convincing white, mixed race and Asian-origin football fans who attended the World Cup in droves to watch domestic football which they traditionally shun in favour of televised English and Spanish games.

Staging back-to-back fixtures at a stadium where Portugal scored seven goals against North Korea, England hit rock bottom when held goalless by Algeria and Netherlands reached the World Cup final proved a crowd-pulling masterstroke.

Vasco might have drawn a 10 000 crowd given the national popularity of 1995 African champions Pirates had the match been held separately while Ajax would have been lucky to attract half that figure for a clash with Celtic.
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Let's look at how our World Cup Stadiums have done over the last week:

Soccer City: Tri Nations, SA vs NZ
Moses Mabhida: PSL, Amazulu vs Maritzburg Utd (only on Sunday)
Cape Town Stadium: PSL opening day double header Vasco vs Pirates and Ajax vs Celtic
Ellis Park: Currie Cup, Golden Lions vs Leopards, and PSL Wits vs Supersport
Loftus Versveld: Tri Nations, SA vs Aus
Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium: Currie Cup, EP Kings vs Border
Free State Stadium: nothing
Royal Ba***eng Sports Palace: nothing
Mbombela Stadium: Currie Cup, Pumas vs Blue Bulls
Peter Mokaba Stadium: nothing

So, 3 of the 10 stadiums are not used this week. Of the 3 that are not being used, 2 have permanent tenants. Only Peter Mokaba is short of events.
 
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