take action on 1 nov 2005

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i think that we need to take action on this price increase.

i lived in the uk where broadband was a pleasure. after dealing with iburst because of the telkom wait, then the ridiculous caps and finally finding some peace with axxess and now that too has been ripped away - i just got the axxess announcement and i feel sick .

i would propose the blockage of a busy intersection - grayston and rivonia - one morning (at least) to demonstrate what is happening with the blockage from telkom.

a similar demostration in cape town, durban, pretoria, port elizabeth, bloemfontein - at the most important intersections.

the adsl usage and promotion in sa is pathetic.
developed countries are moving on to true broadband networks where interactive audio and video are possible. broadband there is supported by the govt.

sa is moving backwards and this latest move is an absolute outrage.

we need to take action beyond talking in a forum.

i would propose 1 november as the date.

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hah, yeah man, I think its really gonna help blocking people from going to work because 0.1% of the country cant download movies and games anymore... bwahahahah...great idea.

Ouch.. we've reached the bottom - I cant even come up with a better one.
 
The "broadband" here is a joke. When I was in the US a few months ago, I stayed with friends who have an ADSL line and it was just a dream to use. My friend would download movie trailers! In a few seconds! Without worrying about busting any cap! :eek:

I honestly wish I had never changed from ISDN. I used to get more downloaded over that line than I do over my ADSL.

Anyway, I've already sent off an e-mail to ICASA, and am going to send another to our local paper. I think that ICASA is our best bet at the moment. They're the only ones who have any power to regulate Telkom. I'm all for protest action, but Telkom doesn't have to do anything. The delights of being a monopoly and all.
 
lets all run around naked with g-strings on

with a sign saying

help help telkom is trying to rape me
 
Killadoob, now that is a good idea! If nothing else we will get the public's attention! Maybe even Telkom's, you never know! :D
 
Since Telkom really is trying to rape us, the last thing we need is to get their attention!
 
yeh, last thing i want is Telkom employees running after my bumb...

Wouldn't be a good idea to block main intersections though, you would just upset a whole lot of people and get arrested for an illegal protest...
 
Yes,

lets all go and stand infront of a bunch of cars.....holding up signs telling them about telkom....many will probably 'honk/hoot' and drive on, or we will probably be shot at by taxi drivers....there is no point.....the people wont care at all, especially early in the morning.

Bye.
 
You can get T-shirts and/or signs and about 10 people can surround the studios of 5fm and metro which are in the public area of SABC radio park. Rueben on 5fm would understand it all, for Gillman you have to make the message simple. You just stand there and he's bound to comment - reaching more people than one intersection. I'm not sure what primedia is like but go there at 3pm and catch Alex Jay who is internet savy.
 
OK Guys lets think clearly, this is South Africa, and what are we well known for here that is completely unique when people arent happy?? Toyi-Toyi!!!

So I suggest demonstrations outside telkom offices (big ones) nationwide, simultaneosly. With the singing and dancing and all that goes with a great Toyi-Toyi! Lets even come up with a song and lyrics.

The nice thing is its legal, f-ing noisy, irritating, disruptive (to the hard Telkom workers) and if we do it right (notify the papers and media) it should be just the right thing to get peoples attention.

But simultaneous is the key!
 
You can get T-shirts and/or signs and about 10 people can surround the studios of 5fm and metro which are in the public area of SABC radio park. Rueben on 5fm would understand it all, for Gillman you have to make the message simple. You just stand there and he's bound to comment - reaching more people than one intersection. I'm not sure what primedia is like but go there at 3pm and catch Alex Jay who is internet savy.
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This is the best idea I've heard so far. What we really want is ordinary ppl to know about this. If we send an email to the dj's too at the same time, explaining the situation in detail, they might just take it up for discussion on air.
 
wushutiger said:
The nice thing is its legal, f-ing noisy, irritating, disruptive (to the hard Telkom workers)
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Sorry to say. I work next to a place that regularly gets protestors. Have to say it's not really irritating for us. Kinda amusing finding out what's being protested against.

But firmly agree. Marches 31st Oct or 1st November.
One group in cpt and the other in jo'burg.

In cape town.
N1 Turn off at the robots. Handing out flyers and doing south african stuff.
Telkom HQ the one with the antenna on top.
Local goverment and political parties offices. 7 wale street. They usually respond after a while.
Icasa building. No 1 Neels Bothma Street Goodwood.
 
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You can get T-shirts and/or signs and about 10 people can surround the studios of 5fm and metro which are in the public area of SABC radio park. Rueben on 5fm would understand it all, for Gillman you have to make the message simple. You just stand there and he's bound to comment - reaching more people than one intersection. I'm not sure what primedia is like but go there at 3pm and catch Alex Jay who is internet savy.
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This sounds like a great idea! I reckon we should do it on Oct 31 so that it is the day before the new prices are initiated. I think we should get a lot of people sending emails to the radio stations and newspapers about the november price changes so that they will all understand and be prepared for it. That way they can comment intelligently on what we are doing.

EDIT: Just realized that Alex Jay's daughter goes to my school (yeah I'm still in school), so maybe I could get her to talk to her dad abt it. Any ideas?
 
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okay. 31 oct 2005 8am. drive time. the start of the opposition.

what we need is a clear place and time. if there is a protest then there must be hundreds of people.

if there are fewer people then you need to concentrate on fewer points.

i still think a 5 minute sit in at some major intersection would be ideal.
would bugger the traffic and before the cops come you are out of there.

tell alex j about flash mobbing and the revolution - he'll love it.

and i suggest some sort of a leaflet that explains the problem. is there good material for an a5 leaflet?

something on how sa is moving relatively backward technologically and how superb it would be to have broadband tv. or maybe be like in the old sa when the world had telly decades before sa. maybe we should continue to celebrate that we are ahead of the dominican republic in internet development (are we?). possibly a statement on maintaining the elite in sa by pricing broadband services beyond the average citizen (well beyond).

if we cant get a crowd then you have to make the numbers count.

anyone heard of flash mobbing? need to spread an sms - like a message with no start - organisation with no centre. but the message must be clear. no need for a cause. the danger is enough.

"change history. 8am 31 oct 2005. intersection of grayston and rivonia. stop traffic. 5 minutes exactly. pass this message on."

suggest similar sms messages in ct, pe, dbn, bloem, wherever.

schoolgoers you might be late.
 
Anybody got Telkom e-mail adresses? If 50,000 complaining e-mails reach every single known Telkom e-mail adress, their e-mail server may go down and they might get the point before Nov. 1. I'm willing to do my bit to further SPAM to Telkom for cheap ADSL. We could even include cheap special deals from international countries as well in these e-mails
 
copy and send this -

POSTED BY FLUKE

Broadband set for 50 Mbits/sec

BROADBAND speeds available in the UK hit a claimed 24Mbits/sec last month – and cable provider Telewest predicted that they could reach 50Mbits/sec within two years.

London startup Be (www.bethere.co.uk) was offering a 24Mbit service to early adopters for just £20 a month using new ADSL2+ technology, although you would have to be on a good line close to an exchange to get the top speed.

Even the Be upstream speed, critical for tasks such as surveillance and video calls, is higher than that of most providers at 1Mbit/sec. BT has boosted its minimum data rate to 2Mbits/sec with no increase in charges.

The challenge of ADSL2+ technology, which will be deployed at phone exchanges across the country over the coming months has forced the cable companies to improve their offerings.

NTL has standardised on 10Mbits/sec on all its cable links with no price increase. Telewest will roll out increases to 2Mbits/sec entry-level service and 10Mbits/sec premium.

Telewest spokesman John Moorwood said speeds could rise to 50Mbits/sec by 2007 with the advent of Docsis 3 (a new version of the protocols used on cable links) or the possible introduction of Ethernet to the home. He added: ‘Ethernet would mean you could do without the cable modem. You would plug straight in just like on an office network.’

The faster data rates are viable as it is volume rather than speed that operators have to pay for. The speeds will also make revenuegenerating services, such as TV on demand, much more viable.

-Article taken from PCW
 
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