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Teacher shortage in SA
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Other Pineapple Smurf
Honorary Master
Wow, that problem has existed in this country even when the Nats where in power. In the mid 80's when I was in primary school, even our privilege white school had not enough teachers, never mind those that could teach science and mathematics.
Don't forgot the history of our country where non-whites where subjected to sub standard education. Most of our non-white teachers where educated under the previous government and as such many do not have the correct exposure required.
You cannot blame apartheid for incompetent leadership but you cannot ignore its legacy.
Don't forgot the history of our country where non-whites where subjected to sub standard education. Most of our non-white teachers where educated under the previous government and as such many do not have the correct exposure required.
You cannot blame apartheid for incompetent leadership but you cannot ignore its legacy.
Venomous
Honorary Master
fair enough to say that, but by now those under qualified teachers have had 16+ years to correct the short commings in their education...
& the relatively recently qualified have no excuse..
& the relatively recently qualified have no excuse..
Venomous
Honorary Master
how many people qualify anually as teachers?
Kornhub
Blackburn Fan
One of my friends is becoming a teacher but she wants to move 2 Scotland afterwards =P
About 9000. I know next year where I'm going, there are only about 5 math teachers students and 2 Physics.
OK,
Ive seen references to 'Non-white' people elsewhere here. The 'ask a black/white guy' threads.
Is it absolutely necessary to refer to what a person is NOT , rather than what a person IS?....black.
I know that it was an official term back in old days, but have we not moved beyong the mindsets of our fathers & grandfathers?
I think non-white includes Asian, Indian, Coloureds and Blacks, so it's actually a shorter term.
Other Pineapple Smurf
Honorary Master
When talking about events of apartheid, its important to to say on what side you where on. You where either a white or a non-white according to the past.
I would say if one where talking of current events then cultural reference would be the only correct one as it would then be about cultural perception.
admittedly, but i thnk its also quite insulting to those people...projects an image of us & them, or being an outcast from the accepted 'norm' dont know if im explaining this correctly.
Other Pineapple Smurf
Honorary Master
Its all about foundations.
I don't believe any teacher is allowed to use the poor foundations set by the previous government as an excuse not to up their standards, but one needs to first accept why these teachers are not qualified to teach higher grades due to the past and then take corrective measures. Its a very sensitive issue when you approach someone who has done his/her job with pride for decades to tell them they have been doing it wrong or not competent to do it.
Another bigger problem that I see is the parents of the kids going to schools with such teachers as they themselves do not know better. Hard telling a parent with standard 4 that her child in grade 9 is getting sub-standard education. Talking from experience here with regards to our nanny.
Sadly our public education system in this country has been on a downward spiral since the 80s and those that have the power to do something just dont care.
Other Pineapple Smurf
Honorary Master
Oi! Stay on topic please, Thank You
So the topic is the ANC is to blame for every problem in this country.
Messugga
Honorary Master
There are races other than black, which also suffer from these legacies, thus you cannot exclude them.
I think the main reason for a lack of teachers existing is that there is simply very little motivation for anyone to qualify as one. Let's ignore whether they work hard or not for now, and consider that a science teacher in Johannesburg earns around R9000 after deductions. Not exactly the sort of money you live comfortably on.
I think the main reason for a lack of teachers existing is that there is simply very little motivation for anyone to qualify as one. Let's ignore whether they work hard or not for now, and consider that a science teacher in Johannesburg earns around R9000 after deductions. Not exactly the sort of money you live comfortably on.
Yes, I know, but could you not just refer to people classified as 'non-white' persons previously, as black people?
What i am saying is that constant refrences to apartheid terms keeps the temrs current & does not relegate it to the dustbin of history. In many ways, it keeps the system alive in the minds of people.
This. You see it also isn't about the money, its about the discipline in classrooms, teachers have NO discipline at their hands, now I'm not saying beat the little kids to a pulp, just a little smack on ONE child, will set all the others right until there are proper discipline structures in place. Just my 2 c.
UnUnOctium
Expert Member
No need for it to get physical at all. If the little runts weren't taught respect and discipline at home, do you think they'll do it differently at school?
True, I know teachers who have never lifted a hand to a child and their classes were always in control. It comes down to the parents/guardian to discipline the child at home., but the parents of today seem to see that their child can do nothing wrong. Principals also need to come to the forefront and take leadership and not be loaded with admin duties.