Telkom’s ADSL Bitstream uncertainty

inferno

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How come if Telkom and ICASA both stated they are waiting for ICASA, the writer keeps saying Telkom is stalling the process?
 

Paul Hjul

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Telkom is stalling on LLU generally and it is probably a problem in corporate rather than tech - there are big tech obstacles in building the doctrine of open access into the way networks are built - that will take a long time to work through. Unfortunately Telkom has an official position of seeing the MNOs as the bogey competition monster that it must jealously guard its asset base to fight - rather than seeing itself as a player in a market which is regulated by an ideology that players are both complementary and competitive to each other.

I suspect that Bitstream itself may have an ICASA hurdle because it isn't a physical facility and so facilities leasing regulations only go so far. If ICASA had in 2011 adopted the position that they suggested in their discussion document that the Facilities Leasing Regulations mandate LLU and started proper enforcement and drawing up of registers of facilities Telkom would have moved to getting Bitstream through but ultimately after the MNOs had their song and dance and so forth I think ICASA has moved to try to force Bitstream through and so Telkom is waiting on ICASA rather than risk releasing a product that is re-regulated after release and in the process have the benefit of evading LLU in toto.
 

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If ICASA had in 2011 adopted the position that they suggested in their discussion document that the Facilities Leasing Regulations mandate LLU and started proper enforcement and drawing up of registers of facilities Telkom would have moved to getting Bitstream through but ultimately after the MNOs had their song and dance and so forth I think ICASA has moved to try to force Bitstream through and so Telkom is waiting on ICASA rather than risk releasing a product that is re-regulated after release and in the process have the benefit of evading LLU in toto.
Nominated as the longest single sentence on myBB ever! :wtf: :D
 

Yuu

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Skipped the article and Paul's post pretty much sums it up well enough to know what is going on :).
 

KOPITE

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Telkom is stalling on LLU generally and it is probably a problem in corporate rather than tech - there are big tech obstacles in building the doctrine of open access into the way networks are built - that will take a long time to work through. Unfortunately Telkom has an official position of seeing the MNOs as the bogey competition monster that it must jealously guard its asset base to fight - rather than seeing itself as a player in a market which is regulated by an ideology that players are both complementary and competitive to each other.
In short, in fighting and politics in guavamint prevents LLU to be implemented.
 

KOPITE

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the only way to get Telkom to do something is when they see that wireless and fibre is eating into their line rental and adsl rental tax bonusses. Businesses need to fight Telkom where it hurts.

This Telkom and ICASA is bull*****. We will never get anywhere by fighting them.
 

Skerminkel

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Having ICASA regulate Telkom is like having Frans Ludeke ref a Bulls game.
 

The Trutherizer

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Oh well. Just another illustration of how when government links itself in at the core of business in a country then the citizens will come last.
 

kaaskop

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IMO in a real open market companies like telkom and multichoice won't even exist.

It seems its a south african thing to charge a small amount of customers more than a huge amount customers less.

At least Cell C is starting to get it right.
 
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