Telkom Lies!!

PCTECH

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This is just a warning to those of you considering ADSL/broadband as a connection solution. In spite of all the advertising, including envelope inserts, print media, radio and TV, Telkom has no intention of letting you play online games even on their own (SAIX-based) servers.

For 2 years I have been happily playing on the SGS servers with average pings of 45. 6 weeks ago everything changed. My ping is now NEVER below 150, thus making playing impossible. Due to a personal crisis in my life I waited 4 weeks before logging a fault.

I won't go into the PT involved in logged a fault ticket - you all know about that anyway. Suffice to say after much effort and hours on hold a ticket was eventually opened. A technician reset the DSLAM, changed my port on the DSLAM but nothing was resolved. For two weeks I have been getting daily calls from Telkom wanting to close the ticket and I have refused since the problem was not resolved.

Today a technician arrived at the house to PROVE that the problem was not theirs. He was unable to get his notebook to connect at all and phoned for somebody to come and help him. Help eventually arrived and after 30 minutes to a cell phone ON MY PHONE LINE they managed to get their notebook connected. He went to the Telkom URL and downloaded the test file which came down at an average of 50kps. He informed me that this was fine for my 512k line and he was closing the ticket.

I asked to show him the problem on his notebook and opened the command prompt and pinged saix.net - it averaged 167 then I tried telkomsa.net - it timed out. At this point he said that is not their problem and that he can download the test file on his notebook and this PROVES THAT THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH MY LINE! He admitted he didn't know what ping command is and had never seen it before.

The interesting thing is, is that everybody on the Wavecrest exchange with ADSL lines is affected and Telkom are refusing to fix the problem. Does anybody please have any ideas what I should do next? I have filed an account dispute since I cannot use the line for the purpose it was installed and I have requested that I get 50% refunded on my line rental until the problem is resolved.

For the record, I have tested using an unshaped guest account supplied by the Telkom ADSL helpdesk and get the same result. The line has been tested by 2 technicians and has no noise or faults. The following ISPs all give the same error: Intekom, MWeb, Axis and Atlantic. However moving my computer to the 293-xxxx area of Jeffreys Bay resolves the problem instantly.
 
Telkom hasnt lied, your line must just be really **** (in fact it makes no sense how a dsl line can sync and provide a loss-less 150ms connection) or you have some kind of trojan, torrents, voip etc using your bandwidth.

I ping 15-25ms to sgs's servers.

Paste us a tracert/traceroute to 196.43.1.11 and 196.25.1.11. Also provide us with your modem's attenuation and noise margins if you want any assistance, and install DUmeter to check bandwidth usage.
 
Telkom hasnt lied, your line must just be really **** (in fact it makes no sense how a dsl line can sync and provide a loss-less 150ms connection) or you have some kind of trojan, torrents, voip etc using your bandwidth.

I ping 15-25ms to sgs's servers.

Paste us a tracert/traceroute to 196.43.1.11 and 196.25.1.11. Also provide us with your modem's attenuation and noise margins if you want any assistance, and install DUmeter to check bandwidth usage.

Why would everybody on the 296-xxxx exchange be having the same issue when the 293-xxxx exchange guys are pinging 30 (which is normal for JBay)?

PC clean, no torrent-related stuff installed (I don't do them anyway! :))

tracert 196.43.1.11 (resolves to saix.net)


1 * * * Request timed out
2 138 ms 136 ms 138 ms dsl-242-128-01.telkomadsl.co.za [41.242.128.1]
3 150 ms 151 ms 150 ms rrba-ip-essr-2-ge-4-1.telkom.ipnet.co.za [196.43.23.106]
4 153 ms 150 ms 149 ms rrba-ip-dns-3.saix.net [196.43.1.11]

tracert 196.25.1.11

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 139 ms 138 ms 138 ms dsl-242-128-01.telkomadsl.co.za [41.242.128.1]
3 157 ms 157 ms 157 ms wblv-ip-essr-1-atm-2-0-0-0.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.11.30]
4 through 18 timed out
19 wblx-ip-essr-1-atm-2-0-0-1.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.11.22] reports: Destination net unreachable.

ADSL status shows the ADSL physical layer status.

ADSL Firmware Version: 4.03.03.00 - 3.02.00.03 - 3.02.06.00 Annex A - 01.07.02 - 0.49
ADSL Software Version: V2.00B01T01.EU.20050430
Line State Connected
Modulation Multi-mode
Annex Mode ANNEX_A
Max Tx Power -38 dBm/Hz

Item Downstream Upstream Unit
SNR Margin 30 17 dB
Line Attenuation 13 5 dB
Data Rate 512 256 kbps

Downloading DU Meter now.
 
Your first hop/dslam is a stable 130ms LOL WTF that's like 3 fold interleaving Ha hahaha
That's pathetic you have a right to complain major fault there.
 
:) Who do I contact? The Telkom technicians say there is no problem...and have closed the fault ticket. I'm tired of trying to get this fixed and I really don't know what to do next. Dealing with Telkom is like banging your head on a brick wall, repeatedly, endlessly.
 
phone 375375 - LeftFoot said that you get a transfer to a much more "clued up bunch" if you select the option "modem sync light is flashing"

ask them if they can find out if interleaving is enabled on your dslam - because its making your ADSL VERY VERY slow.

if you say the whole area is affected - surely it sounds to interleaving to me..

what you can also do as a test since i don't think the entire dslam got faulty - otherwise basic connectivity would also be an issue is to do a -t ping of 41.242.128.1 .. just ping - don't let the pc do anything else like antivirus def updates ect..

look for dropped packets...

let it run for say 15min - then u ctrl-c the ping process and look at the output...post it here the last segment like:

Ping statistics for 41.242.128.1:
Packets: Sent = 12, Received = 12, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 29ms, Maximum = 37ms, Average = 33ms
 
Thanks, will start it in the next couple of minutes and post the results later.
 
Ping statistics for 41.242.128.1:
Packets: Sent = 899, Received = 899, Lost = 0 <0% loss>,
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 137ms, Maximum = 367ms, Average = 139ms

There is no packet loss.

I will steel myself and phone Helkom when I get back from Humansdorp. I have to return PC and collect another for servicing. I can then listen to the wonderful Telkom hold music over the speakerphone while I service the computer. I guess by the time they answer I will have done the job, thus killing 2 birds with one stone, so to speak! :D

Thank you all for your help with this, I have withdrawal symptoms of the worst kind after 6 weeks with no BF2.
 
set the dslam on fire so they have to replace it
 
set the dslam on fire so they have to replace it

Looks like that might be my only option - torch the whole <insert expletive of choice> exchange. :mad:

Today I spent only 60 minutes on hold for the Customer Helpline and I lodged a complaint about the unqualified staff they are sending out to "fix" my ADSL. FFS, if the so-called area manager, who arrived to "help" the original technician who couldn't get his router to sync, has never heard of ping and doesn't know what it means how is he going to fix it? Oh, and for good measure he took the liberty to close the ticket as resolved! YEAH RIGHT!!

I have to give credit to Lydia at the Telkom Customer Helpline, she was horrified that a) the first technician didn't know how to sync his router and b) the second technician (whom I later discovered is the area manager) had never heard of ping and had no idea what it indicated. She DID know and was equally horrified that the problem has not been resolved yet.

She phoned me back within 20 minutes to inform me of what she had done so far (emailed some serious ADSL technicians to inform them that she wanted a solution ASAP) and she will call me in the morning to confirm that problem has been fixed. :o

Obviously, I'm not holding my breath at this point but she was a ray of sunshine in an otherwise black hole. Thank you Lydia. :)
 
Ingrid from Telkom just phoned. The fault is being closed because I can download at 50kpbs and my ISP is to blame for any other issues I have.

WTF don't you understand, Telkom? It's not my download speed but my PING. There is a difference! I have tested using an unshaped Telkom guest account supplied by YOUR helpdesk and get the same error. I also get the same error with MWeb, Intekom and @Lantic. HTF is it my ISP's fault? :sick:

Your technician cannot sync his own router and the area manager does not understand the ping command... :mad: YOU CANNOT CLOSE THIS FAULT IT IS NOT RESOLVED! What language would you prefer me to say this in so that you can comprehend what I'm saying since you patently do not understand English.

I swear I'm going to kill the first Telkom employee I bump into today...this is more then any one should have to put up with, honestly!

For the love of God, does anybody out there have a contact number for a Telkom employee who can fix this? It cannot be rocket science to turn off interleaving, can it? :(
 
ALSO

just out of interest sake..and to cover my info

1)have u tried another router
2)have u test with the other 2 providers verizon and I.S?

hmmmm - you stated "I also get the same error with MWeb, Intekom and @Lantic" <- they are all on saix btw!
 
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I missed the first post and not wanting to double post, I'll edit this one. Sorry mate, put it down to stress!

Jeffreys Bay
Wavecrest
042-296-xxxx

I have tried another router.

I have moved my pc to another line (belonging to friend) on the same exchange.

The only accounts I have access to and permission to test on are at those ISPs.

I have taken my pc and router to a friend on the 293-xxxx exchange and connected there using all the ISP accounts including my Axxess one - no problem, pings are 35-45.

I have done everything I can think of to prove to Telkom the fault is on the exchange. Somebody here suggested interleaving has been turned on at the DSLAM. Nobody at Telkom with whom I've spoken even knows what interleaving is!
 
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:D Well, the problem is not solved but Lydia has escalated the fault and given me a brand spanking new fault report number that looks nothing like the standard helpdesk number. She phoned me this afternoon and the problem is being investigated. I am hopeful! (which is probably a mistake but let's hope I'm pleasantly surprised)

MrNutz, did you have something to do with this? If so, when it's fixed let me know where to send the beer!
 
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:D Thanks, I promise that when it's fixed I'll send you some beers. Do you go to rAge? We can have a drink then too ...
 
:mad: I HATE TELKOM.

This morning my ping is over 500 to saix.net and 350+ to telkomsa.net.
 
i know the problem isn't resolved yet - but don't use saix.net as a sample.
saix=the network operations center - and there are ALOT of people there.. (i know).

rather use 41.242.128.1 , 41.241.128.1 , 165.146.128.1 which can handle/give proper ping feedback
 
[OUPA]MrNutz;1346620 said:
i know the problem isn't resolved yet - but don't use saix.net as a sample.
saix=the network operations center - and there are ALOT of people there.. (i know).

rather use 41.242.128.1 , 41.241.128.1 , 165.146.128.1 which can handle/give proper ping feedback


:eek: 200+ to each of those ... it's just easier to remember a name than a whole IP addy. Remember, I'm geriatric and the brain is very holey...:D
 
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