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Shadowkiller

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I Read on helkom that telkom is doing so they can have more numbers available. but when i think about this i cannot understand how dialing the area code extra lets them bring in more numbers unless they plan to divide area codes into more area codes. Does anyone have any ideas how this is going to work?
 
Shadowkiller said:
I Read on helkom that telkom is doing so they can have more numbers available. but when i think about this i cannot understand how dialing the area code extra lets them bring in more numbers unless they plan to divide area codes into more area codes. Does anyone have any ideas how this is going to work?
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I also don't get this. Had a debate with my mates the other night and we couldn't work it out either...
 
the area code for JHB extends for quite a distance from JHB im in Benoni and my area code is 011 the same as JHB and i think Roodepoort is 011 so how many more numbers can they get into the 011 area code by making ppl Dial it with the number now? :confused:
 
Thanx Roman4604 that makes alot of sense since neotel will hopefully be starting up soon
 
Shadowkiller said:
Thanx Roman4604 that makes alot of sense since neotel will hopefully be starting up soon
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Yep, this will allow ICASA to (not really sure how they will allocate, just an example) assign Neotel the prefix 4, so a subscriber of their's in JHB could have a number 411 123 4567, or in CTN 421 123 4567 etc. (if they chose to follow Telkom's current georaphical number scheme).

This would fail currently with 7 digit dialing as the regional exchange would think any number not prefixed by 0 must be local to itself (e.g. try connect 411 1234 & discard 567).
 
Roman4604 said:
Yep, this will allow ICASA to (not really sure how they will allocate, just an example) assign Neotel the prefix 4, so a subscriber of their's in JHB could have a number 411 123 4567, or in CTN 421 123 4567 etc. (if they chose to follow Telkom's current georaphical number scheme).
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The numbering plan was published last year in Government Gazette GG28839. You can download it from ICASA - http://www.icasa.org.za/SearchResults.aspx?Page=91&Criteria=numbering

Geographic numbers are from 01x to 05x. Neotel and Telkom share this geographic range. Number allocations to operators are done in blocks of 10000 (or 1000 numbers where there aren't enough), so Neotel will basically have different "ABC" codes inside 011 ABCXXXX, or 021 ABCXXXX etc.
 
The spare numbers available in the 011 are running out, so to accomodate more "future" fixed line operators a new prefix 010 for the greater Joburg area is needed. But one cannot disadvantage new operarators , by making their customers dial 10-digit , whilst Telkom customers dial 7 digits. So you make everyone dial 10 digits. There is no shortage of numbers for allocation outside the 011 area. But if you change one Metro, you might as well standardise for the country.

In defence of Telkom, this was imposed on them by the regulator. The reason they are the ones advertising it is because they have the most to lose if the customers stop phoning because of the change confusion.

Second point that is changing is the international dialling fro, 09... to 00.... This an ITU standard that is adopted by generally all countries. South Africa is the last to change. International visitors / tourists have always been astounded by why the code is different in this country (i.e from the norm 00....

This was first announced three years ago, but remember the last minute card drivers licence fiasco ????? South Africans always wait for the very last second to do anything !!!!!!
 
There was something in the pipeline about 010 dialing in JHB, cause 011 can only hold 10 million numbers. From 011 000 0000 to 011 999 9999.
010 will release another 10 million.

Anyone hear that a while back??
 
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