TESLA available for order in SA?

Musk has a history of doing stuff like this for April fools.
 
Looking forward to seeing the Model 3. This is an important vehicle for Tesla. Not sure why they're launching here though. Where are we supposed to charge our electric cars? And their already high prices won't look good here after import levies and taxes.
 
Bryn said:
Looking forward to seeing the Model 3. This is an important vehicle for Tesla. Not sure why they're launching here though. Where are we supposed to charge our electric cars? And their already high prices won't look good here after import levies and taxes.
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My first concern, where do you charge it?
 
Noseworthy said:
My first concern, where do you charge it?
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For me, at home.

I have plenty of free excess electricity I waste daily thanks to my solar panels, and the issue that its more expensive to feed back to the grid in Cape Town, than just going offgrid.

200KM range means I won't be worried about range anxiety either.

If I drive somewhere for the weekend, I can always run a line at the hotel/guesthouse, and charge overnight.
Or take one of my other cars...
 
lsheed_cn said:
For me, at home.

I have plenty of free excess electricity I waste daily thanks to my solar panels, and the issue that its more expensive to feed back to the grid in Cape Town, than just going offgrid.

200KM range means I won't be worried about range anxiety either.

If I drive somewhere for the weekend, I can always run a line at the hotel/guesthouse, and charge overnight.
Or take one of my other cars...
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They are advertising it as just under 350k's but I dont know if that will be like the model S and only for a specific spec.
 
Noseworthy said:
My first concern, where do you charge it?
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We have to assume at home only. Might not seem like an issue for city dwellers, but it would be an epic pain in the ass if you want to take a trip somewhere.
 
lsheed_cn said:
For me, at home.

I have plenty of free excess electricity I waste daily thanks to my solar panels, and the issue that its more expensive to feed back to the grid in Cape Town, than just going offgrid.

200KM range means I won't be worried about range anxiety either.

If I drive somewhere for the weekend, I can always run a line at the hotel/guesthouse, and charge overnight.
Or take one of my other cars...
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215 Miles range, that's around 345Km.
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
yeah they're going to sell overpriced electronic cars to the 3 poorest BRICS members as well as one of the poorest EU members ... 1 April really is an irritating news day!
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Poorest EU member ? Just the 4th in GDP per capita :whistle:
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
"one of the poorest"

go google the PIIGS and get back to me (hint one of the I's is Ireland)
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And how is a past sovereign debt crisis affecting the household's consumption (which is what is interesting for Tesla).

The PIIGS have never been poor countries, they just had their debt refinanced (which the US does as well).

I don't see two years of recession making a country poor (2008-2009):

After a year with stagnant economic activity in 2010, Irish real GDP rose by 2.2% in 2011 and 0.2% in 2012, which was mainly driven by strong improvements in the export sector – while private consumption remained subdued. The economic challenges continued, however, as the prolonged European sovereign-debt crisis caused a new Irish recession starting in Q3 2012, which was still ongoing as of Q2 2013.[25] In May 2013 the European Commission's economic forecast for Ireland predicted its growth rates would return to a positive 1.1% in 2013 and 2.2% in 2014.[26] The Irish economy grew by 4.8% in 2014, with predictions of growth of 6% in 2015.

One of the poorest would refer to Greece, Slovenia, Poland and other recent Eastern Europe countries. Definitely not Ireland nor Italy or Spain.
 
Even though I would love own a Tesla this country just doesn't have the infrastructure for it. It leaves a very limited use case for the car where you only charge at home and don't drive very far.

Not to mention our super stable power grid. Sorry couldn't come to work because I couldn't charge my car last night.
 
DrJohnZoidberg said:
Even though I would love own a Tesla this country just doesn't have the infrastructure for it. It leaves a very limited use case for the car where you only charge at home and don't drive very far.

Not to mention our super stable power grid. Sorry couldn't come to work because I couldn't charge my car last night.
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Well, at least the range is reasonable for round town driving - you can do JHB-PTA and back without sweat which is more than you could say for the Leaf. Can't see this having much appeal in SA, though, until they push the range to a JHB-DBN distance or charging stations become widespread on the highways. The Tesla stations can do 80% charge in 30mins so it wouldn't be too unreasonable to pull into an Ultra City or something and have a coffee while you wait. But yes, the bigger issue is how wise it would be to roll out EV's in a country with a flaky power grid.
 
f2wohf said:
And how is a past sovereign debt crisis affecting the household's consumption (which is what is interesting for Tesla).

The PIIGS have never been poor countries, they just had their debt refinanced (which the US does as well).

I don't see two years of recession making a country poor (2008-2009):

After a year with stagnant economic activity in 2010, Irish real GDP rose by 2.2% in 2011 and 0.2% in 2012, which was mainly driven by strong improvements in the export sector – while private consumption remained subdued. The economic challenges continued, however, as the prolonged European sovereign-debt crisis caused a new Irish recession starting in Q3 2012, which was still ongoing as of Q2 2013.[25] In May 2013 the European Commission's economic forecast for Ireland predicted its growth rates would return to a positive 1.1% in 2013 and 2.2% in 2014.[26] The Irish economy grew by 4.8% in 2014, with predictions of growth of 6% in 2015.

One of the poorest would refer to Greece, Slovenia, Poland and other recent Eastern Europe countries. Definitely not Ireland nor Italy or Spain.
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http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/
Spain has the highest unemployment rate in the entire EU currently, with two of the other PIIGS, Portugal and Italy, sitting 4th and 5th respectively.

Ireland is slightly better off in 11th place (better than mighty France no less), but is still sitting at roughly double what it was in 2008 ... "two years of recession" indeed, the aftereffects are still being felt and will continue to be felt.

Note GDP can hit record highs just off a government spending billions in borrowed money on military upgrades for example, it doesn't mean the man in the street has one extra cent to spend. Generally I imagine people without jobs don't buy Teslas.

Granted Ireland is showing signs of recovery, but they're far from recovered.
 
Unhappy438 said:
Musk has a history of doing stuff like this for April fools.
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It's really crap to read exciting news on Aprils fools day,you don't know what to believe and what is fake.

However I don't think this is a joke,the model 3 is pretty important to Tesla and they were planning to unveil it in the next few months so I doubt this is a joke.Also the claims don't sound outlandish but rather feasible,a $35000,5 seater vehicle,with a range of 340km and 0-100km/h figure of under 6 seconds sounds about right for the segment it's competing in,only maybe the price is higher than it's competitors,or it will be in SA anyway.

garp said:
Well, at least the range is reasonable for round town driving - you can do JHB-PTA and back without sweat which is more than you could say for the Leaf. Can't see this having much appeal in SA, though, until they push the range to a JHB-DBN distance or charging stations become widespread on the highways. The Tesla stations can do 80% charge in 30mins so it wouldn't be too unreasonable to pull into an Ultra City or something and have a coffee while you wait. But yes, the bigger issue is how wise it would be to roll out EV's in a country with a flaky power grid.
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Range is pretty reasonable as long as you're not a sales rep,but yeah looks like at least the chicken is coming first let us hope the petrol stations adopt the eggs quickly enough.
 
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