The 2019 ICC Cricket World Cup Thread

Agent_Smith

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So its still a few months away, might as well get the discussion going. Don't really rate our chances as I believe our squad is weaker than it was back in 2015 (when we made the semis). I hope that the 10 ODIs we play between now and our first fixture on May 30th against England will be enough prep. Think it will be between England and India (with NZ as possible dark horses). I like the fact that they've gone with one pool of 10 teams with a round-robin stage following which it will be a top 4 shootout for semi-final spots (and not two groups with Super 6 phases and other nonsense).
 

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FIXTURES:

May 30, Thu England vs South Africa, Match 1 Kennington Oval, London

May 31, Fri Windies vs Pakistan, Match 2 Trent Bridge, Nottingham

Jun 01, Sat New Zealand vs Sri Lanka, Match 3 Sophia Gardens, Cardiff

Jun 01, Sat Afghanistan vs Australia, Match 4 County Ground, Bristol

Jun 02, Sun South Africa vs Bangladesh, Match 5 Kennington Oval, London

Jun 03, Mon England vs Pakistan, Match 6 Trent Bridge, Nottingham

Jun 04, Tue Afghanistan vs Sri Lanka, Match 7 Sophia Gardens, Cardiff

Jun 05, Wed South Africa vs India, Match 8 The Rose Bowl, Southampton

Jun 05, Bangladesh vs New Zealand, Match 9 Kennington Oval, London

Jun 06, Thu Australia vs Windies, Match 10 Trent Bridge, Nottingham

Jun 07, Fri Pakistan vs Sri Lanka, Match 11 County Ground, Bristol

Jun 08, Sat England vs Bangladesh, Match 12 Sophia Gardens, Cardiff

Jun 08, Sat Afghanistan vs New Zealand, Match 13 Cooper Associates County Ground, Taunton

Jun 09, Sun India vs Australia, Match 14 Kennington Oval, London

Jun 10, Mon South Africa vs Windies, Match 15 The Rose Bowl, Southampton

Jun 11, Tue Bangladesh vs Sri Lanka, Match 16 County Ground, Bristol

Jun 12, Wed Australia vs Pakistan, Match 17 The Cooper Associates County Ground, Taunton

Jun 13, Thu India vs New Zealand, Match 18 Trent Bridge, Nottingham

Jun 14, Fri England vs Windies, Match 19 The Rose Bowl, Southampton

Jun 15, Sat Sri Lanka vs Australia, Match 20 Kennington Oval, London

Jun 15, Sat South Africa vs Afghanistan, Match 21 Sophia Gardens, Cardiff

Jun 16, Sun India vs Pakistan, Match 22 Old Trafford, Manchester

Jun 17, Mon Windies vs Bangladesh, Match 23 The Cooper Associates County Ground, Taunton

Jun 18, Tue England vs Afghanistan, Match 24 Old Trafford, Manchester

Jun 19, Wed New Zealand vs South Africa, Match 25 Edgbaston, Birmingham

Jun 20, Thu Australia vs Bangladesh, Match 26 Trent Bridge, Nottingham

Jun 21, Fri England vs Sri Lanka, Match 27 Headingley, Leeds

Jun 22, Sat India vs Afghanistan, Match 28 The Rose Bowl, Southampton

Jun 22, Sat Windies vs New Zealand, Match 29Old Trafford, Manchester

Jun 23, Sun Pakistan vs South Africa, Match 30 Lord's, London

Jun 24, Mon Bangladesh vs Afghanistan, Match 31 The Rose Bowl, Southampton

Jun 25, Tue England vs Australia, Match 32 Lord's, London

Jun 26, Wed New Zealand vs Pakistan, Match 33 Edgbaston, Birmingham

Jun 27, Thu Windies vs India, Match 34 Old Trafford, Manchester

Jun 28, Fri Sri Lanka vs South Africa, Match 35 Riverside Ground, Chester-le-Street

Jun 29, Sat Pakistan vs Afghanistan, Match 36 Headingley, Leeds

Jun 29, Sat New Zealand vs Australia, Match 37 Lord's, London

Jun 30, Sun England vs India, Match 38 Edgbaston, Birmingham

Jul 01, Mon Sri Lanka vs Windies, Match 39 Riverside Ground, Chester-le-Street

Jul 02, Tue Bangladesh vs India, Match 40 Edgbaston, Birmingham

Jul 03, Wed England vs New Zealand, Match 41 Riverside Ground, Chester-le-Street

Jul 04, Thu Afghanistan vs Windies, Match 42 Headingley, Leeds

Jul 05, Fri Pakistan vs Bangladesh, Match 43 Lord's, London

Jul 06, Sat Sri Lanka vs India, Match 44 Headingley, Leeds

Jul 06, Sat Australia vs South Africa, Match 45 Old Trafford, Manchester

Jul 09, Tue TBC vs TBC, 1st Semi-Final (1 v 4) Old Trafford, Manchester

Jul 11, Thu TBC vs TBC, 2nd Semi-Final (2 v 3) Edgbaston, Birmingham

Jul 14, Sun TBC vs TBC, Final Lord's, London
 

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South Africa Squad

Faf du Plessis (captain), Hashim Amla, Quinton de Kock, JP Duminy, Aiden Markram, David Miller, Lungi Ngidi, Anrich Nortje, Andile Phehlukwayo, Dwaine Pretorius, Kagiso Rabada, Tabraiz Shamsi, Dale Steyn, Imran Tahir, Rassie van der Dussen
Kiwi Squad

Kane Williamson (c), Tom Blundell, Trent Boult, Colin de Grandhomme, Lockie Ferguson, Martin Guptill, Matt Henry, Tom Latham, Colin Munro, Jimmy Neesham, Henry Nicholls, Mitchell Santner, Ish Sodhi, Tim Southee, Ross Taylor
Australia Squad

Aaron Finch (capt), David Warner, Steven Smith, Usman Khawaja, Shaun Marsh, Glenn Maxwell, Marcus Stoinis, Alex Carey (wk), Pat Cummins, Mitchell Starc, Jhye Richardson, Nathan Coulter-Nile, Jason Behrendorff, Adam Zampa, Nathan Lyon
India Squad

Virat Kohli (capt), Rohit Sharma, Shikhar Dhawan, K.L. Rahul, Vijay Shankar, Mahendra Singh Dhoni (wk), Kedar Jadhav, Dinesh Karthik, Yuzvendra Chahal, Kuldeep Yadav, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Jasprit Bumrah, Hardik Pandya, Ravindra Jadeja, Mohammad Shami.
England Squad (Preliminary)

Eoin Morgan (capt), Moeen Ali, Jonny Bairstow, Jos Buttler, Tom Curran, Joe Denly, Alex Hales, Liam Plunkett, Adil Rashid, Joe Root, Jason Roy, Ben Stokes, David Willey, Chris Woakes, Mark Wood
Bangladesh Squad

Mashrafe Mortaza (C), Tamim Iqbal, Mahmudullah, Mushfiqur Rahim, Shakib Al Hasan (VC), Soumya Sarkar, Liton Das, Sabbir Rahman, Mehidy Hasan, Mohammad Mithun, Rubel Hossain, Mustafizur Rahman, Mohammad Saifuddin, Mosaddek Hossain, Abu Jayed
Sri Lanka Squad

Dimuth Karunaratne (capt), Lasith Malinga, Angelo Mathews, Thisara Perera, Kusal Perera, Dhananjaya de Silva, Kusal Mendis, Isuru Udana, Milinda Siriwardana, Avishka Fernando, Jeevan Mendis, Lahiru Thirimanne, Jeffrey Vandersay, Nuwan Pradeep, Suranga Lakmal
Pakistan Squad

Sarfraz Ahmed (captain), Fakhar Zaman, Imam-ul-Haq, Abid Ali, Babar Azam, Haris Sohail, Shoaib Malik, Mohammad Hafeez(subject to fitness), Imad Wasim, Shadab Khan, Hasan Ali, Faheem Ashraf, Junaid Khan, Shaheen Shah Afridi, Mohammad Hasnain
Afghanistan Squad

Gulbadin Naib (captain), Mohammad Shahzad (wicketkeeper), Noor Ali Zadran, Hazratullah Zazai, Rahmat Shah, Asghar Afghan, Hashmatullah Shahidi, Najibullah Zadran, Samiullah Shinwari, Mohammad Nabi, Rashid Khan, Dawlat Zadran, Aftab Alam, Hamid Hassan, Mujeeb Ur Rahman
West Indies Squad

Jason Holder (c), Andre Russell, Ashley Nurse, Carlos Brathwaite, Chris Gayle, Darren Bravo, Evin Lewis, Fabian Allen, Kemar Roach, Nicholas Pooran, Oshane Thomas, Shai Hope, Shannon Gabriel, Sheldon Cottrell, Shimron Hetmyer
 
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Current ICC ODI rankings: https://www.icc-cricket.com/rankings/mens/team-rankings/odi

So the top 4 are England, India, NZ, and us. With the state of Pakistan, SL, Aus, WI, etc I think the winner will probably be in that top 4 ranking so we are in with a chance. We tend to do better as underdogs than as favourites so I'd actually give them a 20% chance of getting the cup. I might change that opinion depending what we see in the remaining ODI's prior to the world cup. Us vs Pakistan will be telling.

Still, its the world cup. Our relationship with the WC seems to be cursed so I long ago gave up any serious hope of SA lifting it.
 

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Dont forget that Smith and Warner's bans end in march and they will no doubt return to the Aus team.

It will definitely increase their chances.
 

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Dont forget that Smith and Warner's bans end in march and they will no doubt return to the Aus team.

It will definitely increase their chances.
Likely Usman Qadir only qualify to play for Australia in 2020.

 

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Everyone is weaker compared to 2015 except for india and england. India and England are well ahead of everyone else but ofc being knockout competition that doesn't mean much.

Dont forget that Smith and Warner's bans end in march and they will no doubt return to the Aus team.

It will definitely increase their chances.
They have been poor in odi cricket for a while even before the bans. Smith the odi batsman is not the same as the all conquering test batsman.
 

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India will take the cup. Well India, Oz or England :p
 

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Typical South African, It's still months away and already not supporting the team.
 

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Typical South African, It's still months away and already not supporting the team.
Lets just face it guys... CWCs are just too painful for us south Africans. better to lower expectations and then be pleasantly surprised.

That said. Lets talk about what a team would look like. We already know who the top and bottom 3's will be:

The squad will be 15 players. And English conditions should inform selection. Theres a fair amount of talent to choose from.

Batters: Markram, R Hendricks, Miller, Klaasen (wk), Behardien, vd Dussen
Bowlers: Ngidi, Shamsi, Dane Paterson
All rounders: Morris, Andile, Philander , Duminy (dunno if he should go here or with the batters)

1. de Kock (WK)
2. Amla
3. du Plessis
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. Rabada
10. Steyn
11. Tahir

I've excluded uncapped players as i dont think that Ottis will risk it. It doesnt make sense to me either to debut a player at the world cup.
 

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Typical South African, It's still months away and already not supporting the team.
Hmm, not sure who you are referring to here. My comments in the first line were definitely not unsupportive. More just a case of not getting my hopes up. That doesn't mean that I won't be shouting for them to go all the way. Ditto for my thoughts on our RWC chances too, but that's for another thread.
 

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Lets just face it guys... CWCs are just too painful for us south Africans. better to lower expectations and then be pleasantly surprised.

That said. Lets talk about what a team would look like. We already know who the top and bottom 3's will be:

The squad will be 15 players. And English conditions should inform selection. Theres a fair amount of talent to choose from.

Batters: Markram, R Hendricks, Miller, Klaasen (wk), Behardien, vd Dussen
Bowlers: Ngidi, Shamsi, Dane Paterson
All rounders: Morris, Andile, Philander , Duminy (dunno if he should go here or with the batters)

1. de Kock (WK)
2. Amla
3. du Plessis
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. Rabada
10. Steyn
11. Tahir

I've excluded uncapped players as i dont think that Ottis will risk it. It doesnt make sense to me either to debut a player at the world cup.
Hopefully the series' against Pakistan and Sri Lanka will provide the selectors with a clearer picture as the WC looms. I wouldn't be surprised to see someone like Hendricks or Markram open with QdK with Amla and Faf dropping down 1 position. Then you're probably looking at Duminy in at 5, Miller at 6 and then the allrounders.
 

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Hmm, not sure who you are referring to here. My comments in the first line were definitely not unsupportive. More just a case of not getting my hopes up. That doesn't mean that I won't be shouting for them to go all the way. Ditto for my thoughts on our RWC chances too, but that's for another thread.
To Rakabos, I never quote the post directly above mine. It's is a reply to him.
 

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Barring any injuries I recon at this stage the squad is already picked and its just a case of fine tuning in the pakistan and sri lanka odi's.

Reckon the 15 going to the world cup are.

1.Amla
2.QDK
3.Markram
4.Faf
5.Miller
6.JP
7.Mulder
8.Rabada
9.Steyn
10.Ngidi
11.Tahir
12.Shamsi
13.Klaasen
14.Reeza Hendriks
15.Phelukwayo
 

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Barring any injuries I recon at this stage the squad is already picked and its just a case of fine tuning in the pakistan and sri lanka odi's.

Reckon the 15 going to the world cup are.

1.Amla
2.QDK
3.Markram
4.Faf
5.Miller
6.JP
7.Mulder
8.Rabada
9.Steyn
10.Ngidi
11.Tahir
12.Shamsi
13.Klaasen
14.Reeza Hendriks
15.Phelukwayo
Reeza being the only one i doubt.... So hot cold
 

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Barring any injuries I recon at this stage the squad is already picked and its just a case of fine tuning in the pakistan and sri lanka odi's.

Reckon the 15 going to the world cup are.

1.Amla
2.QDK
3.Markram
4.Faf
5.Miller
6.JP
7.Mulder
8.Rabada
9.Steyn
10.Ngidi
11.Tahir
12.Shamsi
13.Klaasen
14.Reeza Hendriks
15.Phelukwayo
Is that a starting 11 plus extras or just 15? cos miller before duminy ? and rabada at 8?
 

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Is that a starting 11 plus extras or just 15? cos miller before duminy ? and rabada at 8?
Miller plays his best when he has some time so I have miller ahead of jp in the order but they are interchangeable.

Start lineup + extras. KG and Dale rotated who batted 8 vs aus in the last one day series.

Yes the tail is long but unless we discover a pollock/klusener in the next 5 months then that is what we have. None of the allrounders we have tried in the last year has done the job. They are too inconsistent. So you rather go with the bowler who will do his main then with someone who will do neither of the jobs.
 

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Barring any injuries I recon at this stage the squad is already picked and its just a case of fine tuning in the pakistan and sri lanka odi's.

Reckon the 15 going to the world cup are.

1.Amla
2.QDK
3.Markram
4.Faf
5.Miller
6.JP
7.Mulder
8.Rabada
9.Steyn
10.Ngidi
11.Tahir
12.Shamsi
13.Klaasen
14.Reeza Hendriks
15.Phelukwayo
World cup is in England, I would be tempted to pick 1 spinner. Replace Shamsi with Philander. On a very cloudy overcast day in England play Philander.
 

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England have produced the flatest one day wickets in the last two years.

Loads of scores of 350 plus. England regularly fields 2 spinners due to this.

You need 2 spinners.
 
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