The 911 BBC Blunder

Claymore said:
So totally impeccably planned that they leave behind all these bits of contrary "evidence"? "They" manage to keep silent thousands of co-conspirators, including members of the media, the military, and civilians, but screw up on minor details like forgetting to tell their BBC stooges not to announce a collapsed building before it happens? Yeah, that's credible.
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You point to some of this evidence for a change. Then we can debunk it, instead of vice-versa (what bits of contrary evidence?)

How about an explanation of what exactly was done, by whom, and how, and how that fits all the conspiracy evidence.

I call troll. No-one can be this credulous...
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There are thousands of pages on the web; of plans and timelines. Pick one. None of that obviates a precise set of anomalies and circumstances: a congruency of time and 'circumstance,' which added all together means there should be a free and fair investigation. Which there never has been. Where large realities were ignored and evidence pushed out the window or under the carpet. It stinks. Question is: who is really holding the fish?

//it doesn't require thousands of conspirators. It requires a small dedicated team with friends in high places. It requires pre-planning and a prepared story. It doesn't require 'members of the media, the military, and civilians' it simply requires impeccably executed planning, orders from on high and a gullible media. I mean, who would believe?
 
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kilo39 said:
You point to some of this evidence for a change. Then we can debunk it, instead of vice-versa (what bits of contrary evidence?)
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You tell me. You guys are the ones who found all the "evidence" that you think doesn't fit the official story of events.

//it doesn't require thousands of conspirators. It requires a small dedicated team with friends in high places. It requires pre-planning and a prepared story. It doesn't require 'members of the media, the military, and civilians' it simply requires impeccably executed planning, orders from on high and a gullible media. I mean, who would believe?
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I'm sorry, but many of the things that conspiracy theorists are postulating *would* require the cooperation of thousands of people, and people in extraordinarily strange positions for a covert operation. For example, relatives of passengers on aircraft (not to mention passengers themselves), hundreds of witnesses, mayors, fire chiefs, BBC and CNN people, military aircraft controllers, pilots, missile launch crews, building security, investigation teams, forensics investigators, politicians, etc.

Even odder is that the conspirators somehow managed to keep all the important people quiet, but they're unable to silence a small group of completely unqualified whistleblowers.
 
Claymore: Nobody said it didn't happen. Was not the supposed executors a small team? The reason this team was operating, how they managed to execute it and for what reasons are the issue. Nothing else. The perfect demolition of 3 buildings, the perfectly disappearing video tapes, the perfect cover story. Who else can plan and execute such a mission (because them is not enough to account for all the circumstances, the coincidences.) If it looks like a duck I strongly suspect a duck. But the quack I hear is not a duck; what then is it? :)
 
Well, having not read any of this thread...

Why does the BBC have to be in on it? If it's a cover-up then who's to say US intelligence services or whatever didn't take care of the tapes without the BBC's knowledge?
 
kilo39 said:
Claymore: Nobody said it didn't happen. Was not the supposed executors a small team? The reason this team was operating, how they managed to execute it and for what reasons are the issue.
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"Supposed executors"? Of what? The conspiracy story, or the official one? If the former, it ain't possible. If the latter, they had no need of ridiculously convoluted machinations and cover-ups to make things look a particular way.

Nothing else. The perfect demolition of 3 buildings, the perfectly disappearing video tapes, the perfect cover story. Who else can plan and execute such a mission (because them is not enough to account for all the circumstances, the coincidences.) If it looks like a duck I strongly suspect a duck. But the quack I hear is not a duck; what then is it? :)
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All totally perfect...except that it's filled with holes, according to the conspiracy theorists. Which is it - perfectly executed, or not?
 
a definition of 'perfectly executed' is needed here.

PERFECTLY EXECUTED =

"Allowing the plan to hold together sufficiently, for long enough to justify
fake retaliation against the chosen Enemy."

Now it doesnt matter that there are holes visible, the size of trucks, in
aspects of the story. The troops are overseas, 650 000 Iraqi's or more,
are dead, at least 3500 (and perhaps MUCH MORE) US troops are dead,
Saddam (the former friend of the US) is dead, the country in chaos, the same
lies being raised about the next in line - Iran..

You dont need a PERFECTLY EXECUTED PLAN - just one that initially
persuades sufficient people to go along with what is required, thereafter,
it doesnt matter - because mainstream media wont report the holes too
much anyway, and the memory of the average person is very very shortlived
as far as History goes.

A poignant and relevant quote from Nazi Herman Goerring:

"Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ...Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
(Nuremburg, 1940's)

(This worked in SA - remember the 'Communist menace' - we all were warned about? )
Meantime of course, its the voteless majority wanting equal rights. Ditto America, with the 'war on terror' and 'retaliation' for 911..

Its the same old dusted-off Nazi propaganda model..

Recall the use of the phrase 'Pearl Harbour' - to indicate a totally surprising no warning attack?
Have a look at the Hawaiian newspaper, a week before Pearl Harbour occurred - with headline
"JAPAN MAY STRIKE OVER WEEKEND"
http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/march2007/060307paper.jpg
So much for that historical model of a sneaky unexpected surprise attack.

9/11 Not First Example Of Media Scripting & Foreknowledge?
Were Oswald, Pearl Harbor details leaked ahead of time?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2007/060307mediascripting.htm
 
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Hi
As intriguing as this all is I haven't read the whole post, but have Google given any reason why they removed the video from their websites??
 
technically because of 'copyright violation' as far as I know..
But the video(s) are everywhere now.. if BBC thought they could
make it go away, they were wrong..
Here's an article with lots of links to aspects of the whole saga:
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/march2007/010307mediablacklists.htm

"The crowned kings of censorship Google have "pulled" the News 24 "timestamp" video that shows the BBC reporting the collapse of Building 7 26 minutes before it happened. Meanwhile, the establishment media continues to ignore the WTC 7 farce as a whole, including the inconceivable notion that BBC World have mysteriously lost all their 9/11 footage.

Despite the fact that the clip is under 30 seconds in length and clearly constitutes fair use, Google yanked the video last night after it was prominently featured in our article yesterday. We have replaced the video with a You Tube composite of both the "Jane Standley" footage and the News 24 clip, but for how long this stays active remains to be seen..."
 
Thx LG
People orchestrate wars and downfalls of governments all the time, no monumental leap of faith is really required to fathom that 9/11 could be just one of these events.
2000 souls in exchange for untold billions of dollars business, its cold only cause it was US lives.
If it were Africa it would be a non event :(
 
Holy crap the LoneGunman did a very good job here. Impressed, but also depressed. I missed out on this debate. I post a reply so that people can read this thread... especially since mine on the same matter was closed so abruptly.
 
I watched the new Loose Change -Final Cut- Holy Crap that thing was provocative, a must see.

Also this interview is a must see:
[ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1263677258215075609&hl=en"]Rockefeller Admitted Elite Goal Of Microchipped Population[/ame]
 
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ROFL

Half the ragheads claim 911 was a false flag operation while the other claim and celebrate their "achievement" in the "kill all infidels" campaign.
 
Just remember, it's all a scam no matter which side of the story you are on...
 
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