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The Alfa Romeo 4C Thread
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Shmee's take on the 4C Spider
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Excuse me waiter, there's a spider in my custard.
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Impressed that 2 units were sold last month.
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Overhauled Alfa Romeo 4C planned for 2018 reveal
No manual for the updated 4C, which arrives in 2019 after a late 2018 reveal
The Alfa Romeo 4C carbonfibre sports car will be overhauled in the near future, but it will never be offered with a manual transmission, says Alfa Romeo and Maserati engineering boss Roberto Fedeli.
Speaking at the launch of Alfa Romeo's Stelvio Quadrifoglio, Fedeli confirmed that the lightweight two-seat sports car will be revised with improved suspension and steering, as well as possibly a new engine. A launch in autumn 2018 is likely, with sales commencing January 2019.
The original 4C was heavily criticised by the press for its awkward ride, handling and unpredictable steering. Rather than hasten the 4C’s demise, though, Fedeli - formerly chief engineer at Ferrari - says he wants to make the 4C the car it should be. “We are coming back to Formula 1,” he said, “and we need the 4C to be our halo car.”
However, Fedeli also confirmed that no future high-performance Alfa Romeos, Maseratis or Ferraris will be available with manual gearboxes, citing a lack of demand among buyers. It's likely that Alfa Romeo will seek to steal share from the Alpine A110, as the new sports car launches as a Porsche Cayman rival next year.
Fedeli said his experiences at Ferrari were enough to convince him that the manual transmission was dead. While developing the California roadster several years ago, he says, Ferrari invested €10m in a manual gearbox option and, overall, just two such cars were built for customers.
Ahead of launch, Alfa Romeo will be tweaking the spec of the 4C, adding to the selection of paint colours available on the two-seater.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/overhauled-alfa-romeo-4c-planned-2018-reveal
No manual for the updated 4C, which arrives in 2019 after a late 2018 reveal
The Alfa Romeo 4C carbonfibre sports car will be overhauled in the near future, but it will never be offered with a manual transmission, says Alfa Romeo and Maserati engineering boss Roberto Fedeli.
Speaking at the launch of Alfa Romeo's Stelvio Quadrifoglio, Fedeli confirmed that the lightweight two-seat sports car will be revised with improved suspension and steering, as well as possibly a new engine. A launch in autumn 2018 is likely, with sales commencing January 2019.
The original 4C was heavily criticised by the press for its awkward ride, handling and unpredictable steering. Rather than hasten the 4C’s demise, though, Fedeli - formerly chief engineer at Ferrari - says he wants to make the 4C the car it should be. “We are coming back to Formula 1,” he said, “and we need the 4C to be our halo car.”
However, Fedeli also confirmed that no future high-performance Alfa Romeos, Maseratis or Ferraris will be available with manual gearboxes, citing a lack of demand among buyers. It's likely that Alfa Romeo will seek to steal share from the Alpine A110, as the new sports car launches as a Porsche Cayman rival next year.
Fedeli said his experiences at Ferrari were enough to convince him that the manual transmission was dead. While developing the California roadster several years ago, he says, Ferrari invested €10m in a manual gearbox option and, overall, just two such cars were built for customers.
Ahead of launch, Alfa Romeo will be tweaking the spec of the 4C, adding to the selection of paint colours available on the two-seater.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/overhauled-alfa-romeo-4c-planned-2018-reveal
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ALFA ROMEO SET TO REWORK 4C INTO PROPER ‘HALO CAR’
Alfa Romeo’s engineering chief has revealed that the Italian brand has plans to thoroughly revise its 4C sportscar, with a new engine even under consideration.
Roberto Fedeli, who heads up the engineering departments at both Alfa and Maserati (and was once chief engineer at Ferrari), told Autocar that the update would likely involve an improved suspension set-up and revised steering.
“We are coming back to Formula 1 and we need the 4C to be our halo car,” he told the British publication.
Fedeli also apparently hinted that a new powerplant was under consideration for the lightweight 4C, but ruled out the possibility of adding a manual transmission to the mix, saying there was no demand for this sort of gearbox.
The report added that the revised 4C would likely be revealed in 2018, with sales to commence the following year.
http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/alfa-romeo-set-to-rework-4c-into-proper-halo-car/
Alfa Romeo’s engineering chief has revealed that the Italian brand has plans to thoroughly revise its 4C sportscar, with a new engine even under consideration.
Roberto Fedeli, who heads up the engineering departments at both Alfa and Maserati (and was once chief engineer at Ferrari), told Autocar that the update would likely involve an improved suspension set-up and revised steering.
“We are coming back to Formula 1 and we need the 4C to be our halo car,” he told the British publication.
Fedeli also apparently hinted that a new powerplant was under consideration for the lightweight 4C, but ruled out the possibility of adding a manual transmission to the mix, saying there was no demand for this sort of gearbox.
The report added that the revised 4C would likely be revealed in 2018, with sales to commence the following year.
http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/alfa-romeo-set-to-rework-4c-into-proper-halo-car/
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Whatever Replaces The Alfa Romeo 4C Won't Get A Manual Either
The Alfa Romeo 4C is one of my favorite sports cars you can buy right now—light, loud, fast, laser-focused and kind of weird. But it gets endless grief from enthusiasts, usually those who haven’t driven it, because it has a DCT instead of a proper manual gearbox. Here’s some news from Alfa Romeo: the next one won’t either.
“We’ve come too far to give up who we are.” Most of the time I was driving the Alfa Romeo 4C, I was …
Over at Evo, Alfa Romeo’s chief technical officer Roberto Fedeli said that it’s crucial for the brand to have a true sports car in its lineup. It is “not a choice,” he said. And as good as the 4C is, it faces stiff competition from the newer Porsche Cayman and Boxster and the all-new Alpine A110 in the markets where it is sold.
So maybe, the story says, the 4C’s replacement in the Alfa lineup will be a similar car, or a different kind of sports car. This to me implies they’d consider something like a front-engined sports car as well.
But no matter what happens, a stick shift is not in the cards. From Evo’s story:
‘We have some options,’ explained Fedeli. ‘We have to decide if we want to install a different engine, or switch the architecture’.
Fedeli, who previously served in the role of chief engineer at Ferrari and was instrumental in the development of the talented Giulia and Stelvio models, has ruled out a manual gearbox for the new car however. He confirmed that while he was at Ferrari, the firm poured money into developing a manual gearbox for the then-new California - to sell only two manual cars globally during its lifetime.
Sad, but not surprising.
(By the way: not long ago Jalopnik heard a rumor from a well-placed source that the 4C was set to be discontinued soon due to emissions certification issues. This, however, was vehemently denied by Alfa representatives in both Europe and the U.S. Take that as you will.)
The story does go on to say that a priority for Alfa is replacing the Giulietta hatchback with a newer compact performance car, something Evo says would be intended to rival the Golf R. That sounds very compelling! But the Giulietta isn’t sold in the U.S., and the market for small cars here is increasingly brutal, so who knows if such a car would even make it to our shores.
Fiat Chrysler has ambitious global plans to turn Alfa Romeo into a kind of Italian BMW-fighter, a brand with a wide range of cars that sell in decent volumes. It’s got a long way to go, but sales soared to nearly 10,000 in the U.S. in 2017, according to GoodCarBadCar, helped by the strength of the Stelvio riding the current crossover boom.
I’m glad to hear Alfa is still thinking of compact performance cars and sports cars, even if its bread and butter will have to be the big crossovers and SUVs Americans are buying like mad. Hopefully the brand gets those teething issues sorted out soon too, because it clearly has potential here.
https://jalopnik.com/whatever-replaces-the-alfa-romeo-4c-wont-get-a-manual-e-1821667708
The Alfa Romeo 4C is one of my favorite sports cars you can buy right now—light, loud, fast, laser-focused and kind of weird. But it gets endless grief from enthusiasts, usually those who haven’t driven it, because it has a DCT instead of a proper manual gearbox. Here’s some news from Alfa Romeo: the next one won’t either.
“We’ve come too far to give up who we are.” Most of the time I was driving the Alfa Romeo 4C, I was …
Over at Evo, Alfa Romeo’s chief technical officer Roberto Fedeli said that it’s crucial for the brand to have a true sports car in its lineup. It is “not a choice,” he said. And as good as the 4C is, it faces stiff competition from the newer Porsche Cayman and Boxster and the all-new Alpine A110 in the markets where it is sold.
So maybe, the story says, the 4C’s replacement in the Alfa lineup will be a similar car, or a different kind of sports car. This to me implies they’d consider something like a front-engined sports car as well.
But no matter what happens, a stick shift is not in the cards. From Evo’s story:
‘We have some options,’ explained Fedeli. ‘We have to decide if we want to install a different engine, or switch the architecture’.
Fedeli, who previously served in the role of chief engineer at Ferrari and was instrumental in the development of the talented Giulia and Stelvio models, has ruled out a manual gearbox for the new car however. He confirmed that while he was at Ferrari, the firm poured money into developing a manual gearbox for the then-new California - to sell only two manual cars globally during its lifetime.
Sad, but not surprising.
(By the way: not long ago Jalopnik heard a rumor from a well-placed source that the 4C was set to be discontinued soon due to emissions certification issues. This, however, was vehemently denied by Alfa representatives in both Europe and the U.S. Take that as you will.)
The story does go on to say that a priority for Alfa is replacing the Giulietta hatchback with a newer compact performance car, something Evo says would be intended to rival the Golf R. That sounds very compelling! But the Giulietta isn’t sold in the U.S., and the market for small cars here is increasingly brutal, so who knows if such a car would even make it to our shores.
Fiat Chrysler has ambitious global plans to turn Alfa Romeo into a kind of Italian BMW-fighter, a brand with a wide range of cars that sell in decent volumes. It’s got a long way to go, but sales soared to nearly 10,000 in the U.S. in 2017, according to GoodCarBadCar, helped by the strength of the Stelvio riding the current crossover boom.
I’m glad to hear Alfa is still thinking of compact performance cars and sports cars, even if its bread and butter will have to be the big crossovers and SUVs Americans are buying like mad. Hopefully the brand gets those teething issues sorted out soon too, because it clearly has potential here.
https://jalopnik.com/whatever-replaces-the-alfa-romeo-4c-wont-get-a-manual-e-1821667708
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Pity about the manual. But the people with money to buy performance cars these days seem to prefer DSG-type gearboxes. Makes sense from Ferrari's point of view certainly.
I'd imagine that it's actually much easier to drive if you've just got to flip a paddle and change gears than it would be to try and work a clutch pedal on such massively powerful engines - not that this would apply to the 4C though, it's just got a 1750 Turbo IIRC?
I'd imagine that it's actually much easier to drive if you've just got to flip a paddle and change gears than it would be to try and work a clutch pedal on such massively powerful engines - not that this would apply to the 4C though, it's just got a 1750 Turbo IIRC?
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Yup, the 1750 TBI turbo from the Giulietta.
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Alfa Romeo 6C sportscar is reportedly on the way…
Alfa Romeo is reportedly working on a 6C sportscar.
A fresh report out of Germany suggests that Alfa Romeo plans to add a new 6C sportscar to its growing range, with production of the all-new model expected to kick off in 2020.
Rather interestingly, the rumour comes courtesy of Friedrichshafen-based tuning company, Pogea Racing, which describes its source as “absolute trustworthy and legit”.
The tuner added that the unnamed individual was “very deep into the decisions of the management of Alfa Romeo and all he said in the past became reality”. Pogea Racing furthermore suggested that the 6C would be revealed “probably this or next year”.
Still, little is known of this supposed new sportscar, but as Motor1 points out, it is likely to take the form of a rear-wheel-drive coupé positioned above the 4C (which itself is due a bit of an update). And logic would suggest that power would come from the Italian brand’s latest 2,9-litre V6, as used in the Quadrifoglio versions of the Giulia and Stelvio.
Alfa has, of course, used the 6C badge before, producing a variety of road- and racecars between 1927 and 1954 bearing the name.
http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/alfa-romeo-6c-sportscar-is-reportedly-on-the-way/
Alfa Romeo is reportedly working on a 6C sportscar.
A fresh report out of Germany suggests that Alfa Romeo plans to add a new 6C sportscar to its growing range, with production of the all-new model expected to kick off in 2020.
Rather interestingly, the rumour comes courtesy of Friedrichshafen-based tuning company, Pogea Racing, which describes its source as “absolute trustworthy and legit”.
The tuner added that the unnamed individual was “very deep into the decisions of the management of Alfa Romeo and all he said in the past became reality”. Pogea Racing furthermore suggested that the 6C would be revealed “probably this or next year”.
Still, little is known of this supposed new sportscar, but as Motor1 points out, it is likely to take the form of a rear-wheel-drive coupé positioned above the 4C (which itself is due a bit of an update). And logic would suggest that power would come from the Italian brand’s latest 2,9-litre V6, as used in the Quadrifoglio versions of the Giulia and Stelvio.
Alfa has, of course, used the 6C badge before, producing a variety of road- and racecars between 1927 and 1954 bearing the name.
http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/alfa-romeo-6c-sportscar-is-reportedly-on-the-way/
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Alfa reveals ‘Ring editions of Giulia and Stelvio QV
Alfa Romeo currently holds the Nürburgring lap record for SUVs (with its Stelvio Quadrifoglio), having earlier claimed the fastest time for a sedan (the Giulia QV has since lost the title to the Jaguar XE SV Project 8). And now the Italian automaker has released a pair of special-edition models to celebrate its on-track achievements.
Both the sedan and SUV are lathered in carbon-fibre bits, with each furthermore featuring a dark grey paint scheme and special “NRING” badging. Alfa says it will build just 108 examples of each, adding items such as carbon-ceramic brakes, Sparco racing seats, a Mopar automatic shifter and a steering wheel clad in leather and Alcantara with carbon inserts. Additionally, the Giulia sedan is fitted with an exposed carbon-fibre roof. No changes have been made to the turbocharged 2,9-litre V6 that does duty in both the Giulia Quadrifoglio and the Stelvio Quadrifoglio.
In addition, there are a few more packs revealed for the rest of the Alfa line-up. The Stelvio Super, which boasts the 147 kW/206 kW turbocharged 2,0-litre four-cylinder engine, can now be fitted with a performance pack, adding active suspension, self-locking rear mechanical differential and solid aluminium paddle shifters.
Furthermore, Alfa has announced that the 206 kW Giulia Veloce (which is scheduled to arrive in South Africa in the second quarter of 2018) will soon be available in Ti (“Turismo internazionale”) trim. This adds a black roof, 19-inch five-spoke alloy wheels and red brake calipers, while the cabin gains a leather-clad dashboard with carbon inserts, leather and Alcantara seats with black stitching, and backlit branded kick-plates.
Lastly, Alfa Romeo has revealed Competizione and Italia versions of its 4C Coupé and Spider. The two new variants of the mid-engined performance car gain a matte Vesuvio grey paint with carbon-fibre accents, 18-inch front and 19-inch rear dark-finish five-spoke alloy wheels and Akrapovič titanium exhausts. Inside each, you’ll find a set of leather and microfibre seats, a steering wheel with red stitching and a plaque of authentication. Just 108 units of each model will be produced.
http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/alfa-reveals-nurburgring-editions-of-giulia-and-stelvio-qv/
Alfa Romeo currently holds the Nürburgring lap record for SUVs (with its Stelvio Quadrifoglio), having earlier claimed the fastest time for a sedan (the Giulia QV has since lost the title to the Jaguar XE SV Project 8). And now the Italian automaker has released a pair of special-edition models to celebrate its on-track achievements.
Both the sedan and SUV are lathered in carbon-fibre bits, with each furthermore featuring a dark grey paint scheme and special “NRING” badging. Alfa says it will build just 108 examples of each, adding items such as carbon-ceramic brakes, Sparco racing seats, a Mopar automatic shifter and a steering wheel clad in leather and Alcantara with carbon inserts. Additionally, the Giulia sedan is fitted with an exposed carbon-fibre roof. No changes have been made to the turbocharged 2,9-litre V6 that does duty in both the Giulia Quadrifoglio and the Stelvio Quadrifoglio.
In addition, there are a few more packs revealed for the rest of the Alfa line-up. The Stelvio Super, which boasts the 147 kW/206 kW turbocharged 2,0-litre four-cylinder engine, can now be fitted with a performance pack, adding active suspension, self-locking rear mechanical differential and solid aluminium paddle shifters.
Furthermore, Alfa has announced that the 206 kW Giulia Veloce (which is scheduled to arrive in South Africa in the second quarter of 2018) will soon be available in Ti (“Turismo internazionale”) trim. This adds a black roof, 19-inch five-spoke alloy wheels and red brake calipers, while the cabin gains a leather-clad dashboard with carbon inserts, leather and Alcantara seats with black stitching, and backlit branded kick-plates.
Lastly, Alfa Romeo has revealed Competizione and Italia versions of its 4C Coupé and Spider. The two new variants of the mid-engined performance car gain a matte Vesuvio grey paint with carbon-fibre accents, 18-inch front and 19-inch rear dark-finish five-spoke alloy wheels and Akrapovič titanium exhausts. Inside each, you’ll find a set of leather and microfibre seats, a steering wheel with red stitching and a plaque of authentication. Just 108 units of each model will be produced.
http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/alfa-reveals-nurburgring-editions-of-giulia-and-stelvio-qv/
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