The Alfa Romeo Giulia Thread

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/50-best-new-cars-2017-top-5

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Giulia QV vs M3 Competition Pack vs AMG C63 S - PistonHeads

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As pretty as that M3 is, I'm not sure if I would be able to live with the holes in the front seats, I would regularly have the kids sticking stuff into me through there if I were to own that.

Edit: and after finishing the video I realize sadly why I would never own an Alfa 159, for me, one of the prettiest cars on the road. Really good looks. but I am way to **** scared to buy one, I don't think my wallet would survive.
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As pretty as that M3 is, I'm not sure if I would be able to live with the holes in the front seats, I would regularly have the kids sticking stuff into me through there if I were to own that.

You can buy an F80 M3 without holes in the seat. It is a better family car than the more hardcore F80 M3 CP.
 
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I test drove the Guilia 2.0 T Super (the spec with paddle shifter, leather seats and the 17-inch wheels) yesterday.

Now bear in mind I drive a Guilietta (so my bias towards the brand is obvious) but I was very impressed. It was as if all the issues with previous Alfa's have been resolved. There is still the standard weird driving position where Alfa believes everyone has long arms (thankfully I do).

The ZF gearbox is a thing of beauty. In Dynamic mode it likes to shift at around 5500 RPM. It was my first time using paddle shifters but the experience was awesome. The shifts were so quick that I could not have done better in a manual. Pull of was a lot of fun, not for the Hilux who I beat off the line though. The engine noise was exciting (a thing that is very common with Alfa's) with just enough to make you forget you are just driving a 2.0. When I took corners a little faster than the cute sales woman would have liked the back kicked out just enough but due to the balance I was able to bring it under control very quickly and did not feel out of my depth.

As with the Guilietta, in Dynamic mode there is barely any turbo lag as the ECU does its magic.

At R625 000 its seriously out of my price range, but I plan to go hunting the moment they start appearing on the second hand market. Alfa's lose 50% of their value with even low mileage so that's my plan once the time is right.
 
I remember in the eighties my friend had an Alfa.
It was always a high when we were driving around.......
.....mainly because there used to be exhaust smoke inside the cabin all the time
 
The Alfa Romeo Giulia Is The Perfect Unreliable Italian Car We've Always Dreamed Of

BONG BONG BONG. The dashboard had lit up like a Christmas tree. Power was gone. The whole car started shuddering. We were in a 2017 Alfa Romeo Giulia with just barely 1,709 miles on the odometer, and it was already breaking down.

Have you ever wanted the authentic Alfa Romeo experience? Because we were getting it now.

It’s not like we were doing anything crazy with it, either. If we had just driven it straight into a yawning sinkhole or something, I would totally get it. But we had just left last night’s Are You Faster Than A Jalopnik Writer Event—it went great, by the way, and yes, you are all definitely faster than us—and had pulled onto the highway.

Heading down I-87, the cruise control was set at 64 miles per hour, and there were no other cars on the road in front of us. Everything should have been completely smooth sailing.

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That’s when the breakdown started. The lights came on, the BONGS started BONGING, and the throttle was barely working. I’d give it a light brush, and the car would go into conniption fits, its gearbox bogging and its motor unable to provide acceleration.

We were crawling along at 40 mph in the slow lane, the car refusing to go any faster as a truck roared past us doing 70. It was hard to tell whether the car was in limp mode, or had just begun to refuse the very concept of life itself.

The plan was to pray to our various gods, deities, and empty nothingness, and pull off at the next offramp while the car was still moving. An awkward moment ensued when there was actually a toll booth before the exit, and we didn’t know if the thing would move after coming to a halt.

But it did, crankily, and we pulled into a parking lot. We thought about calling the company that manages Alfa’s fleet, but we realized it was about 11 p.m. already, the car was full of five people, we were far from the nearest train station, and if we didn’t try to get it moving then, it might be a while before we ever made it home.

So we tried what everyone with computers does, and turned it off and on again. That seemed to cure whatever the hell was going on with the car’s jerky tantrum, for the moment.

We thankfully made it back to home base, dashboard lights still ablaze, but with the car (maybe?) in one piece.

I’d love to come out here right now and say “man, sometimes these press cars are thrashed, and they can get weird!” I’d love to say that absolutely nothing could go wrong with developing an entire car in only two-and-a-half years. I’d love to say this was an isolated, one-off incident, but it isn’t.

The fact is, Alfa Romeo’s comeback car has been plagued with problems, and these are increasingly well-documented by the journalists who have been testing them.

Consumer Reports’ Alfa has been to the dealer service bay three times since they bought it. The UK’s Sunday Times had three Giulias crap out on them. Forums abound with reliability issues. Pistonheads had an Alfa Giulia break down in the middle of a test against a Mercedes and a BMW. Motor Trend’s Alfa was completely defeated by a normal driveway. Car and Driver said that their Giulia suffered “foibles.”

And perhaps most damning of all, Road & Track’s Sam Smith said sister mag Car and Driver actually has “an in-house code reader all but earmarked for Alfas, and every test Giulia they’ve seen has had problems.” And then Sam just this morning posted about a Giulia that had broken down on him.

We e-mailed Alfa, and notified them of what happened with our Giulia. They are taking it back to Michigan for diagnosis tomorrow.

But in the meantime, as our car shuffled along like a zombie, I remembered what it was like to always desperately want an Alfa Romeo. I had visions in my head of Europeans slinging cars with chromed intake runners in the engine saying silly Italian words. I remembered what it was like watching Top Gear sling three old Alfas through a series of challenges as they slowly fell apart like decomposing zombies losing limbs.

“Alfa builds a car to be as good as a car can be,” Clarkson said. “Briefly.”

The Giulia genuinely is a solid driver’s car, when it works. If there was any doubt that by returning to our shores Alfa had lost its way, or had forgotten its roots, those fears can all be tossed aside.

The Alfa Giulia really is as good as a car like this can be. Briefly. But if Alfa thinks that’s enough to steal sales from Lexus or BMW, it is very mistaken.

http://jalopnik.com/the-alfa-romeo-giulia-is-the-perfect-unreliable-italian-1796883384

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The Alfa Romeo Giulia is heralding the Italian brand’s comeback to America by embracing its heritage: providing an amazing driving experience while managing to have failures on a regular basis.

Owners are reporting a multitude of issues online, and it seems like every car that gets sent to a journalist has some type of failure that requires a trip back to Michigan.

Despite excellent driving dynamics, the car has gotten a ton of negative press lately, from Jalopnik (whose editors’ Giulia Q2 had to be towed away after just two days) to this gem from hardcore member of the Alfisti, Sam Smith at Road & Track:

I asked C/D’s technical director, Eric Tingwall, if there was a common thread. “They don’t fail with any kind of consistency, in my experience,” he said. “It’s not like there’s just one component that’s causing this. It’s not just Quads, it’s Quads and 2.0-liters, engines and transmissions.”

A few weeks ago, when Tingwall left to test the Alfa Stelvio SUV in Tennessee, he reluctantly packed a code reader in his luggage, assuming it might come in handy.

He didn’t need it, but, “Within two miles of finishing the drive, I’m pulling up to the hotel, and the auto-start-stop icon on the dash lit up with a warning light next to it.”

The failures are widespread, but explanations are far and few between. Luckily, there is one way we can get an inside look at the issues that Fiat Chrysler has been tracking.

How To Track Problems

Tech Authority is a subscription-based Mopar service site that provides dealer-level service information to independent shops and individuals for a small fee.

Selecting the Giulia brings up all the service and parts information along with 11 Technical Service Bulletins (TSBs).

Manufacturers usually release these bulletins for recurring issues that are not safety related. They’re created with input from engineers as well as technicians, and the final repair procedure might be created by either side.

TSBs are recommended repairs for non-safety issues and are usually not applied proactively. A customer has to complain about an issue that matches the description of the TSB in order for the repair to be applied.

The next step up for a TSB at FCA is what is called a Rapid Response Transmittal, or RRT.

In the case of the Giulia, nine of the 11 TSBs listed on the Tech Authority site are marked as RRTs—that means they carry a bit more importance than a standard TSB as they often recognize issues that appear more often and for a specific range of VINs and may be applied by the dealer proactively to unsold cars or ones that might come in for standard service even if there is not a customer complaint.

Let’s run down the issues, shall we?


(Read the full article at the link below).

http://jalopnik.com/here-are-all-the-problems-that-fca-has-attempted-to-fix-1797069082
 
2017 Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio – Redline: Review

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