The Audi RS6 Avant Lovers Thread

Used car buying guide: Audi RS6

Audi’s RS6 Avant weighs more than two tonnes but its V10 delivers a punch like few others. John Evans examines the estate that thinks it’s a supercar

They call it the ‘50p seal’ because that’s what it costs in your hand.

Unfortunately, fitted to an RS6, it costs considerably more – from around £2200 after you’ve taken parts and labour into account. It goes in the oil pump. When it fails, it allows oil to leak onto the driver’s side of the engine’s undertray. When checking over a used RS6, look for oil pooling there and weeping at the back of the engine.

We might as well get that out of the way first. That and the car’s coolant pipes, which, where they run around the wheel arch, are exposed to the elements. In time, they rot and leak fluid. Some garages reckon it’s an engine-out job to fix but others are smarter and can do the work in situ for a fraction of the price. Either way, check these as well before you buy.

And while you’re at it, give the dynamic ride control (DRC) system the once-over. Its hydraulic dampers can leak fluid. Road dirt was blamed for damaging the seals and at one point Audi issued rubber covers to protect them. Check for leaks.

All well? Good because it would be a shame to allow these three well-documented, but mercifully rare, problems to slip through undetected, so spoiling the pleasure of owning one of the most rapid estate cars in existence. (There’s a saloon, too, but the Avant was easily the more popular.)

The RS6 – the C6-series model that ran for just two years, from 2008 to 2010 (it was mildly facelifted in 2009) – is powered by a 5.0-litre V10. It’s force-fed by an intercooler and two turbochargers to produce 572bhp – and 479lb ft torque from 1500rpm all the way to 6250rpm. Quattro four-wheel drive and a six-speed Tiptronic gearbox (so without the brutal launch control system found on some of Audi’s DSG-based S tronic gearboxes) are standard.

Also standard is the aforementioned DRC suspension, a mechanical system that diagonally links the car’s front and rear wheels using hydraulic lines controlled by a central valve.

It’s supplemented with a three-stage variable damping system offering three ride settings: Comfort, Dynamic and Sport. Check it all works.

The RS6 rides on 20in alloy wheels and weighs a smidgen over 2000kg. The cabin must shoulder some of the blame for the car’s scale-crushing portliness. Climate control, a Bose sound system, electric front sports seats, heated front and rear seats, leather trim – you name it. Options included privacy glass, rear sunblinds and soft-close doors. A lot of RS6s have these and more.

They also have a penchant for the hard stuff (expect around 17mpg) and an annual road tax bill of £535. No one said supercar-crushing performance was cheap.

Actually, when you consider prices for 2008-reg RS6s start at around £17,500, you could say exactly that. Check the suspension and the coolant system are sound, make sure you’ve got 50 pence in your back pocket for that oil pump seal, and have a go.

How to get one in your garage:

An expert’s view - MARTIN ADAMS, FOUNDER AND DIRECTOR, UNIT 20:

“I owned a limited-edition RS6 V10 Plus for four years. It had £8000 of options, if you include removing the speed limiter. It was a flying machine –not as raw as the earlier C5 RS6 I owned, but you could really press on. It was a heavy car and, in all honesty, it was a little numb but the four-wheel-drive system meant you could really use the power without getting in a tangle. As I speak, we’ve got four going through the workshop. Usual things: leaky oil pumps and intercoolers, and rusty coolant pipes. But the earliest are nine years old so it’s to be expected.”

Buyer beware...

ENGINE - Oil changes are every 10,000 miles. Audi reckons the major service is every 60,000 but every 20,000 is recommended. Beware the dreaded ‘50p seal’ (see main story). The engine can take a Stage 1 or 2 power boost to 850bhp without strengthening but check the work has been done by a recognised workshop.

COOLANT SYSTEM - Where the coolant pipes run behind the driver’s side wing, they’re exposed to the elements and rust through as a consequence. Some garages claim it’s an expensive engine-out repair but it can be done in situ for around £500.

TRANSMISSION - Tiptronic ’box is tough but check the oil and filter have been changed every 40,000 miles. (It costs around £500.)

SUSPENSION AND BRAKES - Standard hydraulic dynamic ride control (DRC) suspension can suffer leaky shock absorbers. Budget around £600 per corner for parts and labour. Check the suspension hoses linking the system diagonally corner to corner aren’t leaking too. Huge 390mm front brake discs are around £550 each, including pads. Check tyre life since premium rubber is about £250 a wheel.

BODY - Corrosion is unknown, so if you see any, suspect a crash repair. On that subject, check for uneven panel gaps.

INTERIOR - It’s tough but check everything works, including the DRC’s three settings.

Also worth knowing:

Audi will sell you a warranty for your RS6 if it has done less than 100k miles and is unmodified, so buy a high-miler and beat the seller down to recover the warranty cost. As an example, named component cover on one 99,000-mile 2008/08 RS6 Avant with full Audi history is £1514 with a £250 excess. The car’s for sale at £21,000 but its trade value is £16,150 so, depending what it owes the dealer, you could haggle the warranty cost off the price.

How much to spend:

£17,500-£19,995 - The first 2008-reg RS6 Avants, and the odd 2009, from 90k to 120k miles.

£20,000-£22,995 - More tidy 2008 and 2009 Avants with around 80k miles, such as a 2008/08 with 73k miles, full Audi service history and an AA warranty for £22,995.

£23,000-£24,995 - Ditto above but 2009-reg saloons with around 70k miles now in the mix, priced from £24,000.

£25,000-£29,995 - Mainly 2009-reg Avants with less than 50k miles plus some saloons, including a 39k-mile 2010-reg for £29,995.

One we found:

AUDI RS6 AVANT, 2008/08, 73K MILES, £22,000 One-owner RS6 with full Audi service history and black leather interior. Its auction value is around £17,750 so there’s surely scope for a discount. But given its rare and prized one-owner provenance, full Audi service history and low mileage, expect to fight for it.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/used-car-buying-guides/used-car-buying-guide-audi-rs6

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Audi, ABT team up to create crazy RS6 Nagaro Edition

Audi and German tuner ABT Sportsline have teamed up to create a pretty special vehicle called the RS6 Avant Performance Nagaro Edition. Based on the current superwagon, the limited edition model boasts an exclusive exterior colour and, yes, even more grunt from under the bonnet.

The Nagaro Edition essentially pays tribute to RS legends such as the RS2 and original RS4 Avant, which used the same Nogaro blue paintwork and all-wheel-drive. This latest version is kitted out with gloss-black side-mirror caps, tinted rear windows, titanium RS tailpipes and 21-inch black alloy wheels (there’s a choice of two designs) wrapped in 285/30ZR21 Dunlop SP Sport Maxx GT tyres.

Predictably, the cabin also gains a touch of blue, with trim pieces such as the door cards and areas of the centre console finished in blue Alcantara. The seats employ Valcona leather upholstery with blue Alcantara quilting. The steering wheel is trimmed in black suede and the floormats adopt blue contrast stitching and piping. Finally, the carbon-fibre dashboard gains a “one of 150” plaque.

So, what about that extra under-bonnet oomph? Well, the twin-turbo 4,0-litre V8 has been fitted with an ABT control unit, which hikes peak outputs to a whopping 519 kW and 880 N.m of torque. There’s no indication of how much faster to 100 km/h this makes the RS6 (the Performance Pack RS6 achieves it in a claimed 3,7 seconds), but we do know it will now reach a top speed of 320 km/h.

The Audi RS6 Avant Performance Nagaro Edition is limited to 150 units, with each starting at €130 000 (that’s about R1,95-million).

http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/audi-and-abt-team-up-to-create-rs6-nagaro-edition/

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The real estate: Audi’s RS6 vs. SA's SUVs

In the rarefied purchasing stratosphere beyond R1.5m, there are many outstanding performance cars available. Yet none of them matches the uniqueness of a certain Audi.

You’re expecting us to volunteer R8 as the Audi in question, and yes, if you want all the driver appeal of a Lamborghini-type mid-engined supercar, without the anti-social wealth statement, R8 is perhaps the only ‘acceptable’ supercar you can buy in South Africa. But we’re not interested in R8.

Station wagons vs. SUVs

As the first quarter of 2018 has drawn to a close, brands are collating data and totalling sales to analyse whether they are achieving targets. And of all the premium German brands which trade in South Africa, only Audi has the commitment to still try and sell a large station wagon. The RS6.

Despite their superiority in nearly every possible way for most potential owners, South Africans have wilfully ignored the range of excellent stations wagons in favour of SUVs. And unless you drive a lot of gravel, or do a lot of illegal kerb parking, an SUV is always going to be heavier on fuel, tyres, brake pads and have notable less fluid dynamics.

Despite this, the local market is so hostile to station wagons that only Audi still bothers attempting to market them here.

With the RS6 you buy a performance car which is truly unique. There is simply no rival. Some will mention Porsche Panamera Sport Turismo, but that’s more of a hatchback limousine than a true estate car. The RS6 remains a supercar without compromise.

South Africans retain an awfully misplaced notion that station wagons are boring in appearance, yet park an RS6 anywhere and it becomes an Instagram event. The full rear three-quarter proportions. Those wider arches. It has a fantastic presence and a stance of true purpose.

Fantastically quick too, capable of a true 0-100km/h time of 3.8 seconds, which is swift enough to best about anything else you would care to mention. The turbocharged V8 makes a glorious noise as it converts 95 unleaded to 412kW, yet when required, RS6 is a docile machine, perfect for school lift-club.

And that is the unique appeal. If you want something with more than 400kW and real luggage space, you need to buy one of those overpowered performance SUVs, but they are terribly ungainly to drive, capable but never rewarding. RS6 offers a purist driving experience and massive luggage space. It’s a true family friendly supercar, without any of the social stigma attached to owning a high-performance SUV.

This is what makes it so very heartening that Audi is managing to move a couple of these magnificent estate cars each month, to buyers who will suffer absolutely no remorse for their decision. In 2018 thus far, Audi has sold four RS6s, those owners: heroes all.

In a market crowded with 400kW SUVs, sedans and coupes, Audi is the only brand which offers South Africans a proper performance alternative.

A wagon, with 565-litres of luggage space and a van-like 1680-litres of cargo capacity with the rear seats folded. Emergency repairs required at your beachfront cottage 500km away? RS6 can accommodate a ladder in back, and much more, whilst squashing that distance into an easy morning commute.

To truly appreciate the uniqueness of RS6 Avant, and how daring Audi’s marketing is, consider the absence of rivals.

AMG has a nearly insatiable demand for its cars locally, but they are too afraid of South African anti-wagon sentiment to market the C43/63 and E43/63 estate derivatives here. Audi isn’t.

And for those few owners who take option on RS6 Avants, they are secure in the knowledge that they’ve found the golden mean between performance, practicality and that elusive quality in cars beyond R1.5m… Rarity.

And as we all learned in Economics 112, rarity equals value over time.

Audi's take

Audi SA says: "We know that South African consumers have a particular appreciation for high performance vehicles. We introduced improvements to three key models within the Audi Sport range at the end of 2017 (Audi RS 3 Sportback, Audi TT RS Coupé and RS 5 Coupé) and have since seen strong sales within the Audi Sport portfolio.

The Audi Sport models have become resilient competition against its M and AMG counterparts.

https://www.wheels24.co.za/NewModels/the-real-estate-audis-rs6-vs-sas-suvs-20180425
 
Oh God whyyyyy?!

Thanks to that bloke for ruining a freaking lovely R1.6mill super-wagon!

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This crazy wide-body Audi RS6 was built here in South Africa

The folks over at South African firm “Race!” (based in Midrand) have completed their latest creation, a carbon-fibre DarwinPro wide-body Audi RS6 inspired by the automotive tastes of professional skier, Jon Olsson. The local firm used a Nardo Grey 2017 RS6 as the starting point and kicked off the transformation by adding the decidedly extrovert DTM-style aero kit.

The body kit includes an extended front splitter (similar to that seen on some hill-climb racers), a set of wide front fenders, chunky side-skirts, flared rear wheel arches, a hefty rear diffuser and dual rear spoilers (one fitted to the top of the boot lid and the other sited just below the rear window).

The vehicle’s aero kit also features a set of exposed carbon-fibre canards on the nose, above the side-skirts and wheel arches.

Other exterior revisions include an upgraded H&R suspension setup, an Armytrix exhaust system and an AWE Tuning airbox and air intake. A carbon-fibre bonnet has been fashioned with a perspex cut-out to make the twin-turbo 4,0-litre V8 visible to the outside world. Custom wheel manufacturer, ADV.1, says that the matte-and-gloss black ADV7R 21-inch wheels come from its track-spec flagship catalogue, and were machined 21×11-inch front and rear for this specific build.

In its basic state of tune, the RS6 is good for 412 kW and 700 N.m, with a claimed 0-100 km/h sprint time of 3,9 seconds. There is, however, no mention of this specific vehicle’s performance figures

http://www.carmag.co.za/news/this-crazy-wide-body-audi-rs6-was-built-here-in-south-africa/

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That is a terrible way to destroy the look of a car.


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I'd feel like such a twat driving around in that, those spoilers remind me of the kind of stupid sh#t a Corsa 1.3 driver would do to make his car "faster" :crylaugh:
 
Say hello to the (750 kW/1 291 N.m!) ABT Audi RS6-E

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SAY HELLO TO THE (750 KW/1 291 N.M!) ABT AUDI RS6-E…


ABT Sportsline has revealed its new RS6-E prototype.

Published by Ryan Bubear on July 6, 2018
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The folks over at ABT Sportsline are well known for turning Volkswagen Group performance vehicles into, well, absolute monsters. But the latest offering is a little different: meet the ABT Audi RS6-E prototype, which combines a combustion engine with (*gasp*) electric drive.

Thanks to an electric motor installed in the transmission tunnel (delivering extra oomph to the rear axle at the prod of a green button on the steering wheel), this special RS6 generates a whopping 750 kW and 1 291 N.m in total.

Courtesy of an in-house-developed engine control unit and a modified exhaust system, the RS6’s turbocharged 4,0-litre V8 churns out 537 kW (compared with the stock 412 kW). The result is a claimed 0-100 km/h sprint time of just 3,3 seconds and a top speed of 320 km/h.

But this latest prototype furthermore has the ability to supplement this already considerable shove with electric power after the speedometer needle has blasted past 100 km/h, adding an additional 213 kW and 317 N.m “for a short time”. This electric urge comes from what ABT calls a “relatively compact battery with a capacity of 13,6 kWh”.

As you can tell from the accompanying images, ABT has given the prototype a futuristic vehicle film wrap reminiscent of the design of a printed circuit board. The 21-inch alloys, meanwhile, gain special “aero rings”, while the obligatory body kit includes a front lip, front skirt add-ons, side-mirror caps, fender inserts, side-skirt add-ons and rear skirt add-ons, including a rear spoiler.

http://www.carmag.co.za/news/say-hello-750-kw-1-291-n-m-abt-audi-rs6-e/

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