The boot-up showdown

Why does it have to be a war?

Why can't we just keep working to make them both boot faster?

Personally I use both and would like them both to boot fast.

nuff said. Thanks.
 
The question should be, does Win 7 bootup still take relatively little time after using Win 7 for more than 6 months or does it degrade with time. Mac OSX does not degrade, so I doubt Linux does either. Windoze on the other hand, just gets slower..... :)
 
At exactly what point is each OS considered to be fully booted up?

Windows delays loading a lot of things until after a desktop is already showing.
i.e. You may have a desktop showing after 20 seconds but the PC/netbook/notebook may still be thrashing the disk making it near impossible to use for another 30 seconds.

I have no problem with delaying the loading process but if I'm unable to use the device within the specified 20 seconds (or whatever it is) then it's a pointless benchmark.
 
i have win 7 on my home pc. it boots from power button to full desktop in between 17 and 19 sec. and that is a dual core amd 939 with 2 gb of ddr 400. it does have 3 160 gb drives striped for the OS. but it is very, very fast.
 
My PC boots in 3 seconds... Its true... :P Who cares... I normally put the pc on and walk away... And then come back 5 minutes later, so I dont really care if it boots 2 minutes ;)
 
You can still use DOS

but I think boot time is nothing - it's Machine "Use" Time thats important
 
I must admit I don't understand this idea of "my OS boots up faster than yours!"

Honestly Murphy's Law tells us that on the one boot that you need to have the OS up in 30 seconds or less your ubuntu machine is going to want to run fsck, because damnit you've booted 25 times without running it!!

What matters in functionality and stability, I thought 8.04 booted up quickly enough. As long as you aren't sitting waiting for several minutes does it really matter how long it takes?

EDIT: You have posted 25 times without running fsck, fsck will now check your post for errors.
 
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PeterCH said:
The question should be, does Win 7 bootup still take relatively little time after using Win 7 for more than 6 months or does it degrade with time. Mac OSX does not degrade, so I doubt Linux does either. Windoze on the other hand, just gets slower..... :)
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That is because on a machine running windows you can install an endless supply of software to do almost anything you can dream of. As times goes by your typical windows machine ends up with more and more software on it. The simple solutions is just to uninstall something if you do not use.

On Linux you decide what you want to do before you install a flavour of the OS. There are different builds that come prebundled (much like IE does in windows) with various pieces of software that can run on that specific release of Linux. You do not install anything afterwards and you update to a newer version of it within 3 months.

On Mac you can install more software, but the sources of such software is very limited as Mac is used only by stange people that want to do strange things.
 
Rouxenator said:
That is because on a machine running windows you can install an endless supply of software to do almost anything you can dream of. As times goes by your typical windows machine ends up with more and more software on it. The simple solutions is just to uninstall something if you do not use.

On Linux you decide what you want to do before you install a flavour of the OS. There are different builds that come prebundled (much like IE does in windows) with various pieces of software that can run on that specific release of Linux. You do not install anything afterwards and you update to a newer version of it within 3 months.

On Mac you can install more software, but the sources of such software is very limited as Mac is used only by stange people that want to do strange things.
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HAHA That has got to be the best description of those 3 OS's I have ever read.

EDIT: You left out the part about having to uninstall Windows after repeatedly installing and uninstalling various applications due to the chocked registry that (when left for a while) becomes too much of a mess to clean out.
 
Initial bootup time is really irrellevant as you still need to install apps. And in Windows case, if you not careful in the options you choose when installing apps, you gonna have millions of things loading while you waiting for the desktop and for the pc to actually become usable.

And if the app is bad coded, it's gonna kill your bootup time without your help anyway.
 
porchrat said:
You left out the part about having to uninstall Windows after repeatedly installing and uninstalling various applications due to the chocked registry that (when left for a while) becomes too much of a mess to clean out.
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I have XP installations going on to their 6th year now. Ccleaner helps keep your registry nice and clean. I also sometimes check the event logs to see if something is causing issues.

The bad reputation windows has is not because it is inferior to Mac or Linux - in fact it is because it is by far superior to them. Windows is so accessible anyone can use it and install what ever junk they want on it. It is that compatible. The reason why some installation become unstable a few months down the line and other last for 6years+ is because some people know how to look after such a highly flexible OS.

If Linux and MacOS where even half as accessible as windows they would have had far worse ratings by end users.
 
Rouxenator said:
I have XP installations going on to their 6th year now. Ccleaner helps keep your registry nice and clean. I also sometimes check the event logs to see if something is causing issues.

The bad reputation windows has is not because it is inferior to Mac or Linux - in fact it is because it is by far superior to them. Windows is so accessible anyone can use it and install what ever junk they want on it. It is that compatible. The reason why some installation become unstable a few months down the line and other last for 6years+ is because some people know how to look after such a highly flexible OS.

If Linux and MacOS where even half as accessible as windows they would have had far worse ratings by end users.
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This isn't a discussion about which is better and which is worse, there are enough of those ranty arguments around as it is. It is about which one boots up faster and quite frankly my answer is that they all boot up fast enough for my needs (and I would like to believe the needs of the average user) so therefore why are we constantly striving to make them boot faster?

Exactly when will it be fast enough? Are we 10 years down the line going to be measuring these boot times to fractions of a second, claiming that Linux has one-upped Windows again because it can boot 0.06 split-seconds faster or vice versa. Surely the developers have more important things to consider than boot times?
 
I would love to know why there is a war about booting time, i mean seriously who gives a crap if a pc boots 10 seconds faster?

Does it really make our lives worth living knowing that windows 7 boots up 10 seconds faster than vista or ubuntu boots up 1 second faster than windows 7.
 
SlyFly said:
My PC boots in 3 seconds... Its true... :P Who cares... I normally put the pc on and walk away... And then come back 5 minutes later, so I dont really care if it boots 2 minutes ;)
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I agree! :cool:
Who cares .. as long as does it in less than 5 minutes then what's the fuss all about?

Unless of course if you need to keep rebooting it :p


Rouxenator said:
Windows is so accessible anyone can use it and install what ever junk they want on it. It is that compatible.
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Um.. it's not Windows which is "that compatible" it's just that far more software vendors release software which is compiled for Windows - try running a binary compiled for another OS on Windows and you'll see just how "compatible" it really is.. :rolleyes:


Oh and by the way, I after installing my Linux OS have installed gigabytes (literally) of additional software.. ;) .. and it made 0 difference to the boot-up time :p not that I give a heck anyway :rolleyes:
 
redarrow said:
Oh and by the way, I after installing my Linux OS have installed gigabytes (literally) of additional software.. ;) .. and it made 0 difference to the boot-up time :p not that I give a heck anyway :rolleyes:
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Wait until linux grows up and gets a registry.
 
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