The Brexit Thread

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Normal chat between 2 Tory MPs.

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Dave said:
Yes, you shouldn't really indulge in lies...



There's even video of him at the link:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...unds-live-health-service-u-turn-a7102831.html
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You've gone very quiet, [MENTION=49882]NarrowBandFtw[/MENTION]. Something the matter? Cat got your tongue?

In completely unrelated news, Farage is the highest-earning British MEP: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/10/nigel-farage-seventh-on-list-of-meps-outside-earnings - this after he claimed to be "skint" while living in a 4 million pound townhouse. Perhaps his issue is that his MEP salary has been docked for misspending public funds?

But hey, we already know Farage is a standup guy who would never tell a lie, this must all be left-wing conspiracies. Poor old Nigel is certainly not doing any of this for his own gain.
 
Dave said:
Yes, you shouldn't really indulge in lies...
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Thanks, a specific quote where he divorces himself from the 350 mil figure. Sure he says it is "higher", he still never put an actual figure to it. I so enjoy it when we can work together to find proof of each others statements instead of countering it :)

The_Assimilator said:
You've gone very quiet, [MENTION=49882]NarrowBandFtw[/MENTION]. Something the matter? Cat got your tongue?
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Did you even bother to look at the time? It's called sleeping, my sincerest apologies for not staying up extra late just in case there's a forum post I might want to reply to ...

The_Assimilator said:
In completely unrelated news, Farage is the highest-earning British MEP
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and? You wouldn't be attempting to taint a man's character by implying his income has anything to do with his desire to have a free and independent Britain now would you? The two concepts are entirely separate form each other, as Farage himself has pointed out many times, if he succeeds in his political goals he would no longer receive any income, he wouldn't have a political job. There would be no EU parliamentary membership whatsoever. Surely income derived from private activities is his business as long as it is legal?

The_Assimilator said:
But hey, we already know Farage is a standup guy who would never tell a lie, this must all be left-wing conspiracies. Poor old Nigel is certainly not doing any of this for his own gain.
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Who has ever claimed that? Farage is merely more "real" than any of the phukwits actively trying to go against the will of the people, it's a pity the bar is so low that even he appears to be a "standup guy", not his fault the bar is that low though ...
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
Thanks, a specific quote where he divorces himself from the 350 mil figure. Sure he says it is "higher", he still never put an actual figure to it.
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You think he didn't put an actual amount to it? Did you read the link?

“Do you know what I’d like to do with the £10 billion? I’d like that £10 billion to be spent helping the communities in Britain that [the] Government damaged so badly by opening up the doors to former communist countries. What people need is schools, hospitals, and GPs.
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f2wohf said:
Max Hastings' (Johnson's ex boss at the Daily Telegraph) opinion of Boris:
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So many words to say what everyone already knows; Boris is a knob!

Gotta laugh at the last bit though:
Britain has abandoned any residual aspiration to be viewed as a serious nation
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As if that ship hasn't sailed, sunk and rusted decades ago :D
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
I did, and he never put any NHS specific figure anywhere. The 10 billion figure is merely a characterization of the net contribution the UK made to the EU over the last couple of years, which is more or less accurate:
https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/
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Could I offer you some new straws to clutch onto?

Nigel Farage said:
Do you know what I’d like to do with the £10 billion? I’d like that £10 billion to be spent helping the communities in Britain

What people need is schools, hospitals, and GPs.
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Who do you think the hospitals and GP's funded by the UK government belong to?

The Boy Scouts, NASA or the NHS?
 
Dave said:
Could I offer you some new straws to clutch onto?
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You're the one clutching here, Farage never claimed the 350mil figure, original statement stands entirely unchallenged. Here's a straw for you.

Dave said:
Who do you think the hospitals and GP's funded by the UK government belong to?
The Boy Scouts, NASA or the NHS?
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Wow, had no idea the NHS owns schools or GPs, surely owning another human is slave labour and not a thing anymore ...
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
You're the one clutching here, Farage never claimed the 350mil figure, original statement stands entirely unchallenged. Here's a straw for you.


Wow, had no idea the NHS owns schools or GPs, surely owning another human is slave labour and not a thing anymore ...
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First off, I didn't mention 350m, simply that Farage had also promised a Brexit "dividend" (which he knew never existed) in the run up to the referendum.

So who do you think pays for the GP network in the UK? You've just shown yourself up to be as ignorant of the actual situation as I thought you were.

https://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/AboutNHSservices/doctors/Pages/NHSGPs.aspx

Maybe you should stick to the politics of the ANC...
 
Dave said:
First off, I didn't mention 350m, simply that Farage had also promised a Brexit "dividend" (which he knew never existed) in the run up to the referendum.
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Head back to the start and read it all carefully, including the quotes: https://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/866714-The-Brexit-Thread?p=21786207&viewfull=1#post21786207

Note how I never said you mentioned it, yet it was mentioned, you just jumped in to defend the lie ;)

Dave said:
Maybe you should stick to the politics of the ANC...
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Maybe you should head back to English comprehension 1-0-1 :D
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
Head back to the start and read it all carefully, including the quotes: https://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/866714-The-Brexit-Thread?p=21786207&viewfull=1#post21786207

Note how I never said you mentioned it, yet it was mentioned, you just jumped in to defend the lie ;)
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You stated he'd never made a claim of Brexit "savings" being spent on the NHS, when he did exactly that on tv, just before the referendum.

Maybe you should head back to English comprehension 1-0-1 :D
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Even if I did that, it would be 101 places above your abilities, you didn't even know that GP's were part of the NHS...
 
Dave said:
You stated he'd never made a claim of Brexit "savings" being spent on the NHS, when he did exactly that on tv, just before the referendum.
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False, try again, I stated he didn't make "the above claim" and that above claim was a direct quote that stated "the NHS 350 million pounds card won't work as well a second time around"

Then when we get to the tv bit, your own article quotes him as saying he wouldn't spend that on NHS directly. Clear cut.
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
False, try again, I stated he didn't make "the above claim" and that above claim was a direct quote that stated "the NHS 350 million pounds card won't work as well a second time around"

Then when we get to the tv bit, your own article quotes him as saying he wouldn't spend that on NHS directly. Clear cut.
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You seem to ascribe to the position that if you say a lie often enough you hope people will eventually think you're talking the truth?

I’d like that £10 billion to be spent helping the communities in Britain

What people need is schools, hospitals, and GPs.
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That's directly on the NHS...
 
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British apparently don't agree with the supposed main reason for Brexit!
 
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