The Brexit Thread

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My take
The low class are suffering horrible austerity impact so blame it on immigrants = Brexit

The very rich want to evade upcoming eu tax law, or won’t be affected so pro Brexit

Most middle class taxpayers enjoying being part of eu so anti Brexit

Then you get the ones who think Brexit will revive the old empire = Brexit

Then overall you have the most unequal class system in the 1st world

Nobody’s going to get what they want after this, maybe this thread will even fork
 
Sollie said:
Just to upset some, a Lauren Southern Youtube in the EU parliament? No. Obviously some will throw a hissy fit, Lauren Southern, never!

But even an Islamic leader from Australia congratulated her on it.

Changing My Mind On Immigration - My EU Speech

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Very good balanced take on this. Thanks for sharing!

This is what journalism is suppose to be, 100% balanced with the view from all sides. Journalism in it's totality has been corrupted by various sides left and right.
 
Pitbull said:
Very good balanced take on this. Thanks for sharing!

This is what journalism is suppose to be, 100% balanced with the view from all sides. Journalism in it's totality has been corrupted by various sides left and right.
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That’s what wires are supposed to be (AP, Reuters, AFP).

Newspapers and media always lean on one side or the other.
 
No wonder Corbyn has changed his attitude so suddenly.

Northern Labour voters back Brexit second referendum move by 75%

Three quarters of Labour voters in the north and midlands who expressed a preference backed the party's move towards a new referendum

Northern Labour voters overwhelmingly back the party’s shift towards a new Brexit referendum, a fresh poll has found.

More than 75% of people who voted Labour in 2017 and expressed a preference backed the move, according to a YouGov poll for the People’s Vote campaign.

Some 35%, said the policy change to push for a new Brexit vote made them feel more favourably towards Labour, while 14% said it made them feel less so.

The survey of 5,000 voters across the North, Yorkshire and Humber and the Midlands found that 76% would support staying in the EU, with 24% against.

If it was a choice between Remain and backing Prime Minister Theresa May's Withdrawal Agreement, the split would be 81% to 19% in favour of staying in the EU, according to the survey.

Only 14% of those polled wanted their MP to back the Government's proposed terms for leaving the EU.

And more than two thirds, 68%, said it was more important to maintain frictionless free trade than control immigration, while 17% disagreed with the statement.

Peter Kellner, former president of YouGov, said: "The myth that Labour voters in the party's heartlands favour Brexit is just that - a myth.
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/northern-labour-voters-back-brexit-14080600
 
Sollie said:
Just to upset some, a Lauren Southern Youtube in the EU parliament? No. Obviously some will throw a hissy fit, Lauren Southern, never!

But even an Islamic leader from Australia congratulated her on it.
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Stab in the dark - the "Islamic leader" you're referencing is Imam Tawhidi?

Dude's a very obvious grifter. Some more.
 
source: https://www.altnewsmedia.net/topica...ges-group-article-they-dont-want-you-to-read/
On Monday July 9th 2018, several leading French, German and Dutch senior managers were called by EU officials to an urgent meeting.
The meeting was said to be private and those present were informed that Prime Minister May and Chancellor Merkel had reached an Agreement over Brexit. Knowledge of this was attained from the actual transcript of the meeting between May and Merkel.
1) The Agreement was couched in a way to ‘appease’ the Brexit voters.
2) The Agreement would enable May to get rid of those people in her party who were against progress and unity in the EU.
3) Both Merkel and May agreed that the likely course of events would be that UK would re-join the EU in full at some time after the next general election.
4) May agreed to keep as many EU laws and institutions as she could despite the current groundswell of ‘anti-EU hysteria’ in Britain (May’s own words, apparently.)
5) Merkel and May agreed that the only realistic future for the UK was within the EU.
The original Agreement draft was completed in May 2018 in Berlin and then sent to the UK Government Cabinet Office marked ‘Secret’.
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hmmmmmm, very curious if true, treacherous even ...
 
Pitbull said:
I see May's deal is going down in fire again today :ROFL:
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Yup. I can't imagine the pressure the Attorney-General must have been under by Treason May and her entourage to change his legal advice.

Imagine having so little self-awareness that you are unlikely to resign despite your flagship policy being defeated not once but twice.
 
Pitbull said:
I see May's deal is going down in fire again today :ROFL:
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Problem is they expect / want it to fail so they can end up cancelling brexit altogether.

Vote no on May's "deal", vote against "no deal" thereafter, vote yes to delay brexit and around we go until nobody cares and brexit is no more.

The only real hope here seems to be a few EU countries dissenting and refusing the UK's pending delay request.
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
The only real hope here seems to be a few EU countries dissenting and refusing the UK's pending delay request.
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Except that would likely lead to a unilateral withdrawal of the current article 50 declaration, I wouldn’t have thought that was something you’d approve of.
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
Problem is they expect / want it to fail so they can end up cancelling brexit altogether.

Vote no on May's "deal", vote against "no deal" thereafter, vote yes to delay brexit and around we go until nobody cares and brexit is no more.

The only real hope here seems to be a few EU countries dissenting and refusing the UK's pending delay request.
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Well from what I've read, it can really be extended until the end of June due to EU elections - it would be effectively illegal to extend beyond that because the new EU parliament sits on the 1st of July and you can't be part of the EU and have no political representation. The re-allocation of seats has already been done etc.

A Brexit delay of longer than two months could be illegal unless the UK elects new MEPs, lawyers are warning, appearing to torpedo Theresa May’s strategy.
Article 50 cannot be extended beyond the end of May unless the UK takes part in fresh European parliament elections, according to a legal opinion issued by the German Bundestag.
The conclusion came amid fresh evidence that the exit talks remain in trouble, with a lack of progress that might persuade MPs to approve the prime minister’s deal.

The controversy over European elections is crucial because Ms May told MPs a delay to June would be possible without a U-turn on withdrawing MEPs – if parliament forces her to abandon the 29 March deadline.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...sa-may-european-parliament-meps-a8803546.html
 
Dave said:
Except that would likely lead to a unilateral withdrawal of the current article 50 declaration, I wouldn’t have thought that was something you’d approve of.
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Wouldn't approve of that, just looking for the last vestiges of hope for a proper brexit. If it is officially delayed it will never happen, that's a given.

If the delay request is denied there's at least a slim chance that the UK parliament grows a spine and pushes back properly.
 
Chris_the_Brit said:
Well from what I've read, it can really be extended until the end of June due to EU elections - it would be effectively illegal to extend beyond that because the new EU parliament sits on the 1st of July and you can't be part of the EU and have no political representation. The re-allocation of seats has already been done etc.
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If it's delayed even by a single day it is game over.
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
Wouldn't approve of that, just looking for the last vestiges of hope for a proper brexit. If it is officially delayed it will never happen, that's a given.

If the delay request is denied there's at least a slim chance that the UK parliament grows a spine and pushes back properly.
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No deal is a crazy idea and there’s a significant majority against it from most parties, and a lot of the electorate are against the idea as well now (every news segment on the tv news here has a new bad news story relating to no deal).

Pushing a no deal exit through would likely destroy the Conservative Party for generations and they know that.
 
Dave said:
No deal is a crazy idea and there’s a significant majority against it from most parties, and a lot of the electorate are against the idea as well now (every news segment on the tv news here has a new bad news story relating to no deal).
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No deal isn't crazy at all, giving away your only trump card is crazy. Certainly most politicians are against it, they're against brexit in general of any kind anyway, no surprise there. The public have been turned against it because of those "news" segments you mention.

Fact is hard brexit is the only way to negotiate with the EU properly, and it isn't some permanent state either, something all the fear mongers gloss over. Just because you don't have a deal in place now doesn't mean you can't put one together, hell you'd put a much better one together when the EU knows you mean business.

Dave said:
Pushing a no deal exit through would likely destroy the Conservative Party for generations
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Another benefit of no deal brexit!
 
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