The Brexit Thread

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Pitbull said:
Yea was talking about from our point of view. Rand v Pound was similar around mid 2015. We still doing ok, so the UK is still doing ok. I want to see when and where this omfg, UK is doomed is going to happen.
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You're comparing it to the Rand?!!
Lol. Why don't you just pick the kwanza or Congolese franc instead?

You have doomed it, now that you start to compare it to a 3rd world economy
 
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imranpanji said:
You're comparing it to the Rand?!!
Lol. Why don't you just pick the kwanza or Congolese franc instead?
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Haha, I wonder how many currency pairs he selected before settling on the ZAR for comparison! :D
 
imranpanji said:
You're comparing it to the Rand?!!
Lol. Why don't you just pick the kwanza or Congolese franc instead?

You have doomed it, now that you start to compare it to a 3rd world economy
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Not at all.

Are you any way worse off than 2015?
Definitely not some kind of recession everyone was predicting now is it? The UK will be fine, they have been through far worse. I just love how people predicted doom and gloom when they are still way better off than we are and yet even with a massive foreign policy change have lost nothing but a year or two when it comes to economic forecast.

All the lefties are now trying their utmost to find something to cling onto in the "hope" that some kind of prediction was right. Now with the right stepping out of the shadows all the fear mongering from the left is proven to be nothing but hot air. So more and more people are now moving out of the shadows. The left needs something to go very wrong to pull the right back into their comfort zones. But it's not happening. I can tell you why, because the right will make it work at ALL costs.

The world needs less PC bullshyte, face the facts and tackle them head on. No more pussy footing around issues for decades hoping it will go away. It hasn't and never will.

So once again I will say it. The British people voted for Brexit, and they will make it work. They made their choice, now accept that and move on. Help them instead of trying to bring them down...
 
Pitbull said:
Not at all.

Are you any way worse off than 2015?
Definitely not some kind of recession everyone was predicting now is it? The UK will be fine, they have been through far worse. I just love how people predicted doom and gloom when they are still way better off than we are and yet even with a massive foreign policy change have lost nothing but a year or two when it comes to economic forecast.
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Yes, I am worse off. Mine and my wife's UK investments and savings have lost more than 30% in a year. It's not that far off from what we have lost in SA as well since nenegate

The fact that you were using a pound comparison with the rand as a sign of its strength is a clear indication that you more than clueless about this.

The only thing I hear you say is lefties, blah blah blah. That seems to be your entire argument, and an excuse to keep your head In the sand

Are you aware that Brexit has not even actually started. So the UK is operating in exactly the same way it has before. But some companies are already making moves out.

So there has been no completed trade negotiations​, no new rules in place. You act as if it's already happened
 
JayM said:
So you picked the first one...even more scientific ;)
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Doesn't matter now does it?

Failing to see the UK being in complete shambles and on the bring of another recession like in WW2. O wait...
Yea that was a prediction from your scientific brothers on the left wasn't it? :D :D :D

And now 6 months on?

Please, you guys are so desperate it's sad not even funny no more.
 
JayM said:
So you picked the first one...even more scientific ;)
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Sends me a duh link to Google, despite me posting a link from Google

Then blames Google for the mistake. Maybe Google was being PC, that leftist website!
 
imranpanji said:
Yes, I am worse off. Mine and my wife's UK investments and savings have lost more than 30% in a year. It's not that far off from what we have lost in SA as well since nenegate

The fact that you were using a pound comparison with the rand as a sign of its strength is a clear indication that you more than clueless about this.

The only thing I hear you say is lefties, blah blah blah. That seems to be your entire argument, and an excuse to keep your head In the sand

Are you aware that Brexit has not even actually started. So the UK is operating in exactly the same way it has before. But some companies are already making moves out.

So there has been no completed trade negotiations​, no new rules in place. You act as if it's already happened
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You seem to be oblivious to the facts staring right at you for some reason... I can only wonder why :confused:
Some of the world's most biggest companies are supporting the move doubling down on their investment there. They are obviously just as clueless...

I'll just show myself out to came and laugh at you guys again.

As for your investments in the UK, if you left you funds there even with the doomsayers pre-brexit vote. You deserve the losses. Others pulled out and are re-investing now. I suggest you get someone to manage your investments better ;)
 
Pitbull said:
You seem to be oblivious to the facts staring right at you for some reason... I can only wonder why :confused:
Some of the world's most biggest companies are supporting the move doubling down on their investment there. They are obviously just as clueless...

I'll just show myself out to came and laugh at you guys again.

As for your investments in the UK, if you left you funds there even with the doomsayers pre-brexit vote. You deserve the losses. Others pulled out and are re-investing now. I suggest you get someone to manage your investments better ;)
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Alternative facts? Nah, I don't do them And according to your logic, I apparently did well. Because SA is doing well


And regarding investments, you should read up on them as well. Not all investments are easily movable, and I hedge my funds in different countries for that very reason. You should do the same
 
Brexit will provide excellent new opportunities for businesses in the UK. These "experts" who spout doom and gloom are only interested into what goes into their back pocket
 
British MPs overwhelmingly approve bill to begin Brexit

London – British MPs overwhelmingly backed a bill on Wednesday empowering Prime Minister Theresa May to start negotiations on leaving the European Union, bringing Brexit a significant step closer.

Members of the House of Commons voted by 494 votes to 122 for a law enabling May to trigger Article 50 of the EU's Lisbon Treaty, which begins two years of talks on pulling out of the 28-nation bloc.

"We've seen a historic vote tonight – a big majority for getting on with negotiating our exit from the EU and a strong, new partnership with its member states," said Brexit minister David Davis.

The unamended two-clause bill now moves to the House of Lords, where there may be more opposition from unelected peers, and where May's Conservative party does not have a majority.

But its passage through the Commons, where two-thirds of MPs had campaigned against Brexit ahead of the June referendum, puts May on course to begin the withdrawal process by the end of March, as she has vowed.

The referendum result sent shockwaves around Europe, spooking investors and raising fears for the future of the EU itself.

In the early weeks, there was speculation that pro-European lawmakers might try to delay or even stop the Brexit process.

Labour headaches

May initially sought to bypass parliament, prompting an appeal to the Supreme Court that last month ruled she must obtain their approval to trigger Article 50.

But during five days of debate on the resulting government bill, it became clear that most MPs would not stop the process – even if some warned that leaving Europe's single market could be disastrous.

The opposition Labour party and the smaller Scottish National Party (SNP) tabled amendments demanding guarantees on market access, workers' rights and those of EU citizens in Britain.

Each was defeated, although during the process the government was forced to promise lawmakers a vote on the final Brexit deal before it is concluded.

Labour imposed a "three-line whip", a tough disciplinary measure ordering its MPs not to oppose the legislation, ensuring it would pass.

But some 52 Labour MPs rebelled in Wednesday's vote, including business spokesperson Clive Lewis who resigned shortly beforehand, bringing a fresh headache for embattled leftist leader Jeremy Corbyn.
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More at: http://www.news24.com/World/News/british-mps-overwhelmingly-approve-bill-to-begin-brexit-20170209
 
Still need to pass the House of Lords but since it was passed so overwhelmingly, I hope no funny business happens there.

Then we're off. Teresa May has given herself a deadline of 31 March to trigger Article 50 and in two years the UK can be a free and self-governing nation again!

The future is bright.
 
What exactly was the vote on 1 Feb for though? Do the British officials have to vote on everything three times before making a decision?!?

Anyway, couple of weeks to go before the bremoaners have to finally admit defeat then.
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
What exactly was the vote on 1 Feb for though? Do the British officials have to vote on everything three times before making a decision?!?

Anyway, couple of weeks to go before the bremoaners have to finally admit defeat then.
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Some uber-rich Remoaner lawyer took a case to the Supreme Court saying the PM can't trigger Article 50 without consent of Parliament.

So they needed to vote on a Bill giving Theresa May the authority to invoke it.
 
Chris_the_Brit said:
So they needed to vote on a Bill giving Theresa May the authority to invoke it.
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Yeah I got that bit, I just don't get the sequence:

1 Feb the MPs voted on this
8 Feb the House of Commons voted on this
20 Feb the House of Lords will debate this and vote on it afterwards

So a lower house and upper house both have to vote, fine, but why three votes in the sequence, isn't it usually just two (Commons and Lords)?
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
Yeah I got that bit, I just don't get the sequence:

1 Feb the MPs voted on this
8 Feb the House of Commons voted on this
20 Feb the House of Lords will debate this and vote on it afterwards

So a lower house and upper house both have to vote, fine, but why three votes in the sequence, isn't it usually just two (Commons and Lords)?
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Ignore Chris, he's just on one of his right wing anti-remain moans.

Simplifying it, it goes Commons - Committee - Commons for amendments - lords - committee - lords - assent.

Edit, here's the explanation from parliament.uk

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ponder said:
Royal Assent :D

We all know the Queen is not going to veto it so why even bother with the ceremony.
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It's a rubber stamp on any legislation. Technically assent can be withheld for any bill, but she knows that wouldn't end well for the monarchy ;)
 
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