The Brexit Thread

[NarrowBandFtw]

This is bunk though, the majority of the press (particularly the gutter press) has been pro-Brexit. The bottom line is the leave campaign told just enough lies to swing it their way, and now the UK is the basket case of Europe, and things are only going to get worse.

Eh? During the campaign I saw more anti-Brexit press than pro. The weak attempt by Obama to say the UK will be at the back of the line, the Bank of England cooking up all sorts of numbers of doom and gloom should Brexit come to pass. The EU mouthpieces threatening all manner of backlash.

Those things were on BBC, The Guardian, Sky, Financial Times 24/7 and positioned as a dire warning to Brits not to vote for Brexit. Honestly as far as I could tell the vast majority of the press were anti-Brexit.

 

[DragonMolester]

LOL

 

[Dave]

Eh? During the campaign I saw more anti-Brexit press than pro. The weak attempt by Obama to say the UK will be at the back of the line, the Bank of England cooking up all sorts of numbers of doom and gloom should Brexit come to pass. The EU mouthpieces threatening all manner of backlash.

Those things were on BBC, The Guardian, Sky, Financial Times 24/7 and positioned as a dire warning to Brits not to vote for Brexit. Honestly as far as I could tell the vast majority of the press were anti-Brexit.

Maybe if you were a little more local you'd realise the tabloids were rabidly pro-Brexit, the broadsheet press were more anti-Brexit. You do know what I mean by tabloids and broadsheets, don't you?

 

[JayM]

Maybe if you were a little more local you'd realise the tabloids were rabidly pro-Brexit, the broadsheet press were more anti-Brexit. You do know what I mean by tabloids and broadsheets, don't you?

Telegraph were also leave...

 

[Dave]

Telegraph were also leave...

True, the broadsheets were more anti in general, but as you say the Telegraph was leave, iirc the Times ran both leave and remain biased stories at times.

The majority of the tabloids were hysterically leave though, I *think* the Mirror was an exception (or am I imagining that happened?)

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Maybe if you were a little more local you'd realise the tabloids were rabidly pro-Brexit, the broadsheet press were more anti-Brexit. You do know what I mean by tabloids and broadsheets, don't you?

Who cares what the tabloids say though? Aren't those the things people use as toilet paper when they've run out?

Perhaps I'm not local enough as you say, didn't know anyone with a functioning brain actually reads the tabloids.

 

[The_Assimilator]

Who cares what the tabloids say though?

The majority of the people who voted for Brexit, apparently.

 

[Dave]

Who cares what the tabloids say though? Aren't those the things people use as toilet paper when they've run out?

Perhaps I'm not local enough as you say, didn't know anyone with a functioning brain actually reads the tabloids.

You seriously are clueless about the reach of the tabloids, not really your fault as you're in Cape Town, I suppose.

The top selling papers are all tabloids, the Sun and the Daily Mail being #1 and #2 with over 3 million readers between them.



http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/natio...year-the-sun-is-fastest-riser-month-on-month/

 

[The Voice]

For those who've never been to London at every Underground and Overland station in the mornings and evenings there are stacks of free newspapers (usually Metro or Evening Standard - think there's one more in circulation but the name escapes me). The day before and on the morning of the referendum the Metro had a red front page with "Vote Remain" in big, bold lettering. That would've been seen (and potentially read) by millions of people. I took a photo of it, but will need check on my HDD if I can find it - had to transfer stuff off of it a while ago.

Edit: thanks, Google!

 

[The Voice]

You seriously are clueless about the reach of the tabloids, not really your fault as you're in Cape Town, I suppose.

The top selling papers are all tabloids, the Sun and the Daily Mail being #1 and #2 with over 3 million readers between them.

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http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/natio...year-the-sun-is-fastest-riser-month-on-month/

Makes sense. They target the working class, who many reckon are the ones who swung the vote in Leave's favour. Sun mainly because of Page 3 (always has a picture of some "fit bird"), while the Mail is probably for everyone else - I tend to read it for the lols sometimes, as it tends to swing which ever way the public wills it to, left or right.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

You seriously are clueless about the reach of the tabloids

Undoubtedly, if the measure for reach is purely sales / distribution figures. I question the actual influence a rag like The Sun could possibly have on its readership.

Hell one look at their homepage right now reveals that every second headline is a naked someone or other being caught doing something stupid. That's not the kind of publication that is taken seriously when it comes to a topic like brexit surely?!? People read it mostly for the Huisgenoot style laughs and the odd soft porn pic I'd imagine and they consult other publications for serious discourse.

 

[Dave]

Undoubtedly, if the measure for reach is purely sales / distribution figures. I question the actual influence a rag like The Sun could possibly have on its readership.

Hell one look at their homepage right now reveals that every second headline is a naked someone or other being caught doing something stupid. That's not the kind of publication that is taken seriously when it comes to a topic like brexit surely?!? People read it mostly for the Huisgenoot style laughs and the odd soft porn pic I'd imagine and they consult other publications for serious discourse.

You'd be wrong, the Sun is a pretty influential paper.

And spending lots of money to keep themselves looking respectable.

 

[The_Assimilator]

That's not the kind of publication that is taken seriously when it comes to a topic like brexit surely?!?

You refuse to read "the MSM" because you claim it's biased and can't be trusted, yet you cannot comprehend that the working class refuse to read anything other than trashy tabloids for the exact same reason.

Are you for real?

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

You'd be wrong, the Sun is a pretty influential paper.

Very well, then I imagine the imbeciles who allow themselves to be influenced by such a rag should never have been entrusted with a vote as important as Brexit at all. Not for 'leave' and not for 'remain' either.

Ditto for the gullible imbeciles who salivate over the doom prophecies spewed by the likes of the BBC and The Guardian. So where would the vote land if we prevent all these idiots from voting in the first place?

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

You refuse to read "the MSM" because you claim it's biased and can't be trusted, yet you cannot comprehend that the working class refuse to read anything other than trashy tabloids for the exact same reason.

Are you for real?

Are you? Reading something is not the same as trusting something ...

 

[Dave]

Very well, then I imagine the imbeciles who allow themselves to be influenced by such a rag should never have been entrusted with a vote as important as Brexit at all. Not for 'leave' and not for 'remain' either.

It wasn't just the Sun, the Express and Mail were as bad, if not worse.

 

[Hamish McPanji]

For those who've never been to London at every Underground and Overland station in the mornings and evenings there are stacks of free newspapers (usually Metro or Evening Standard - think there's one more in circulation but the name escapes me). The day before and on the morning of the referendum the Metro had a red front page with "Vote Remain" in big, bold lettering. That would've been seen (and potentially read) by millions of people. I took a photo of it, but will need check on my HDD if I can find it - had to transfer stuff off of it a while ago.

Edit: thanks, Google!

And Londoners largely voted remain

 

[The Voice]

And Londoners largely voted remain

I imagine the fact that "White British" no longer makes up the majority demographic in the capital had something to do with it. Thing to remember with London is that because of it's cosmopolitan nature it's hugely liberal, and swings heavily to the left (election results were mostly Labour and we have a Muslim mayor), whereas the rest of the country comes across as more Conservative - the referendum results mostly backed that up.

 

[Dave]

I imagine the fact that "White British" no longer makes up the majority demographic in the capital had something to do with it. Thing to remember with London is that because of it's cosmopolitan nature it's hugely liberal, and swings heavily to the left (election results were mostly Labour and we have a Muslim mayor), whereas the rest of the country comes across as more Conservative - the referendum results mostly backed that up.

I doubt the Mayor got his job for being Muslim, more likely because he was a popular Labour figure...

 

[The Voice]

I doubt the Mayor got his job for being Muslim, more likely because he was a popular Labour figure...

It was a hint at the cosmopolitan nature of the city, and how minorities now make up a large portion of its population - the majority of whom probably voted for Khan a) because he was a prominent Labour figure and b) because he was a Muslim (who else would the Muslims have voted for, if not one of their own?). Electing him instead of "generic white guy X" was a step forward for the city, and indeed the country in a way.