The Brexit Thread

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Michel Barnier reaffirming what is common sense (don’t reap the benefits without the constraints):

To avoid any confusion between the EU backstop & the UK customs paper: I reiterate that our backstop cannot apply to whole UK. 4 freedoms are indivisible. This is not a rejection of the UK customs paper on which discussions continue. #Brexit

https://twitter.com/michelbarnier/status/1005077429621350400?s=21
 
Latest YouGov poll:
Con 44 (+2)
Labour 37 (-2)
LD 8 (-1)

Conclusions:
May is made of Teflon.
Corbyn is a disaster.
Cable isn’t our Macron.
 
A few things were pointed out to me from May's recent speech, looks like the hard Brexit wanted by the hard right is starting to crumble.

When we leave the EU, the Withdrawal Bill will bring EU law into UK law. That means cases will be determined in our courts. But, where appropriate, our courts will continue to look at the ECJ’s judgments, as they do for the appropriate jurisprudence of other countries’ courts.

So, a hint that the ECJ isn't really going anywhere, leading into:

We will also want to explore with the EU, the terms on which the UK could remain part of EU agencies such as those that are critical for the chemicals, medicines and aerospace industries: the European Medicines Agency, the European Chemicals Agency, and the European Aviation Safety Agency.

https://www.gov.uk/government/speec...-economic-partnership-with-the-european-union

So that red, white and blue hard Brexit seems to be running down the plug hole, bit by bit...
 
Latest YouGov poll:
Con 44 (+2)
Labour 37 (-2)
LD 8 (-1)

Conclusions:
May is made of Teflon.
Corbyn is a disaster.
Cable isn’t our Macron.

The Tories fare badly with the youth vote. Corbyn is banking on the youth vote. However he is his own worse enemy and it won’t take long before they tire of him. He probably has until the end of the year to make inroads or else he won’t be there at the next general election.
 
I’m wondering if it’s a coincidence, fake news or irrelevant!

Russia has no interest whatsoever in sowing disunity and raising nationalism in Europe, it would be spurious to affirm it.


Revealed: Brexit backer Arron Banks’s golden Kremlin connection

The hidden scale of Kremlin links to the biggest donor to the Brexit campaign are revealed today.

Arron Banks, the millionaire businessman who helped fund Brexit, was offered a business deal involving six Russian goldmines.

He also had undisclosed meetings with the Russian ambassador to Britain — set up by a suspected Russian spy — and paid a previously unknown visit to Moscow at the height of the campaign.

The revelations raise explosive questions about attempts by Moscow to influence the referendum result.

Emails by Banks and his sidekick, Andy Wigmore, shown to The Sunday Times, reveal the men made repeated contact with Russian officials to discuss business opportunities and issues of mutual interest during the referendum campaign and its aftermath.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...on-bankss-golden-kremlin-connection-7nbwc7m58
 
I’m wondering if it’s a coincidence, fake news or irrelevant!

Russia has no interest whatsoever in sowing disunity and raising nationalism in Europe, it would be spurious to affirm it.




https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...on-bankss-golden-kremlin-connection-7nbwc7m58

Most of the story is behind the paywall. Full article, and further connected articles are available at:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/8pwqxs/revealed_brexit_backer_arron_bankss_golden/

They don't paint a pretty picture of the amount of collaboration comrade Bankski and Wigmore gave the Russians (and the connections between Banks, the Russians and Trump).
 
Brexit law faces crucial UK parliament vote

British Prime Minister Theresa May faces a knife-edge vote in parliament today on her centrepiece Brexit legislation, despite her last-minute warning that defeat risks undermining her negotiations with Brussels.

MPs in the lower House of Commons will vote on a raft of amendments produced by the upper House of Lords, including one at around 1500 GMT that would give parliament an effective veto over Brexit.

Just hours before the vote, the pressure on May cranked up when a pro-EU ..

Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...l-uk-parliament-vote/articleshow/64557147.cms
 
A true patriot!
[MENTION=6443]Chris_the_Brit[/MENTION]

Fund founded by Rees-Mogg sets up post-Brexit vehicle in Dublin


The fund management company where Jacob Rees-Mogg is a partner has set up a fund in Dublin, as asset managers worry about being cut off from European investors after Brexit.

Mr Rees-Mogg, the Conservative MP and firm Brexit supporter, has long argued that the UK will be better off outside the EU.

But Somerset Capital Management, the investment house he co-founded, received approval from the Irish regulator in March for a version of its £1.4bn Somerset Emerging Markets Dividend Growth fund. The news was first reported in Private Eye.

Mr Rees-Mogg is a shareholder of the company, but does not make investment decisions.

“A number of existing and prospective clients requested Irish domiciled access to Somerset’s products. The decision to launch the Fund was nothing whatsoever to do with Brexit,” said Oliver Crawley, a partner at Somerset.

Several British asset managers have recently set up operations in Dublin or Luxembourg, Europe’s largest fund centres, as they prepare to serve European investors after Brexit.

Legal & General Investment Management, the UK’s largest asset manager with £1tn, recently opened an office in Dublin and received approval from the Central Bank of Ireland, the regulator, to launch a range of funds for EU clients.

Meanwhile, Columbia Threadneedle, the £362bn fund group, and M&G, which manages £351bn, both announced plans to transfer money managed in the UK on behalf of EU clients into funds domiciled in Luxembourg.

The route Somerset has taken, setting up an Irish collective asset management vehicle, or Icav, was made possible by Irish regulators in 2015 to allow fund companies to set up legal structures in Ireland that outsource the management of the funds to professionals in other countries, typically the UK.

The Somerset Icav “feeds” into the master or main version of the fund, which is based in the UK. Well known investors such as Neil Woodford have also taken this route, along with LGIM, Axa Investment Managers, Fidelity, JPMorgan and M&G.

Within its prospectus, Somerset warned its Irish fund could face challenges because of the UK’s withdrawal from the EU, warning of “considerable uncertainty” in the period before and after Brexit.

“The impact of such events on a fund is difficult to predict but there may be detrimental implications for the value of certain of the fund’s investments, or its ability to enter into transactions or to value or realise such investments,” the prospectus adds.

It also warned that the Irish fund might need to be restructured in the event that the UK leaves the EU without an agreement on its relationship with the union.

Somerset, which was founded in 2007 as an emerging markets specialist, runs a total of £7.2bn split across seven strategies.

The emerging markets dividend growth fund is down 3.6 per cent this year, compared with a negative return of 2.7 per cent for its benchmark index. Over five years it is up 43.6 per cent compared with 48.8 per cent for the index.

https://www.ft.com/content/38987fe2-6f19-11e8-92d3-6c13e5c92914
 
Jaguar Land Rover Prepares for New Era Moving SUV From U.K.

Jaguar Land Rover is moving all production of its Land Rover Discovery SUV to Slovakia from a plant near Birmingham, England, which will be retooled to accommodate a new generation of electric cars.

Britain’s biggest carmaker, owned by India’s Tata Motors Ltd., will create a new factory platform at its Solihull plant that will enable the production of cars in electric, gasoline and diesel versions, said people familiar with the matter, asking not to be named because the information isn’t public. All Discovery production will be gone from the U.K. by early 2019.
 
As usual, much ado about nothing really.

Tory MP Jacob Rees-Mogg defends his firm setting up fund in Ireland ahead of possible 'hard Brexit'

He said in a statement: "A number of existing and prospective clients requested domiciled access to Somerset's products. The decision to launch the fund was nothing whatsoever to do with Brexit."

Mr Rees-Mogg added that his firm had funds based all over the world, including in Australia, the US and the Cayman Islands, and that "people outside the EU are used to Irish domiciled funds".

He said the warnings of the risks of Brexit were "not a policy statement by SCM" but simply guidance to investors which had been drafted by lawyers.

Mr Rees-Mogg co-founded and owns a stake in SCM, for whom he still acts in a part-time role. He does not make investment decisions.
 
I have a feeling that this wasn’t quite the original deal...

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Even Nigel confirms (was he drunk to tell the truth?).

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Always lovely to read about a politician who actual gets it, and a youngster as well! Good that he is also having a go at the Tory traitors (Clarke, Soubry, Grieve et al.) who despite standing on the 2017 Conservative election manifesto to leave the CM and the SU, are trying to frustrate the process. Hell, Corbyn is more committed to delivering Brexit than these Tory rebels!

Tory MP, 33, eloquently sums up Brexit argument in 442-word Commons speech

A 33-year-old Conservative MP has been applauded for delivering an eloquent speech in the House of Commons, in just two minutes and using only 442 words, which summed up the importance of delivering a Brexit deal for which the UK voted.

Simon Clarke, who was elected Member of Parliament for Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland in June 2017, took just two minutes to cut through the Brexit argument put forward by MPs who are convinced the UK should remain in the single market and the customs union.

Cutting straight to the point, Mr Clarke passionately summed up the “simple concept” of Brexit, warning that failing to respect the referendum result could be a “cataclysmic mistake” which could fuel extremist politics.

“It seems to me that Brexit is in fact quite a simple concept,” he said in the Commons. “My constituents knew that they were voting for three things: to have control of our immigration policy, to leave the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice and to determine our trade policy.That is why it is so essential that we leave both the single market and the customs union. Neither institution is compatible with delivering what my constituents and our country voted for.”

He also attacked Remainer Anna Soubry who had earlier urged MPs to advocate the case for immigration and "suck it up", saying: “Suck it up: there is no alternative that has been advanced in this place other than the customs union, the single market.”

Mr Clarke continued: “That is why I stand in frank disbelief at the nature of some of the comments we have heard this afternoon. I always regret what is called blue-on-blue action, but I cannot stand by the comments made by my right hon. Friend the Member for Broxtowe (Anna Soubry), who said that we have to ‘suck it up’. My constituents voted to leave the European Union precisely because they were not going to suck it up and because they knew what they wanted, which is for us to leave the European Union.

He added: “Fidelity to that vote, to our voters and to the promises that are implicit between the governing and the governed is essential to the health of our democracy, not just in the context of this debate but for the years and centuries that stretch ahead. It is clear to me that, as the right hon. Member for Don Valley (Caroline Flint) said, if we break faith and ignore their voice we will have created the most almighty problem for ourselves. Indeed, we will have lost the chance to have a more sensible debate about issues such as immigration, which have stirred such passions. We will only ever be able to get to a place where we can have a more balanced and constructive conversation once we have accountability in this House for who comes to our country and on what terms.

“With that in mind, we have to recognise, when we hear comments about how this is playing to extremists, that the real danger with extremism in our politics is if we ignore what people voted for. We have seen in Germany, in Italy and even in the United States what happens when people believe that their voice is not being respected. That is the danger here—because, my goodness, we will look back on this as the most cataclysmic mistake if we unleash some of the forces which are all too eager for this House to fail to deliver what the British people voted for. That is my warning to colleagues, and that is why I will categorically not vote for any amendment that fails to deliver the Brexit that this country demands.”
 
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Always lovely to read about a politician who actual gets it, and a youngster as well! Good that he is also having a go at the Tory traitors (Clarke, Soubry, Grieve et al.) who despite standing on the 2017 Conservative election manifesto to leave the CM and the SU, are trying to frustrate the process. Hell, Corbyn is more committed to delivering Brexit than these Tory rebels!

Tory MP, 33, eloquently sums up Brexit argument in 442-word Commons speech

He’s wrong from the first sentence. Nobody voted for a Brexit deal, the British voted for a Brexit.
 
He’s wrong from the first sentence. Nobody voted for a Brexit deal, the British voted for a Brexit.
I think therein lies the problem: while the public were required to vote to leave or remain, they were never consulted with regards to what the eventual outcome should be once we'd left. It was all left to the government to (badly) figure out - next week it's 2 years since the referendum was decided, and they still don't have a clue what they're doing. It's comical at times and it almost seems as if they're doing it on purpose to get us the worst possible deal, in an "I told you so" type of way.

Ideally, they should have drafted 3-4 different plans, and held a referendum to allow the public to decide which would be the best way forward. Once that was done, the government could focus on it full time to work out all the details to take the UK back out into the wild world.

This will inevitably spell the end of the Tories. It also means that Labour will come into power again but they unfortunately won't be able to do a much better job.
 
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