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Gingerbeardman said:
I was under the distinct impression that the troubles were because the UK didn't want to let Ireland go...
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No, the British position is that the status of Northern Ireland rests entirely with the Northern Irish, a majority wished/wish to remain in the Union with Great Britain, a minority want to unite with Ireland, both sides used violence to further their view, hence the Troubles.
 
Chris_the_Brit said:
Now...are no confidence votes by secret ballot I wonder...
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It appears they are by secret ballot, unfortunately not looking good for your side though.

Theresa May has enough support from Conservative MPs to win a vote of confidence in her leadership tonight, Sky News analysis suggests.

A total of 158 Tory MPs have publicly said they will continue to back her as leader - but as the ballot is secret, they could vote differently behind closed doors.

The party has 315 seats, meaning the prime minister needs 158 votes - a simple majority of half of its MPs plus one - to back her.

MPs will vote between 6pm and 8pm tonight, and the result is expected to emerge at about 9pm.
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https://news.sky.com/story/mps-reveal-whether-they-support-or-oppose-pm-11578536?
 
Dave said:
MPs will vote between 6pm and 8pm tonight, and the result is expected to emerge at about 9pm.
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WTF, they can have a no confidence vote announced, voted and concluded in the space of a day, but May's pathetic "deal" needed weeks of posturing?!?
 
Dave said:
Weeks? That’s optimistic...
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I meant the timeline from when she announced the first time "this is as good as it gets, let's vote" until the scheduled vote which was ultimately cancelled.

That was weeks at least, and for no particular reason other than buying time to drum up support, they could just have voted and have it done with like with this no confidence vote.
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
I meant the timeline from when she announced the first time "this is as good as it gets, let's vote" until the scheduled vote which was ultimately cancelled.

That was weeks at least, and for no particular reason other than buying time to drum up support, they could just have voted and have it done with like with this no confidence vote.
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Other than the fact it was doomed to failure from the moment the words were uttered?
 
This no confidence vote is not a Parliamentary thing. Its a party thing. Based on party rules. And the threshold for no confidence by Tories has building for ages. The first letters started quite some time ago.
 
Dave said:
Other than the fact it was doomed to failure from the moment the words were uttered?
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Sure, but that's her problem, she reckoned it was ready to vote on, so vote.

Think it was announced on 26 Nov and the vote only scheduled for 11 Dec? That's bs, nothing changed in the interim, nor was it ever going to, just vote ffs.
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
Sure, but that's her problem, she reckoned it was ready to vote on, so vote.

Think it was announced on 26 Nov and the vote only scheduled for 11 Dec? That's bs, nothing changed in the interim, nor was it ever going to, just vote ffs.
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Amazingly, I actually agree with you.
 
OrbitalDawn said:
Meanwhile...

EU-Japan trade agreement on track to enter into force in February 2019
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It’s quite funny how many of those seem to favour the UK economy as well :p

The agreement will, in particular:

  • eliminate duties on many cheeses such as Gouda and Cheddar (which currently are taxed at nearly 30%) as well as on wine exports (currently at 15% on average);
  • allow the EU to substantially increase its beef exports, and open additional opportunities for export of pork products;
  • ensure the protection in Japan of more than 200 Geographical Indications (GIs), high-quality European traditional food specialities, and the protection of a selection of Japanese GIs in the EU;
  • remove tariffs on industrial products in sectors where the EU is very competitive, such as cosmetics, chemicals, textiles and clothing;
  • commit Japan to international car standards, with the result that EU exports of cars to Japan is made significantly easier;
  • open services markets, in particular for financial services, e-commerce, telecommunications and transport;
  • guarantee EU companies access to the large procurement markets of 54 large Japanese cities; remove obstacles to procurement in the economically important railway sector.
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theratman said:
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-politics-46533245

Theresa May remains Tory leader after surviving confidence vote

The PM won 200 votes, but 117 MPs voted against her

The result was greeted by cheers and applause from Tory MPs

The BBC's Laura Kuenssberg says the margin of victory is a "real blow" to the PM's authority
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theratman said:
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-politics-46533245

Theresa May remains Tory leader after surviving confidence vote

The PM won 200 votes, but 117 MPs voted against her

The result was greeted by cheers and applause from Tory MPs

The BBC's Laura Kuenssberg says the margin of victory is a "real blow" to the PM's authority
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Strange.

When she was elected to PM on less votes, the media fell over themselves in praise and applause. Heralding in a new era, with comparisons to Thatcher and promises that she would be the one to bring the Unicorn of Brexit for all too see.
 
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