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Chris_the_Brit said:
The UK can revoke unilterally, yes, but it would come at an astronomical political price, especially for the Tories (there are local elections in May this year). Payback at the ballot box would be swift. There is no functioning party to the right of the Conservative just yet (UKIP imploded after Farage left and now has some dodgy characters running it).

The EU's chief negotiator, Michel Barnier, was saying the other day that No Deal is not off the table, regardless of what the UK parliament has voted on. And legally speaking, No Deal is not off the table yet (the motion they voted on was not legally binding).
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What's this about local erections in May?
 
Hamish McPanji said:
What's this about local erections in May?
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if you manage to get it up for May, I salute you sir!

a fistful of viagra, a line of coke and a good 30min of the hottest hoe's at mavericks grinding and fluffing would not be able to produce a hardon that can live through seeing that face afterwards for most men ...
 
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-20/its-fking-mess-pound-slides-may-requests-brexit-extension
Speaking in Brussels, Donald Tusk said that the approval of May's request for a brief Article 50 extension is 'possible' but would be conditional on a Commons vote in support of the withdrawal agreement (note: the agreement has already been twice rejected by the Commons, which has also already voted in favor of an extension). Meanwhile, Tusk said he 'does not foresee' an extra EU summit to focus on the Brexit catastrophe, though, if there's movement on passing the WA, he wouldn't rule out a meeting of the European Council.

In summary, Tusk said EU is prepared to let it go down to the wire - and if the UK can't pass May's withdrawal agreement, then no dice on the extension.
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Bless you EUSSR, finally you're doing some good in the world, albeit only out of spite / by accident.
 
I see the EU has finally told the UK they need to accept deal or **** off

I reckon they will stall and end up with a hard brexit / no deal. And we thought SA was the only ones with a dumb parliament who thinks everyone owes them.
 
krycor said:
I see the EU has finally told the UK they need to accept deal or **** off

I reckon they will stall and end up with a hard brexit / no deal. And we thought SA was the only ones with a dumb parliament who thinks everyone owes them.
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The major dumb exists at 10 Downing Street.
 
C4Cat said:
How so?
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She’s just too stupid (or obstinate) to take heed that she’s pushing a plan that is hated by both sides. She just won’t stop and reassess and realise that a complete reset is required.

From what is said, she takes no advice from most advisers and even senior party members are essentially ignored (it was said she will sit and pretend to listen, as soon as the person leaves she disregards everything that they said).

She’s the complete antithesis of what the country needs.
 
Well from what I’ve seen, each sector want different things, the Northern Ireland issue and in combo the arrogance of expecting EU to bend over backwards it was never really gonna work. I think the EU and speaker in UK realized it’s going nowhere and business certainty albeit way too late is arguably better.

7ish days to go? Fun times.. as I think there will be a rush for those that don’t want full exit.
 
krycor said:
I reckon they will stall and end up with a hard brexit / no deal
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If the EU stick to their guns i.e. refuse a new deal and refuse an extension without the old deal
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If the UK stick to theirs i.t.o. not accepting the twice rejected deal

Then there's still two possible outcomes, hard brexit sadly remains the least likely outcome of the two. More likely that the UK unilaterally revokes article 50.
 
Dave said:
She’s just too stupid (or obstinate) to take heed that she’s pushing a plan that is hated by both sides. She just won’t stop and reassess and realise that a complete reset is required.

From what is said, she takes no advice from most advisers and even senior party members are essentially ignored (it was said she will sit and pretend to listen, as soon as the person leaves she disregards everything that they said).

She’s the complete antithesis of what the country needs.
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Thing is, though - from what I can see there is literally nothing else that can be done. So what good would a 'reset' do? That's what the EU is saying (and the Speaker, essentially). There's a deal, take it or leave it. Parliament chose to reject it. They can't also lay the blame at May's feet if they rejected the only 2 options available.

So either revoke Article 50, or accept No Deal is happening, and prepare accordingly.

I see Labour have also claimed they want the extension period to negotiate a 'better deal' - which is also fantasy land stuff.
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47652071
A petition calling on Theresa May to cancel Brexit by revoking Article 50 has attracted more than half a million signatures.

Parliament's petitions website crashed on Thursday morning because of the high volume of traffic.
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A House of Commons spokesperson said the site crashed on Thursday morning because of "a large and sustained load on the system".
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C4Cat said:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47652071
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Margaret Anne Georgiadou, who started the petition, told the BBC: "I became like every other Remainer - very frustrated that we've been silenced and ignored for so long.
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errr ... so your vote in the actual referendum was discarded? how have you been ignored?

"We need to put a stop to this claim by proving the strength of public support now, for remaining in the EU. A People's Vote may not happen - so vote now."
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oh I see, brain dead and brain washed, "the people" already voted retard, there was a referendum in 2016 in case you didn't notice
 
https://order-order.com/2019/03/21/foreign-actors-hijack-article-50-petition-fake-signatures/

A petition backed by all of the faces who had been pretending to care about holding another referendum for the sake of ‘democracy’ have been sharing a new petition entitled ‘Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU.’ They’re not even bothering to pretend to be democrats any more…


The petition saw a suspicious jump in signatures last night, with blatantly fake signatures arising everywhere from Russia, to Afghanistan, to North Korea. Tens of thousands of signatures have also come from EU states including Jean Claude Juncker’s tiny Luxembourg…

Signatures have even come from non-country ‘Western Sahara’, and Vatican City. Remainers are using sham numbers, dodgy foreign actors, and disinformation…
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OrbitalDawn said:
Thing is, though - from what I can see there is literally nothing else that can be done. So what good would a 'reset' do? That's what the EU is saying (and the Speaker, essentially). There's a deal, take it or leave it. Parliament chose to reject it. They can't also lay the blame at May's feet if they rejected the only 2 options available.

So either revoke Article 50, or accept No Deal is happening, and prepare accordingly.

I see Labour have also claimed they want the extension period to negotiate a 'better deal' - which is also fantasy land stuff.
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When I say a reset, I mean a totally clean slate, all red lines rubbed out, a cross party group established to take it forward (and not May). They could even go as far as revoking Art 50 and resetting the process right to the start, get the negotiations for exit done and agreed before even thinking of submitting another Art 50 (as should have happened the first time).
 
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