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Onto more important news, Boris calling for an early election tomorrow. Woot Woot.

You do realise that Bojo doesn’t have the power to call an early election, don’t you?

Maybe have a look at the Fixed Term Parliament Act and see who does have that power.
 
The 21 Tories who will have the whip removed and be banned from standing in the next general election - the usual suspects...with a few added on. Mostly in safe seats and thus need to be replaced by true Brexiteers!!! I remember when Rory Stewart was being excitedly touted by leftie media types as the next Tory leader. Oops.

 
This is spot on.

The argument that Boris Johnson is genuinely trying to strike a deal with the EU is “absurd”, according to the former Conservative minister, Ken Clarke, who has told Newsnight:

He’s obviously not trying to get a deal. I’m sure he’d prefer one if he thought he could get one past his right-wing supporters but he’s dug himself in. He assumes he’s going to get no deal because he can’t get the right wing of the Conservative party, many of them now stuck in his cabinet, to agree to it.
 
Recap of Boris Johnson's first day in parliament as Prime Minister:

○ First Prime Minister ever to lose their first parliamentary vote (328-301)
○ Loses control of the parliamentary order paper.
○ Roundly battered from all sides, with Ken Clarke, Jeremy Corbyn, and Ian Blackford of the SNP getting particularly hard hits in.
○ Scottish court presented with evidence that Johnson and Cummings were secretly plotting to shut down parliament as they lied to the public that they had no such plans.
○ A Tory MP gets up and crosses the chamber in the middle of Johnson's speech!
○ Johnson's pick as Leader of the Commons Jacob Rees-Mogg roundly condemned for his arrogant and contemptuous behaviour.
○ Apparently drunk Dominic Cummings yells a load of rattled gibberish at Jeremy Corbyn in a parliamentary corridor.
○ Johnson trying to call a snap election amidst the chaos, but highly unlikely to be able to deliver it unless he takes No Deal By Default off the table first.
○ Throws Ken Clarke, Philip Hammond (Tory Chancellor until a few weeks ago), Winston Churchill's grandson, and 18 others out of the Tory party!
○ Tory-DUP majority collapses from +1 to -43.

He's only been in the job a few weeks and he's making rigidly inflexible, profoundly incompetent, and miles out of her depth Theresa May look like a pillar of strength and stability in comparison!
 
Roundly battered from all sides, with Ken Clarke, Jeremy Corbyn, and Ian Blackford of the SNP getting particularly hard hits in
I'm sure he lost a lot of sleep over comments from commies ...

A Tory MP gets up and crosses the chamber in the middle of Johnson's speech!
pre-planned and staged as hell, meh

Johnson's pick as Leader of the Commons Jacob Rees-Mogg roundly condemned for his arrogant and contemptuous behaviour.
When those worthy of your contempt moan about your contempt, it really rolls like water off a duck's back I imagine.

unless he takes No Deal By Default off the table first.
Which merely serves to demonstrate the complete and utter ineptitude of the pathetic parliament, still not coming to terms with the simple fact that nobody in the UK, not BJ, not parliament, not even the f-ing Queen can take "no deal by default" off the table.

It is the legislative effect of how Article 50 works, keep faffing around and it happens, guaranteed. Unless the EU does you a favour and extends it yet again.

He's only been in the job a few weeks and he's making rigidly inflexible, profoundly incompetent, and miles out of her depth Theresa May look like a pillar of strength and stability in comparison!
Far from it, he is exposing how rigidly inflexible, profoundly incompetent and miles out of their depth the members of parliament are. May was placating this pathetic circus, an approach that ensures failure, never placate a pathetic circus!
 
I'm sure he lost a lot of sleep over comments from commies ...


pre-planned and staged as hell, meh


When those worthy of your contempt moan about your contempt, it really rolls like water off a duck's back I imagine.


Which merely serves to demonstrate the complete and utter ineptitude of the pathetic parliament, still not coming to terms with the simple fact that nobody in the UK, not BJ, not parliament, not even the f-ing Queen can take "no deal by default" off the table.

It is the legislative effect of how Article 50 works, keep faffing around and it happens, guaranteed. Unless the EU does you a favour and extends it yet again.


Far from it, he is exposing how rigidly inflexible, profoundly incompetent and miles out of their depth the members of parliament are. May was placating this pathetic circus, an approach that ensures failure, never placate a pathetic circus!
I'm kind of missing the claims that BoJo is playing 99D chess.
 
I'm kind of missing the claims that BoJo is playing 99D chess.
Cute, except even a beginner chess player would quickly have figured out by now you don't announce your every move in advance and let your opponent mop the floor with you.

The UK parliament has yet to figure it out, BoJo, or whoever has his ear, at least seem to know that much.
 
Recap of Boris Johnson's first day in parliament as Prime Minister:

○ First Prime Minister ever to lose their first parliamentary vote (328-301)
○ Loses control of the parliamentary order paper.
○ Roundly battered from all sides, with Ken Clarke, Jeremy Corbyn, and Ian Blackford of the SNP getting particularly hard hits in.
○ Scottish court presented with evidence that Johnson and Cummings were secretly plotting to shut down parliament as they lied to the public that they had no such plans.
○ A Tory MP gets up and crosses the chamber in the middle of Johnson's speech!
○ Johnson's pick as Leader of the Commons Jacob Rees-Mogg roundly condemned for his arrogant and contemptuous behaviour.
○ Apparently drunk Dominic Cummings yells a load of rattled gibberish at Jeremy Corbyn in a parliamentary corridor.
○ Johnson trying to call a snap election amidst the chaos, but highly unlikely to be able to deliver it unless he takes No Deal By Default off the table first.
○ Throws Ken Clarke, Philip Hammond (Tory Chancellor until a few weeks ago), Winston Churchill's grandson, and 18 others out of the Tory party!
○ Tory-DUP majority collapses from +1 to -43.

He's only been in the job a few weeks and he's making rigidly inflexible, profoundly incompetent, and miles out of her depth Theresa May look like a pillar of strength and stability in comparison!
The Ignorant Man's representative leader in the UK is having a slightly harder time of it than his counterpart in the US had.
This could be due to the 2 point lead in average IQ points the British have over the United States.
 
Recap of Boris Johnson's first day in parliament as Prime Minister:

○ First Prime Minister ever to lose their first parliamentary vote (328-301)
○ Loses control of the parliamentary order paper.
○ Roundly battered from all sides, with Ken Clarke, Jeremy Corbyn, and Ian Blackford of the SNP getting particularly hard hits in.
○ Scottish court presented with evidence that Johnson and Cummings were secretly plotting to shut down parliament as they lied to the public that they had no such plans.
○ A Tory MP gets up and crosses the chamber in the middle of Johnson's speech!
○ Johnson's pick as Leader of the Commons Jacob Rees-Mogg roundly condemned for his arrogant and contemptuous behaviour.
○ Apparently drunk Dominic Cummings yells a load of rattled gibberish at Jeremy Corbyn in a parliamentary corridor.
○ Johnson trying to call a snap election amidst the chaos, but highly unlikely to be able to deliver it unless he takes No Deal By Default off the table first.
○ Throws Ken Clarke, Philip Hammond (Tory Chancellor until a few weeks ago), Winston Churchill's grandson, and 18 others out of the Tory party!
○ Tory-DUP majority collapses from +1 to -43.

He's only been in the job a few weeks and he's making rigidly inflexible, profoundly incompetent, and miles out of her depth Theresa May look like a pillar of strength and stability in comparison!

Remind which party has a clear and decisive lead in the polls again? Here I'll even help you...


JRM was roundly condemned by people who already hate Mogg so is not a serious criticism. Lots of Brexiteers loved his defence!

As I said earlier, huge number of Conservatives support Boris' move to deselect the Brexit wreckers, it shows that he is serious and strong. It is correct to punish people who are opposing your government's flagship policy. Certainly, his deselection will gain more followers from the nascent Brexit Party. Quite the opposite to Theresa May, he is not dithering and making bold moves!

It's hilarious from the leftie media how much crying there is over Churchill's son being deselected. An MP of no great distinction living off his grandfather's legacy...thought the left opposed that kind of thing...
 
Is there a reasonable unbiased thing I can read somewhere on the current betrayal of democracy and circus?
 

Okay this seems like a reasonable unbiased breakdown.

So they want Borris to ask the EU for another extention.
Hopefully that fails, but what would really restore my faith in the EU would be if they then tell Borris to fsckoff amd do a hard Brexit anyway.
 
what would really restore my faith in the EU would be if they then tell Borris to fsckoff amd do a hard Brexit anyway.
aye, but they never will, the EU has proven time and again it is fearful of hard brexit, just a pity that nobody bothered to try and leverage that to date
 
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